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The "Not Quite Amiga but still computer related category" => Amiga Emulation => Topic started by: B00tDisk on August 30, 2004, 11:31:59 PM
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I can't seem to get HDTools to "see" the HD File I created in WinUAE. The volume shows up as a NDOS: icon on Workbench (OS 3.1), but it doesn't show up in HDTools for me to format.
What gives?
TIA!
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It shouldn't, you can just format it right off :-)
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It has been a LOOOOOOOONG while - what's the methodology of doing that (and thanks you in advance)!
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Click on the drive icon once to highlight it, hold the right-hand mouse button down, go to the Icon menu at the top of the creen, and choose Format Disk from there ;-)
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:oops:
BIZZARO AM NOT KNOWING HOW FORMAT HARD DRIVE
thanks...!
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No problemo, not something you do regularly if you can avoid it!
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Strangely,
i ve never bothered to create a HD partition with Winuae.
I just created a folder in XP for my os3.9 and dumped the cd into that (with the winuae files), called strangely `Workbench3.1`...
And i suppose that if i were to add a real amiga HD onto the machine i would use a real amiga to format it anyway...
What do ppl use a `winuae HD file` for anyway, is it faster?
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What do ppl use a `winuae HD file` for anyway, is it faster?
It used to be. I'm not sure it makes a lot of difference on reasonably modern systems, though.
The biggest benefit it offers is protection. Both from errant UAE activity, as well as errant user activity.
With a UAE HDFile, if UAE crashes in a write, it can't damage your host filesystem. The same has not always been said about using a directory as a UAE HD.
Also with a UAE HDFile, you can't accidently cause a sync error by accessing the UAE directory through your host OS while UAE is running.
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As for myself, "just for the hell of it" :)
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One file is nice and tidy :-) it runs that fast i would probably not be able to tell the difference between using a HDF and a folder on host OS.
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You can't have a file called 'aux' under PC OS's, and it won't keep all the file property bits either.
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@Holley
Hum,
i just tested by renaming a file to `aux` , and it works ok (??),
and i seem to have all six options available (archive, read, delete etc) in the filetypes (??)
i forgot to mention that it was xp pro and a fat32 FS on the partition with WINUAE...
And i`ve never had any problems with corrupt file, after winuae crashes (and there have been many during my experimentations)
perhaps it`s just my machine?
or the new beta2 winuae?
i should add that i have the convience of reading an amiga file with a PC application...
see, i just read a backup user-startup from my S: drawer
copy > NIL: SYS:S/RAM.info TO RAM:Disk.info ; added by MagicWB
run >nil: C:MagicWB-Demon 4,123,123,123 5,175,175,175 6,170,144,124 7,255,169,151 8,0,0,255 ; added by MagicWB
;BEGIN StopMenu
;assign Pixload: "workbench3.1:Starter/Pixload"
;END StopMenu
alias edus ed s:user-startup
alias edss ed s:startup-sequence
;BEGIN MUI
if exists "Workbench3.1:MUI"
assign MUI: "Workbench3.1:MUI"
if exists MUI:Libs
assign add LIBS: MUI:Libs
endif
if exists MUI:Locale
assign add LOCALE: MUI:Locale
endif
version >nil: exec.library 39
if not warn
if exists MUI:Docs
if exists HELP:dummy ; do not remove
endif ; this entry!
assign add HELP: MUI:Docs
endif
endif
endif
;END MUI
assign con: dismount
assign raw: dismount
Mount CON: from DEVS:KingCON-mountlist
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Holley wrote:
You can't have a file called 'aux' under PC OS's, and it won't keep all the file property bits either.
Sure you can (well, in NT anyhow):
C:\>attrib -s -h boot.ini
C:\>copy boot.ini \\.\c:\aux
1 file(s) copied.
C:\>type \\.\c:\aux
[boot loader]
timeout=3
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional"
/fastdetect
C:\>del \\.\c:\aux
C:\>attrib +s +h boot.ini
C:\>
Filesystem objects in Windows NT/2000/XP/2003 are just like everything else in Windows' global object hierarchy; however, if you reference special files using their short names (COM1, AUX, PRT, etc.), they'll be treated as special files. If you reference them using their global name (\\.\:\), they'll be treated as plain files or directories.
Even so, WinUAE now uses name mangling and a file database for each directory, so you won't ever see a file called "AUX"--you'll see WinUAE's translation of the file name. I think file attribute mapping has been improved as well.
Trev
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Moving right along, what's a good browser I can try for a bit on UAE? I downloaded Aweb but the Installer doesn't seem to work. Hm.
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Hum,
i would Unreservedly recommend Ibrowse...
I have tested Aweb and Voyager; in the distant past, Voyager was the bees knees, but unfortunately it hasn't improved (for me; so best to stick to the very old, and stable, versions), and trying to make a website compatible for it while retaining most of the features for other browsers is a nightmare...
