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Title: Ever sold something and wish you didnt?
Post by: TheMagicM on September 17, 2004, 04:32:11 PM
The only thing ever was my Commodore 64C system.  Dual floppy drives, mps 802(or 3) printer, Avatex 1200 modem.  But it wasnt that..it was my shoebox full of software.. 200+ disks, along with some of my own code.  Sold it for a Amiga 500.  I dont regret the a500, just wish I could find the system/software.
Title: Re: Ever sold something and wish you didnt?
Post by: mikey2001 on September 17, 2004, 04:35:40 PM
I remember a few years back when I chucked away loads of early Amiga mags (all the ST Amiga Formats, plus a few others). Totally gutted, wish i had them all back now. :-(
Title: Re: Ever sold something and wish you didnt?
Post by: x56h34 on September 17, 2004, 04:36:38 PM
I was furious when my dad sold our ZX Spectrum 48k, somewhere around '85 or '86. I just couldn't believe it.
He said that he sold it because a "new" computer would be purchased sometime soon, so he only did it as an ugrade, so to say. Anyway, 6 months later we received a C64. :-)
It was a very fun machine for us, however I could never forgive my father for selling the speccy! :-)
Title: Re: Ever sold something and wish you didnt?
Post by: Vincent on September 17, 2004, 05:01:26 PM
I regretted selling my Speccy 48k years ago, but I had to to get the money for a +2 so it wasn't that bad.

I do regret selling all my Star Wars toys though (sold them in the late 80s early 90s before the resurgence happened).  Didn't have any of the boxes, but they were all in excellent nick despite having been played with constantly for about 10 years :-D

Then again, if I did still have them they'd be up in the loft making a nice home for spiders.

--edit--
I just bought another Speccy 48k a month back, ah the memories :-D
Title: Re: Ever sold something and wish you didnt?
Post by: Acill on September 17, 2004, 05:08:12 PM
My A3000 was a mistake to sell. Watching it get pulled apart and sold part by art on ebay was the worst thing I ever had to go through.
Title: Re: Ever sold something and wish you didnt?
Post by: x56h34 on September 17, 2004, 05:15:19 PM
@Acill:

I saved the manuals. :-)
Title: Re: Ever sold something and wish you didnt?
Post by: doctorq on September 17, 2004, 05:34:17 PM
Hmm, can't think of something I have regreted selling, but I have one thing I ever regreted buying, and that was the Elbox Mirage tower for A4k. I ordered it brandnew, and have only fitted the A4k mobo once. It has been pulled out once again, as the tower isn't worth anything IMHO.
Title: Re: Ever sold something and wish you didnt?
Post by: x56h34 on September 17, 2004, 05:55:23 PM
Mirage line of towers for A1200/A3000/A4000 quality wise is not much greater than standard PC cases. They are however the only choice. Well, at least as far as A3000 and A4000 go. For A1200, other companies are converting some very cool looking and quality ATX towers, with Mediator and G-rex compatibility.

I much more liked the old Power Tower line, than the new Mirage. It was more spacey, at least for the A4000.
Title: Re: Ever sold something and wish you didnt?
Post by: Brian on September 17, 2004, 05:56:05 PM
What i regret the most was when I had to sell my A4000 in MicroniK ISA tower with CS060 MK1 and CV64 back 5 years ago or so. Basicly I didn't have a roof over my head the next month if I didn't do something so did something drastic... sold the computer and invested the money in materials to restore a house.

If I didn't need the $ and it wasn't for the fact that I never used the machines and they took up too much space I would probably not have sold my 2 A2000, 2 A3000 and 2 A4000 but there's just so many machines that one can use at any given time. :-D
Title: Re: Ever sold something and wish you didnt?
Post by: Brian on September 17, 2004, 06:02:47 PM
@doctorq
The Mirage4000 tower is an ok tower but it is a bit cramped yes (it's a shoebox compared to the MicroniK bigtower).

I'll make my own converted ATX tower for my A4000 (a black ATX fulltower with window would match the black theme on the machine with black keyboarc, mouse and soon monitor also) so I can fit everything I want in it but it takes time and every measure need to be just right so it'll be when I have time to sit down a weekend and just do that.
Title: Re: Ever sold something and wish you didnt?
Post by: itix on September 17, 2004, 06:16:02 PM
Yes, I sold my C64 Load-It cassette deck. Now I've been looking for one but there are only overpriced non-working std decks :-x

Title: Re: Ever sold something and wish you didnt?
Post by: The_Editor on September 17, 2004, 06:19:30 PM
My Kawasaki Stroker


My Weslake Speedway bike

(http://hsteinkemper.bei.t-online.de/technik/assets/images/Weslake.JPG)

Sold em both for a pittance.   On reflection,  I shoulda just parked em in the shed and polished em from time to time.

