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Amiga News and Community Announcements => Amiga News and Community Announcements => Amiga.org site announcements => Topic started by: on August 31, 2004, 06:08:15 PM
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Good morning ladies and gentlemen,
I know this will draw fire from the more liberal amongst you, but a line has been drawn in the sand where our policies are concerned.
This morning, I took action to remove a couple of users from the site based on both their open defiance of posted policies against software piracy, and constant complaints from other users about the harrassing nature of these two individuals.
I did not take these actions lightly, nor did I act rashly and without a lot of thought. I had in fact hoped -- indeed tried many times -- to give them the benefit of doubt to no avail.
Please understand that this is NOT censorship, so I really don't want to hear the same people with the typical cries of censorship every time a choice is made about the operation of this site. Censorship is about preventing the expression of ideas. This is not. This is about two specific people who either could not, or would not respect the rules set forth by the team here at Amiga.org. Rules which are in place specifically to keep this site going.
The team and I here at Amiga.org want our visitors to be comfortable and find using this site to be an enjoyable experience. To do that, occassionally difficult choices must be made, and the policies that we have posted are taken and held very seriously.
Without intending to make this a personal matter or attack, the two accounts in question are "Paul_Gadd" and "BoingBoss" (aka Doommaster, aka Amimaster, aka.....)
Doomy, our favorite troll of all time, is like a {bleep}roach who has a habit of never going away -- despite being told he's not welcomed several times -- so if anyone notices him back online using yet another account, please let me know as soon as possible so that I might adjust our software ban accordingly.
If either of these individuals wants to contact me via e-mail and explain why they are constantly in violation of our terms of service, I might be prone to reconsider.
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Thank you.
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Noted. Thanks, Wayne!
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Well thats my daily dose of chuckles down the pan!!
:-)
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Good riddance. I was generally amused at his nonsensical ramblings. But, when he moved onto ripping people off that's thats when it got un-funny...
I applaud your decision.
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Tho in a way I could enjoy Doomy sometimes, never had a problem with Paul_gadd, it seems like a good decision.
Doomy will be back offcourse, you can count on that..
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But, when he moved onto ripping people off that's thats when it got un-funny...
Good point well made there.. indeed.
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Does anyone have Doomys real e-mail address? I am waiting to receive an A2000 system from him, and have no other way of communicating, now that he's banned.
Thanks in advance.
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Hiya, I'm not criticising the decision, and I don't want to direct this question at Wayne, but can someone please point out where Doomy appears to have ripped people off, and also what Paul_Gadd did - I haven't seen him post in ages - I'm very curious.
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Most of the posts have already been removed or edited by the staff. There was a lengthy thread on Doomy's ebay situation earlier, but I don't know where that was. Paul had been active as of late, being rather rude and offensive, not to mention continually providing links to pirated software. Not cool. Not acceptable.
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These were both fair dismissals, having been in a similar situation I know it's not easy on Wayne to make the decision, but this was the right thing to do.
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While I can't comment on the situation with Paul Gadd, the whole thing with DoomMaster/BoingBoss ... well, good riddance to bad baggage.
When he was spouting nonsense like "Military grade CPU" and such tripe, he was funny. When he started ripping off users (see the Picasso II memory thread) and arrogantly taking a "so what!" attitude, he pretty much signed his own warrant.
Furthermore, I say "liberal shmiberal". It's your webpage, Wayne, nobody elses. You have the final say on who posts and who doesn't, and I for one am glad you pulled the trigger on that jerk. I'dve had the cops at his house after the whole "I'm going to bring down Amiga.org with DDOS attacks" nonsense from his first time around but I reckon you're a bit more patient and forgiving than I...
It is a shame those original DoomMaster threads are gone, as are the BoingBoss threads as you can't hold them up as an example of how NOT to behave here. I think we've all had a smeg-up or two (to borrow from the Brits.) of one kind or another 'round these parts. But I don't think any of us has ever flat out stated "I rip people off, so what." and "I'm gonna attack a.org if you don't do exactly what I want." even in jest.
If he comes back, Wayne, notify his ISP. Surely he can't be that hard to track down via IP address - although anonymizers are out there...
Oh, I sincerely wish you had all those old threads.
Well, at any rate, good call and I'm glad he's gone. I'd rather see every other thread on A.Org degenerate into a Pegasus-v-Aone flamewar than ever see a single (new) post by him again (almost).
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Amiga has software piracy? :-o
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FastRobPlus wrote:
Amiga has software piracy? :-o
:roflmao:
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B00tDisk wrote:
I'd rather see every other thread on A.Org degenerate into a Pegasus-v-Aone flamewar than ever see a single (new) post by him again (almost).
As my Mum often remarks, "Be careful what you wish for.." :lol:
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Finally, we've got to keep doomy out of here he is such an idiot if not a criminal.
Paul_gadd on the otherhand, violated piracy thingys, pretty bad, but most of the time I found him sound. But if you must break the rules you must pay.
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Oh dear, how sad, never mind!
:bigcry:
:laugh: :banana: :laughing:
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Software piracy on the Amiga? Give me a friggin break. The platform is almost 20 years old all. Yes it is still under the copyright laws but lets be realistic. I wish there was a site like Atari-Forum for the Amiga, where it is open to all kinds of discussion and software trading.
As far as Doomy is concerned, I have to admit he did try as of late to adapt but once in a while he did slip. Too bad, he did provide some interest to stuff on here...