Aweb on the other hand is free, but doesn't cut the ice.
i still have all three versions on my system but i can see no reason to ever switch from ibrowse while surfing most sites.
Link site here (http://www.ibrowse-dev.net/).
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ok, I guess they made changes there - if trying to copy AUX around you used to get file errors. Personally using shared folders has caused me grief several times in the past ...
As for web browsing, IBrowse is nice, in 1/2 hour chunks (the price is a bit steep for me). I like AWeb 3.5, it's free, still at beta stage, but mostly works (just have to hit reload sometimes). I havn't used Voyager yet.
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Holley wrote:
As for web browsing, IBrowse is nice, in 1/2 hour chunks (the price is a bit steep for me). I like AWeb 3.5, it's free, still at beta stage, but mostly works (just have to hit reload sometimes). I havn't used Voyager yet.
I've installed AWeb, but when I try to launch it I get an error message that says "Can't open gadgets/button.gadget". I've installed (or at least I think I've installed) ClassAct, so I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong.
Can't wait to try the browser, can you help me track down the problem here?
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AWeb is designed to run on OS3.5/3.9, it looks for Reaction fist, then Classact, so maybe it's not picking that up - does it say anything about that in the documentation?
(the PL version of AWeb 3.4 gave me similar errors when I didn't have Classact installed, ideally you shouldn't need it on 3.5/3.9 at all)
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Holley wrote:
AWeb is designed to run on OS3.5/3.9, it looks for Reaction fist, then Classact, so maybe it's not picking that up - does it say anything about that in the documentation?
(the PL version of AWeb 3.4 gave me similar errors when I didn't have Classact installed, ideally you shouldn't need it on 3.5/3.9 at all)
I think I have ClassAct installed. The file I d/led from Aminet seemed to bet the right one. I have to have Reaction, as well?
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Hum,
Have a look in Classes -> Gadgets-> BUTTON.GADGET
And see if it`s there!
(Also you can check the version number ,in it`s tooltypes, while your there)
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blobrana wrote:
Hum,
Have a look in Classes -> Gadgets-> BUTTON.GADGET
And see if it`s there!
(Also you can check the version number ,in it`s tooltypes, while your there)
It is not. No button.gadget anywhere to be found.
Now what?
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Reaction is built into OS 3.5 and 3.9 ... you don't need both, AWeb 3.5 just looks for one then t'other ...
I don't think your Classact installation worked, which file did you download? (note 'classaction' is a file manager, not the same thing).
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Holley wrote:
Reaction is built into OS 3.5 and 3.9 ... you don't need both, AWeb 3.5 just looks for one then t'other ...
I don't think your Classact installation worked, which file did you download? (note 'classaction' is a file manager, not the same thing).
It was, as I recall, "ClassAct2Demo.LHA" from aminet.
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hum,
I would just download some classes/gadgets to dump into that drawer"
Current_Classes.lha (http://www.finale-dev.com./archives/Current_Classes.lha) here!
[Check the version numbers and if you see a newer version just rename the old one and copy...]
BTW have you tried Ibrowse (http://www.ibrowse-dev.net/) yet? ;)
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blobrana wrote:
hum,
I would just download some classes/gadgets to dump into that drawer"
Current_Classes.lha (http://www.finale-dev.com./archives/Current_Classes.lha) here!
[Check the version numbers and if you see a newer version just rename the old one and copy...]
BTW have you tried Ibrowse (http://www.ibrowse-dev.net/) yet? ;)
Heh, that URL is as dead as a doornail, as is www.finale-dev.com ! :-?
No Ibrowse yet; if I can get Aweb working I'll go with that. Thus far it's lookin' pretty grim! (Now I'm starting to recall what drove me nuts (in a bad way) about the Amiga way back when..."Got this lib? Got that class? MUI installed?" AAAAAAARGH.)
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Hum,
oh well, just copy this directly into your winuae classes drawer then:
http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/blobrana/downloads/BUTTON.GADGET
(right click, save as `all files`, NOTtxt file...)
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This shows how handy it is to have OS 3.9 :-)
It's hard to get back into Amigas after a break, but having OS3.9 helps as it includes most of the 'standard' patches that accrued over the years.
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blobrana wrote:
Hum,
oh well, just copy this directly into your winuae classes drawer then:
http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/blobrana/downloads/BUTTON.GADGET
(right click, save as `all files`, txt file...)
Nope. Still returning the "can't open gadgets/button.gadget" error.
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Works here, what are you downloading it with?
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Whoops,
i forgot the NOT (txt file)...
works/downloads ok with me..
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Holley wrote:
Works here, what are you downloading it with?
Right-click "save as" in WinXP...
EDIT: Maybe the "save as txt file" gaffe was what got me. Tonight when I'm done boarding up the ol' hacienda, I'll give it a go, providing there's power. I loathe hurricanes...