I guess thats about the time I started to grow old !!
Title: Re: Ever sold something and wish you didnt?
Post by: Acill on September 17, 2004, 06:24:41 PM
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x56h34 wrote:
@Acill:

I saved the manuals. :-)


I still have an A3000+ so I am not to sad about it. Still sucked watching the original one I had get parted out. Its just in a stock case and I paid way to much for it. No Amber circuits in those, so I cant use it since I dont have a RGB monitor.
Title: Re: Ever sold something and wish you didnt?
Post by: x56h34 on September 17, 2004, 06:30:03 PM
Why don't you eBay the A3000+. Just imagine how much $$$ it could land. Did you by any chance buy it from SoftHut?

Do you use your A1200? It's a great system if you ever feel the need to return to the custom chipset feel.
Title: Re: Ever sold something and wish you didnt?
Post by: doctorq on September 17, 2004, 08:28:01 PM
@x56h34

I believe that it's possible to buy other A4k towers than the Mirage towers. I seem to remember having seen a black customized tower (customized for Mediator) for sale at an Amiga online store. I think that it's next to impossible to find a tower as crappy as the Mirage, and I many time been tempted to give it a kick or two.

I prefer constructing a new backplate for a nicer looking, and nicer build tower instead, just as Brian suggest. In fact, I'm looking for a cool tower at the moment so I can towerise my A4k, and use the Mediator board that came with the Mirage tower.
Title: Re: Ever sold something and wish you didnt?
Post by: orange on September 17, 2004, 08:33:59 PM
Never, I've still got my ZX Spectrum +3 128K FDD  :-)

Title: Re: Ever sold something and wish you didnt?
Post by: x56h34 on September 17, 2004, 08:36:10 PM
doctorq:

Ha, ha, ha. :-) Well, I have to agree, the Mirage 4000 is not very special, however if you go by the Elbox upgrade path, then it's suitable as everything fits in nicely, but considering how much it costs, then I would think that they should have done a better job on the design and spacing.
The Mirage 4000 internals easily get crowded, as cabling from SCSI and IDE controllers, this and that, clog up the space. :-( Also, the fact that there's actually only 2 usable 5.25" bays sucks.
Title: Re: Ever sold something and wish you didnt?
Post by: swift240 on September 17, 2004, 08:49:11 PM
Yeah I threw away a load of Commodore User magazines for the Commodore 64 about 9 years ago.
I truly regret it now.
So now I keep every thing..........  :-P
Title: Re: Ever sold something and wish you didnt?
Post by: angrybrit on September 17, 2004, 11:46:44 PM
I once sold my Tengen version of Tetris for a very low amount.

I would have made a good cash on eBay as I still have the box and everything else in very good RARE AND LIMITED condition. :bigcry:
Title: Re: Ever sold something and wish you didnt?
Post by: HopperJF on September 17, 2004, 11:55:46 PM
I don't like Spectrums, I prefer C64's from that generation of machines.
I regret selling my Amiga 600 though in 2000, it was my first Amiga. It was in like new condition other than the missing F4 key, it was great  :-)

Im having a lot of fun with an ST at the moment though. I had one but it broke in 2000 and went  into the scrap.
Even reliving memories from 4 years ago can be fun!
Title: Re: Ever sold something and wish you didnt?
Post by: JimS on September 18, 2004, 12:17:58 AM
I sold my Amiga 3000 and my Miracle Piano Teaching System... at the time, it was a choice between those or the rent. :-/ Still, I widh I had them back.  Same with some of my old electronics magazines. I had tons of those, but tossed them years ago. Fortunately, by the time I got tired of seeing the piles of Amiga magazines lying about, I had a document scanner with an autofeeder... now they're on CDs.
Title: Re: Ever sold something and wish you didnt?
Post by: Failure on September 18, 2004, 12:21:00 AM
Man, rent seems to send a lot of Amigas packing.

I had to sell my first A3000 a couple years ago to pay the rent.  :-(
Title: Re: Ever sold something and wish you didnt?
Post by: LocalH on September 18, 2004, 12:55:37 AM
I wish I hadn't sold my old C128 setup - I had somewhere between 500 and 700 disks, some with stuff that I haven't been able to find ANYWHERE on the net. For example, there was one 'demo' that started out with a black screen, played a tune by Ben Daglish that was from one of his music selectors, and then revealed a multicolor picture with bouncing lines in the vein of the countless screensavers with bouncing lines. I seem to remember that there was (I think) a bulldog in the lower left hand corner. I also think that the filename was "PICCY DEMO", although I could be wrong (I've found something called this, but I don't believe it was what I was looking for).