I truely do hope he did not rip anyone off, if he did that is really messed up.
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bOiNgHeAd wrote:
Oh dear, how sad, never mind!
:bigcry:
:laugh: :banana: :laughing:
uh oh....
methinks Wayne gets rsi of continuously removing all those doomy accounts
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Yeah, this isn't a defense of Doomy, but I kinda liked the guy. Its a shame he had to go.
By the way, I noticed that a user had gone and voted 1/10 on all the recent images he had posted. THAT's childish too. I gave one of his images of an A500 tower 8, since I really liked it, but someone had decided that they didn't care about the image, they just wanted to blanket snub everything Doomy did. I find that a bit sad.
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DoomMaster is gone? Again? :) Thank GOD!
Anyway, should we all be worried Doomy is going to hack Amiga.org and destroy the site? Or was that threat just intended for last time he was banned?
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:banana:
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Does that mean I can use my Avatar again now that Doomy is not here to complain anymore?
(http://tinyurl.com/4ruat)
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TjLaZer wrote:
Software piracy on the Amiga? Give me a friggin break. The platform is almost 20 years old all. Yes it is still under the copyright laws but lets be realistic. I wish there was a site like Atari-Forum for the Amiga, where it is open to all kinds of discussion and software trading.
Sorry. I was being [d]un[/d]characteristically sarcastic again.
I can remember once when MichTron (sp?), publishers of some great early games like Tanglewood and Time Bandit offered a reward to anyone who reported to the police an Atari ST or Amiga software pirate. The story goes (I say story 'cause this was pre-WWW) that after getting thousands of letters from users saying that they tried reporting pirates to the FBI, police, phone company (BBSes), etc. with absolutely no luck, that MichTron decided the Atari ST and Amiga were unviable markets, and went into some other line of business. That's just one amongst a sea of similar stories. Now days, you need a hit game to recover your development costs. Back then, you needed a hit game to offset the 10:1 piracy ratio.
Obviously, piracy of old games is not "hurting Amiga" anymore, but back in the day, it did damage on a scale that nobody fully appreciated.
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@Cyberus:
Hehe, you are leeching pictures off my site. :-) I didn't know that that picture was still there. :lol: I created it ages ago.
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Let's not forget the South Park Doomy too. :-)
EDIT: Image removed.
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TjLaZer wrote:
Software piracy on the Amiga? Give me a friggin break. The platform is almost 20 years old all.
It doesn't matter what you feel, or how old the Amiga platform is.
The software is protected by law, meaning that if Amiga.org participates, or allows the spread of illegal software, we are legally liable and could be sued. That is not the stance that we want to take.
Wayne
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Word of warning to all. Please stop posting these images, in your signature or otherwise. I'd hate for one of your accounts to be accidentally deleted because one of us mistakenly thought you were Doomy back in one of his alter-ego accounts. He has, in the past, created multiple accounts long before he was banned in anticipation of being banned.
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Although I never had any run in with doommaster(lol), i idi have woth mr gadd when he first joined and refused point blank to change his avatar from that child molsting gary glitter(whos real name is paul_gadd), aabout 3 threads later he did bow to public pressure, but I have noticed him on serveral threads posting links to sights who offer illegal downloads, adn not just amiga ones
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x56h34 wrote:
Let's not forget the South Park Doomy too. :-)
I had no idea Doomy was Canadian! Blame Canada!
(image edited out at Wayne's request)
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@Cyberus
I was the one Doomy ripped off. I sent him $16.00 for a set of WB2.1 disks. I assumed
these would be originals. They were copies. I could have went to a pirate sight and
downloaded copies. I wanted an original set. When I confronted him about it he just
said I got what I paid for.
Ed King
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@Wayne
Thanks and good riddance.
P.S. I like your avatar, I am a cat person myself.
Ed King
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I recently posted two sites that sell originals, for that price, in the UK, so no, you didn't get what you paid for ;-)
As for Paul, as well as posting links to dodgy sites he put up a key code for a current commercial Amiga program, one that hasn't been dead for 20 years.
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Although I can understand the decision, its a bit sad that doomy is banned.. after all, everything he did (on this site) was writing some {bleep} and funny things to entertain (most of) us..
And in the summer when theres nothing going on in terms of news/releases/etc his stupid/funny posts were someway "refreshing" or "keeping the forums alive" (just like bbrv in the past, but he seems to be gone also)..
But in the end if he doesn't follow the rules its his own fault..
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was writing some {bleep} and funny things to entertain (most of) us..
Not sure about most of us... Depends on how many complaints Wayne got vs the amount of people replying (positivly) to his messages.. (10 at best I guess)
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Just wanted to say that I agree with both decisions, and to say thanks for this excellent site.
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Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
uh oh...
methinks Wayne gets rsi of continuously removing all those doomy accounts
What's your problem then ?
Do you think i'm some sort of "doomy account",
because of my "oh dear, how sad, never mind" thread ?
Anyone can see I'm glad that Doomy's gone, just like
the most of us here.
You're crazy!
Is this your location? :
Groningen, the Netherlands, The city that once will be the capital of the Frisian-Saxon empire
Ha-ha!! You must be joking!
:quickdraw:
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I hope this thread gets locked soon.
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No problemo here. I people violate the posting guidelines, despite warnings, then away with them!