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Title: Siamese System 2.5?
Post by: seanys on September 19, 2004, 03:50:50 PM
Hi all,

Does anyone know the status of Siamese System? Is it still available anywhere or is it basically abandonware?

I have v2.1 and recently got an ethernet card for my 1200 and am now wishing I'd bought v2.5.

Any help as to where I could source v2.5 would be appreciated.


Sean.
Title: Re: Siamese System 2.5?
Post by: Lemmink on September 19, 2004, 04:22:16 PM
Siamese is dead.
But I am also searching for a 2.5 copy for years, if you could point me to a dealer that hast still one in stock or someone is willing to sell it I will gladly take one.
Title: Re: Siamese System 2.5?
Post by: Holley on September 19, 2004, 07:21:04 PM
I saw the 2.5 one ebay the other day, didn't think anything of it!

The SCSI networking was better than ethernet BTW ;-)
Title: Re: Siamese System 2.5?
Post by: Darrin on September 19, 2004, 08:21:49 PM
I own a copy of v2.5.  I think it's one of the last releases as it doesn't need a hardware dongle to work.

I'm sorry to say that it's not for sale though.  It's a great piece of software (when you get it working) and really should have made a bigger impact in the Amiga market than it did.
Title: Re: Siamese System 2.5?
Post by: PaSha on September 20, 2004, 11:12:40 AM
Datakompaniet in Norway (www.amigashop.com) seem to still have it, but at the ridiculous price of approx 100 EUR...

I had it myself, but I never liked it, and it had issues with OS3.5/3.9
Good idea, but needs more work. Has been abandoned for some 4-5 years at least.

-Paul
Title: Re: Siamese System 2.5?
Post by: KennyR on September 20, 2004, 11:21:52 AM
I bought the Siamese System when it first came out, and all these years later I don't have many good memories of it. First, it seemed rather broken. Amiga96 the menu never worked properly and was hard to set up.

SiameseRTG looked nice until you realised that only really workbench, Visage (the image viewer), and a few other minor things can use it, because it's hardcoded to a patched CyberGraphX 2 library. Want to use 24 bit datatypes? Forget it. 15 bit games? No chance. They either crash or show wrong colours. And the whole thing broke totally under OS3.5 and above. It only works with OS3.0 or 3.1.

Then there was the file transfer thing that let you directly use files on the PC drive. While it was nice, it's not nearly as flexible as Samba. Lose Amiga multitasking for a moment, for instance, or go offline, and the thing died and wouldn't come back until you rebooted. And it didn't handle international characters either.

The only thing I really haven't found a better replacement for was the remote Windows MCI control and the ARexx ports. Those were pretty good, and worth running Siamese for alone. But 2.5 doesn't really make these much faster.

If you want 2.5 then go ahead, it's a nice enough improvement over 2.1. But I wouldn't pay through the nose for it, if I were you. It's not worth it.
Title: Re: Siamese System 2.5?
Post by: bloodline on September 20, 2004, 11:44:44 AM
I wonder if one could include some of the concepts from this system into UAE?
Title: Re: Siamese System 2.5?
Post by: adolescent on September 20, 2004, 05:06:24 PM
Siamese does work with OS3.9 (and 3.5).  I use the server, time sync, and a couple of other tools on my A1200 OS3.9BB2 system via Ethernet.  Perhaps the RTG is broken, but I find that fairly useless (the switcher card was much better).