I'm seriously considering trying to track down my old disks. A longshot, for sure, but nonetheless I had SCADS of {bleep}.
Title: Re: Ever sold something and wish you didnt?
Post by: minator on September 18, 2004, 02:14:30 AM
I wish I hadn't sold my original A1000 but had to in order to get an A500+ (long time ago!) I eventualy got another so I'm not worried now.

I also wish I hadn't sold the Horner Pianet-T keyboard I had ...or the casio CZ 1000.  The Horner only made one sound but had a certain "life" to it which digital keyboards lack somehow, maybe I'll get another one day...

I may never use it but I'll take a lot to prise the MicroMoog out of my hands!
Title: Re: Ever sold something and wish you didnt?
Post by: FastRobPlus on September 18, 2004, 02:31:16 AM
This:

Anybody seen my (http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=5985)
Title: Re: Ever sold something and wish you didnt?
Post by: on September 18, 2004, 02:33:49 AM
While not computer related (I don't regret selling old computers), if I were to point at something I wish I'd never have sold, it would have to be my 1981 Suzuki GS-550T (http://www.bikez.com/bike/17642/index.jpg) (motorcycle).  Some guy showed up on the doorstep way back when I had an apartment, he had cash in hand, and I had been pressured since day one by friends and my then fiancee (now ex-wife) to sell it, so I gave in.

They might have been right.  Had I kept it, who knows if I would be alive today, but I still can't help but wish I had kept it.  

I'm sure Tigger (the aforementioned friend) will chime in and inform me how stupid it was for me to have a motorcycle in the first place, as he never let me live down the story behind it's purchase (I was test riding it and a kid ran across in front of me, making me lay it down in the parking lot before I could get my feet down).  Now, I couldn't afford one even if I had a desperate craving to buy one, so it -- like most of my dreams -- have to wait.

Wayne
Title: Re: Ever sold something and wish you didnt?
Post by: DanDude on September 18, 2004, 02:42:02 AM
Yes, my 1200 Infinitiv tower.  Unfortunately I needed the money to upgrade to the A4000T.  :-(
Title: Re: Ever sold something and wish you didnt?
Post by: Jeff on September 18, 2004, 06:08:00 AM
I know I have.  I had a wonderful collection of C= 64/128 stuff with modified 1750 and 1764's, several 1541, 1571, and even a few 1581's.

Later I moved to Amiga's.  I had a nice A1000 with a Spirit Technologies external RLL HD controller and an external X-Ram card.  I sold most of that stuff.

I have actually collected back most of the computer related things I regreted selling with the exeption of the early C= stuff.  I probably wouldn't ever use a 64 again anyway :-)  Since I really hate that feeling, I am pretty careful about what I buy anymore.  Chances are if I find it and I really want it, I'm probably not going to sell it unless I get really desperate.

I recently sold my house because it was just to hard to afford it by myself. I still have all of my Amiga's though :-D

Jeff
Title: Re: Ever sold something and wish you didnt?
Post by: Acill on September 18, 2004, 06:56:09 AM
Quote

x56h34 wrote:
Why don't you eBay the A3000+. Just imagine how much $$$ it could land. Did you by any chance buy it from SoftHut?

Do you use your A1200? It's a great system if you ever feel the need to return to the custom chipset feel.


Yup I got that one from Software Hut. and I never got the A1200. The deal fell through I guess. The seller never got back to me. The A3000+ is here to stay, I will never sell it.
Title: Re: Ever sold something and wish you didnt?
Post by: weirdami on September 18, 2004, 07:13:32 AM
@Vincent

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I regretted selling my Speccy 48k years ago, but I had to to get the money for a +2 so it wasn't that bad.


Wow! 48000 years ago? Talk about retro computing! :-D
Title: Re: Ever sold something and wish you didnt?
Post by: weirdami on September 18, 2004, 07:15:10 AM
@HopperJF

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It was in like new condition other than the missing F4 key


Good thing nobody ever needed an F-key on the Amiga. :-)
Title: Re: Ever sold something and wish you didnt?
Post by: Holley on September 18, 2004, 10:17:46 PM
I sold my battered A2000 and regretted it, but I've just picked up an equally battered A2000, so that makes up for it.  

Or it would do if I hadn't just blown it up!

Ho hum ...

A also regret selling my '73 Suzuki ST185 enduro racer, the '78 Kawasaki KT100 I learned to ride on, and my '85 Superdream 250.  But that was an age ago, and I have bigger and more powerful toys to keep me occupied :-D
Title: Re: Ever sold something and wish you didnt?
Post by: T3000 on September 20, 2004, 02:43:44 PM
Amiga related:
DKB MegaChip along with the A2000 I sold to DanDude some ...   geezz,  5 years ago or so.  Not easy finding one of those for my other A2000.

Non-Amiga related
1972 Triumph 750
1966 Chevy Impala SS and a 1966 Chevy Impala 4 door.

Mater of fact, I sold the Triumph because I was almost run over by a large dumptruck, and put the money into purchasing an VideoToaster/A2000/MegaChip...

The Chevys sold to pay rent...
Such is life.
Title: Re: Ever sold something and wish you didnt?
Post by: Holley on September 20, 2004, 08:42:39 PM
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The Chevys sold to pay rent...
Of course if you were a Mopar owner you'd have just moved into your car instead :-D

(just kidding, my daily nail is a GM machine, and it's great)
Title: Re: Ever sold something and wish you didnt?
Post by: odin on September 20, 2004, 08:52:13 PM
My CDTV, sold to fund a PSX, which I sold a few years later to  (partly) fund the purchase of a BlizzPPC :-).
Title: Re: Ever sold something and wish you didnt?
Post by: whabang on September 20, 2004, 09:07:46 PM
I've spent lots of cash on things that I've later sold, just because I really couldn't afford them. :-(
Title: Re: Ever sold something and wish you didnt?
Post by: Doppie1200 on September 20, 2004, 09:26:49 PM
My A600. Lucky I found another boxed second hand. Lost money on those deals  :-( But now I have an A600HD. The other was not :-)
Title: Re: Ever sold something and wish you didnt?
Post by: PMC on September 20, 2004, 10:01:30 PM
Yeah...

My 1991 Golf GTI 16v - 130 Mph and nearly 40 to the gallon.  Shame about the chronic unreliability and group 15 insurance, but one drive would put a smile on my face.

2003 Specialized Rockhopper - Although I've gone and bought a full suspension Spesh Enduro, I miss the response and climbing ability of a hardtail mountain bike.

Letting my ex keep a PC - I had several months worth of rare MP3s on the thing.  Rotten bint then went and wiped the lot...  Grr.

Melanie MacDonald's phone number.  Not actually sold, more misplaced.  I've been kicking myself ever since.  Doh!  
Title: Re: Ever sold something and wish you didnt?
Post by: Robert17 on September 20, 2004, 10:05:00 PM
A VW unreliable?! Sounds odd, I've got a '91 Polo GT and it's never let me down, not quite as fast as a golf but then it's smaller so it just feels like it  :-P

Robert
Title: Re: Ever sold something and wish you didnt?
Post by: Sparky on September 20, 2004, 10:25:44 PM
My Lotus Elise!   :-(
Title: Re: Ever sold something and wish you didnt?
Post by: Ilwrath on September 21, 2004, 01:37:56 AM
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The only thing ever was my Commodore 64C system. [...] But it wasnt that..it was my shoebox full of software.. 200+ disks, along with some of my own code. Sold it for a Amiga 500. I dont regret the a500, just wish I could find the system/software.


Almost exactly the same thing I did.  I've collected back most of the games and such that I had with my C64... But the BBS software.  My old customized ImageBBS, the CNet-12 pfiles I rewrote, the C= CG art I made, etc...  All gone.  

When I went to the Amiga 500, I sold the C64 games with the C64 computer.  No big deal...  

I kept all my own programming works and BBS archives for a few months...  Then I did something quite stupid...  I split  up my own project disks and gave them all away to a few BBS'ers who were still using the C64/128s.  "Here.  Feel free to use whatever you want to out of my old projects...."  It's all nowhere to be found, now, though.  :-(
Title: Re: Ever sold something and wish you didnt?
Post by: Doppie1200 on September 21, 2004, 07:27:28 AM

[very offtopic]
VW unreliable I hear? My 20 year old beetle still runs every day. I just wish it would make a little less noise. When you go faster than 80 km/h you'll need hearing protection.
[/very offtopic]

I know I'm going to regret selling the nice beetle so I'm not!
Title: Re: Ever sold something and wish you didnt?
Post by: Damion on September 21, 2004, 08:57:23 AM
@Wayne

Cool bike! The GS was an excellent machine. I don't have the resources now, but one of these days I would
love to pick up and possibly restore an old GS or CB.

Now I'm not one to pressure ya or anything, :-) but have you checked out the  Suzuki Bandit?  (http://www.bikez.com/bike/index.php?bike=4341) They're
kind of the modern iteration of those old 70's and early 80's "standards". (I recently picked up a
naked Bandit and LOVE it.) The  Kawi ZRX (http://www.bikez.com/bike/index.php?bike=20633) is another cool standard, perhaps a bit more "retro".
Since they're not the latest and greatest "tank-humpers", excellent used deals are everywhere.

Anyhow, just something to keep in mind in case ya find yourself with both cash and the itch at the same
time. And...if you're serious about not biking...stay away from the bike forums...they WILL corrupt your mind
badly...;-)

edit--Just read about your flight, and congratulations - that's really cool, must've been quite an experience. :pint:

@topic

The only thing I've regretted selling was my old comic book collection...but I used the money to
purchase my first Amiga, an A500. I still have the A500, along with my old C64, C128 and loads of
old drives/floppies/etc. I'm also not really one hang on to old computers, but I figure for the hassle
of getting $20 on ebay...I might as well keep them (for now). Parting out and selling my 1200 though,
and don't really feel sad about it...it's been sitting in my closet for ages now, and WinUAE pretty much
does everything it did, so I figure "what's the point?"
Title: Re: Ever sold something and wish you didnt?
Post by: PMC on September 21, 2004, 09:44:20 AM
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Robert17 wrote:
A VW unreliable?! Sounds odd, I've got a '91 Polo GT and it's never let me down, not quite as fast as a golf but then it's smaller so it just feels like it  :-P

Robert


[ You must login or register to view this Off-Topic! ]


Luckily I've kept all my Amigas so have few regrets there, with the exception of having sold my Squirrel SCSI interface.  Doh!
Title: Re: Ever sold something and wish you didnt?
Post by: Mikey_C on September 21, 2004, 11:02:33 AM
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PMC wrote:
My 1991 Golf GTI 16v - 130 Mph and nearly 40 to the gallon.  Shame about the chronic unreliability and group 15 insurance, but one drive would put a smile on my face.


A VW? Unreliable? I have a 1984 MK1 Golf Convertible 1.6. Most reliable thing I have ever owned. Lovely to drive. A driver's car, not really comfortable for long journeys, but good for thrashing round bends etc.

Lot's of fun.

Title: Re: Ever sold something and wish you didnt?
Post by: PMC on September 21, 2004, 01:44:14 PM
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Mikey_C wrote:

A VW? Unreliable? I have a 1984 MK1 Golf Convertible 1.6. Most reliable thing I have ever owned. Lovely to drive. A driver's car, not really comfortable for long journeys, but good for thrashing round bends etc.

Lot's of fun.


Well, it handled brilliantly.  You could lift off before entering a bend and then let the tail slide before catching it instinctively like you were Herr Schumacher all day long.  The extra 8 valves meant it behaved very much like a normal Golf GTI until you hit 4000rpm when it used to absolutely fly.  The driving position was the best I've ever encountered, the seats were excellent and the ergonomics were spot on.  Shame it went wrong so much!

Still, if I won the lottery tomorrow I'd have a custom built Mk2 Golf 16v in my garage (2 litre engine, Koni / Eibach suspension, BBS wheels).  I'd just make sure it was put together properly...
Title: Re: Ever sold something and wish you didnt?
Post by: Mikey_C on September 21, 2004, 02:25:07 PM
Forget that mate!

If I won the lottery, I'd get myself a rare Golf VR6 Convertible. They don't make 'em anymore. Apparently the pull away on those was such that the only car that could beat it away from the lights was a ferrari

Now that would be class. Used the same Golf Mk2 Convertible Shape. I think they finished on an M reg. They are very rare and very expensive, even second hand.

Title: Re: Ever sold something and wish you didnt?
Post by: HopperJF on September 21, 2004, 03:40:53 PM
Slightly off topic, but its good to see people respecting the Volkswagen Golf, one of the nicest cars!

I'll probably end up getting a Polo though for insurance purposes
Title: Re: Ever sold something and wish you didnt?
Post by: TheMagicM on September 21, 2004, 03:52:46 PM
not necessarily about computers..could be stuff in general.

p.s.  those cars are too slow for my blood.  if it aint puttin out 600+ hp, it aint worth driving! LOL :-o
Title: Re: Ever sold something and wish you didnt?
Post by: darksun9210 on September 21, 2004, 03:58:37 PM
yeah i ended up selling my A4000T,
CybPPC, CVPPC, CV64/3d, Digital Broadcaster32, sunrise AD516, hydra network card, vlab y/c, 4x Ultra Scsi9.1Gb's etc etc. to keep the debt collectors of my back to clear the loan on my car, that two months after i bought it, cost me my licence (speeding), so i couldn't even drive the damn thing that i had to sell up to pay for in the first place. argh!

just wasn't able to pony up the dough to pay for rent, food, etc, and take the loans company to court. b'stards.

i ended up selling the whole shebang for a third less than i paid for the digital broadcaster.

no wait hang on. i remember. my mum needed some cash at the time to pay for some plane tickets she'd orded, as she hadn't bin paid. i got suckered with the ol' "i get paid on friday" crap and gave her 400 (half the cash i got from the A4kt) quid for the flight... which i never saw again. even with my impending loans company legal action... GOD DAMN! i'm all p155ed off now.

also regret selling my 1988 1.3 A500. OS3.1, M-tec 28Mhz 020, 4Mb 32bit fast, nova IDE adapter, (helped the M-Tec sit over the megachip 2Mb chip ram), A570 CDrom, 120Mb internal 2.5" drive. man that was a sweet machine. even faster than my mates A1200's when they all upgraded from A500's ;)

oh btw, that car.. the loans all paid off. turns out they were cashing the cheques and not keeping records of them, so i hadn't defaulted, and there was no reason for them to get the debit collectors involved. anyway, its up for sale.

1992 Jaguar XJS, 4.0Ltr straight 6, 300+ break horse, british racing green with oatmeal doeskin leather and walnut interior and trim, not even broken 70,000 miles.
full service history, POA.
Title: Re: Ever sold something and wish you didnt?
Post by: PMC on September 21, 2004, 04:05:26 PM
@Mikey C

I'd still stick with a Mk2 16v.  People have fitted VR6 engines to the Mk2, but it loses it's handling balance in the process with all that weight over the front wheels.  It's terrific in a straight line, but needs seriously stiff suspension to keep it tamed.

You can tune the 16v unit to reliably produce in excess of 180Bhp.  Seeing as the stock VR6 lump produced 174Bhp in 2.8 litre guise and 192Bhp in 2.9 litre trim then the power to weight advantages aren't clear cut.  

As well as the Golf, I'd also have a Corrado VR6 in my garage.  My bro had one and it remains THE finest car I've ever driven.  It too seemed to suffer some niggling faults, but is a drivers car par excellence.  The only reason I went for an Alfa Romeo 156 V6 over the Corrado was because I couldn't find one that hand't been modified or crashed.

Title: Re: Ever sold something and wish you didnt?
Post by: Holley on September 21, 2004, 08:12:25 PM
@TheMagicM - 600+ hp? must be some serious Chevy to be putting out that kinda power! That said I'm quite happy with my 325hp on regular unleaded :-)

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the only car that could beat it away from the lights was a ferrari
ok, Golfs are nice little cars, but come on! Maybe they meant the only /new/ car that could beat it away from the lights ...
Title: Re: Ever sold something and wish you didnt?
Post by: TheMagicM on September 21, 2004, 09:10:55 PM
@holley:

505 BBC to be specific.. thats untuned btw.. I'll be getting a 598 BBC next year jul-aug-sept timeframe.

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Apparently the pull away on those was such that the only car that could beat it away from the lights was a ferrari



I'll take the challenge!  from both the ferrari and you. 1/4 mile put the $ on me.  LOL
Title: Re: Ever sold something and wish you didnt?
Post by: Holley on September 21, 2004, 09:31:52 PM
if it's a 505 you musta tuned it, otherwise why did they used to make such a big deal outta the 502/502 BBC crate motor?  I'll take on a stock VR6 in the wife's car, it's good for a mid to low 14 :-) (my lardy old Charger won't go that well, not without slicks anyway ... oh and all the work it needs to be roadworthy too :-D)
Title: Re: Ever sold something and wish you didnt?
Post by: TheMagicM on September 21, 2004, 09:47:15 PM
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if it's a 505 you musta tuned it, otherwise why did they used to make such a big deal outta the 502/502 BBC crate motor? I'll take on a stock VR6 in the wife's car, it's good for a mid to low 14  (my lardy old Charger won't go that well, not without slicks anyway ... oh and all the work it needs to be roadworthy too )


just cause its a 505 doesnt mean its tuned.  I put a dominator carb on it out of the box.  I ran a 11.35@121 without adjusting timing, carb or suspension and it was on ET street tires (soft compound).  Should be 11 teens/high 10's if I hook up better and adjust the carb.

Its not a crate motor from Chevy btw.   :-)   And it does run on 93 octane gas on the street.   http://www.BartonekDragRacing.com  go to Projects/Alex's 85 Camaro

PS.  Its nice to talk to a 'gear head' on a computer forum :) especially a Amiga forum!!
Title: Re: Ever sold something and wish you didnt?
Post by: Holley on September 21, 2004, 11:20:52 PM
Dunno about that, seems to be plenty of ex-bikers here :-D (even amongst the Spectrum owners, lol)

I was thinking of the 502ci crate Chevy used to do (still might for all I know, lol), there was a big thing about it making 502hp, with a warm cam, highish compression, big valves etc. Running a BB in an '80s F body is a good way to go quick, there's a couple here that run about the same mark with a mild 454 and spray.
Title: Re: Ever sold something and wish you didnt?
Post by: Cyberus on September 22, 2004, 01:40:41 AM
Heh, its funny its moved onto cars and bikes, cos when I first saw this thread, I thought "no, but I know something that I would regret selling" - my MkII Toyota Supra
Had it nearly 8 years, was my first car, although I've driven others while she's been in the garage :-P
Time to get it back on the road, as I can only take one car with me when I move at the end of next week... :-(
Title: Re: Ever sold something and wish you didnt?
Post by: TheMagicM on September 22, 2004, 02:25:15 AM
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I was thinking of the 502ci crate Chevy used to do (still might for all I know, lol), there was a big thing about it making 502hp, with a warm cam, highish compression, big valves etc. Running a BB in an '80s F body is a good way to go quick, there's a couple here that run about the same mark with a mild 454 and spray.


Chevy's 502 crate motor makes 502hp on mild compression (to me at least).. about 9.5:1.  That is a very streetable, pump gas motor..start it and drive it..no messing with anything, slap on a 850 Holley carb and you're off.  

I'm at 10.5:1, Dart Pro 1 325cc (stage 4 ported to 345cc) alum heads, Dart single plane intake (ported also), custom CompCams hyd. roller cam, 1050 dominator carb, 3550# with driver.  Next motor is a 598bb for me, same top half, except with a .685 or so hydr. roller cam and again, doin it on 93 octane gas.

Chevy's 572BB is a monster, but $13k is alot of cash also.hehe.

Very cool to talk about cars, even with overseas folks.. there is a guy overseas w/a 3rd gen Camaro, with a 'home built' twin turbo setup..Cool to read about.

Title: Re: Ever sold something and wish you didnt?
Post by: TjLaZer on September 22, 2004, 03:14:48 AM
Well being on topic here I would have to say my mint in box Commodore-Amiga 1000 computer system is my biggest regret.  It was in really great shape and came complete with the Amiga 1080 and Amiga 1010.  I sold it for $600 in 1988.
Title: Re: Ever sold something and wish you didnt?
Post by: kd7ota on September 22, 2004, 06:35:07 AM
@TheMagicM

Well, I know 0 about cars, but all I know is that there was this video with a Twin Turbo Grand National car, and it does about 1073HP....Heh, if you need the video for proof, i can send it to you sometime, let me know


And my friend has a 1991 Ford Taurus SHO, and apparently its pretty good for just stock racing against another stock.

Meh, but what do I know, what are you inputs of these cars?  :-D
Title: Re: Ever sold something and wish you didnt?
Post by: darksun9210 on September 22, 2004, 02:20:01 PM
heh, was gonna get an 82 Corvette with a blowered 454, but got the jag instead. got a 5.3ltr V12 in the garage for it that i was gonna take out to 8.4 or 9.1ltr with quad cam heads, but seriously need to sort out the suspension for the front end as the cars with 12's used to go through front bushes like petrol.

what can i say, i like lazy comfy cruisers...
Title: Re: Ever sold something and wish you didnt?
Post by: TheMagicM on September 22, 2004, 02:22:28 PM
kd70ta:
that GN sounds pretty mean w/1073hp!!  I've seen a vid of a twin turbo GN on a dyno putting out similiar numbers. very awesome car!!  dunno about that Taurus though..thought it was a family car.
Title: Re: Ever sold something and wish you didnt?
Post by: PMC on September 22, 2004, 02:54:21 PM
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darksun9210 wrote:
heh, was gonna get an 82 Corvette with a blowered 454, but got the jag instead. got a 5.3ltr V12 in the garage for it that i was gonna take out to 8.4 or 9.1ltr with quad cam heads, but seriously need to sort out the suspension for the front end as the cars with 12's used to go through front bushes like petrol.



A v12 Jag is going to sound awesome, especially when the block is taken out that far.  Sure, a Corvette actually sounds quite nice, but the Jag wins hands down on that score.

Don't know if you'd be interested in this, but a few years back Performance Car magazine turned up an original 7 litre Lister Jaguar XJ12 from the 70s.  The power output was said to be monstrous (especially in a then 25 year old exec saloon), but certainly brought a smile to the face of the lucky driver.

Jag bits are also used regularly in the custom car scene; the independant rear suspension uses lower wishbones and the drive shafts as the upper locating links.  The whole assembly is mounted on a subframe and thus can be fitted to a custom project.  Makes a better bet than a leaf sprung live axle IMHO...
Title: Fast VW's and awesome muscle cars
Post by: PMC on September 22, 2004, 02:58:13 PM
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TheMagicM wrote:
kd70ta:
dunno about that Taurus though..thought it was a family car.


Isn't that how the whole US muscle car thing started?  Take a standard saloon body and lob in some serious cubic inches.

The same recipe has stood the test of time, with such luminaries as the Lotus Cortina, Mini Cooper, Golf GTi, Sierra Cosworth and Subaru Impreza Turbo being popular here over the years.



Title: Re: Fast VW's and awesome muscle cars
Post by: Holley on September 22, 2004, 09:10:04 PM
All of those are more sportscars, the emphasis there being good handling rather than power.  Musclecars have stuff like extra springs in the right for a better launch, rather than coilovers and sway barrs ;-)

The GNs are nice, minor tweaks for the 13s easily :-) GNXs are even nicer!

MagicM - if you're running a 1050 with heads to match, that counts as tuned :-D I've got 8.5:1 compression, but big valves, uprated valvesprings, mild cam, 750 vac Holley, Performer intake, cheap headers and Flowmasters.

With that compression I can nearly take a whizz in the tank to refuel!

The quickest street legal car here runs a Twin Turbo BBC, fitted into an Audi 80 body for consistent 8.6s.  For street legal they have to complete a cruise that includes speed humps etc, and having seen it run it goes nice around town :-D

As for the Jag, good luck with the project, and I thought having 8 plugs was a pain, lol.  The Rodders here seems to be using Volvo back ends more and more, the simplicity and strength of a solid rear axle seems to appeal more than the 'bling' of IRS these days ... and serious cars would quite often bend/snap Jag halfshafts as they were never designed for 700hp and 33" slicks.
Title: Re: Ever sold something and wish you didnt?
Post by: kd7ota on September 22, 2004, 10:02:16 PM
The Taurus SHO was just a car that had a V6 engine made my Yamaha and the tranny made by Mazda.... But the car is just fast for what it is.  :-D

Some SHO site with somet stuff... :) (http://www.superhighoutput.com)
Title: Re: Fast VW's and awesome muscle cars
Post by: TheMagicM on September 22, 2004, 10:14:21 PM
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MagicM - if you're running a 1050 with heads to match, that counts as tuned


sorry thats not correct.  I can slap on a carb on any motor and that doesnt mean its tuned.. what I mean is by adjusting timing, jetting on the carb, suspension etc.  Or my car could be running real rich etc.  I know I can get more power out of it then what its running now.  :-)
Title: Re: Fast VW's and awesome muscle cars
Post by: Holley on September 22, 2004, 10:35:22 PM
ok, semantics gap here, generally (in brit American car circles) 'tuned' is referring to improved components over bone stock.

Jetting, timing, playing with your pressures etc would just be 'fine tuning' - on a post '73 car you've gotta get the mixture right on a big carb setup anyway, or it won't pass the emmisions test!
Title: Re: Fast VW's and awesome muscle cars
Post by: darksun9210 on September 28, 2004, 12:19:44 PM
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As for the Jag, good luck with the project, and I thought having 8 plugs was a pain, lol. The Rodders here seems to be using Volvo back ends more and more, the simplicity and strength of a solid rear axle seems to appeal more than the 'bling' of IRS these days ... and serious cars would quite often bend/snap Jag halfshafts as they were never designed for 700hp and 33" slicks.


thanks :) the XJS is really going to be an engine test bed / fun street car as the engine (finances over the course of my entire life permitting ;) ) is going to go into an XJ13 build (mid engine, getrag 6speed box rebuilt to handle the power, lemans thing) with totally updated guts (6pot brakes, door handles that are NOT pieces of wire etc etc.) but again, that is all pie in the sky stuff... but hey, i can dream.  :lol:
Title: Re: Fast VW's and awesome muscle cars
Post by: Holley on September 28, 2004, 05:10:26 PM
The stock IRS should be fine for a circuit racer as thats what it was designed for - if it's a lightweight body a stock motor should make it pretty quick anyway :-)

With that kinda stuff you need space and time more than anything - oh, what I could do if I only had a garage! (lottery ticket in hand :-D)
Title: Re: Fast VW's and awesome muscle cars
Post by: The_Editor on September 28, 2004, 09:44:37 PM
Holley Double pumpers ...Blah.

Gimme Webber 45 dcoe's
Title: Re: Fast VW's and awesome muscle cars
Post by: Holley on September 28, 2004, 11:41:08 PM
I couldn't afford a double-pumper (I run a vacuum secondaries one, cheaper to buy and cheaper on fuel:-D) or the cheapest Weber setup for big block Mopar (four of 'em on a custom inlet - it has been done).

Horses for courses I guess - it's hard to beat twin 40s on a well built 1275 Mini ;-)