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Title: Where's the MakeCD site?
Post by: alberonn on August 30, 2004, 04:27:56 AM
I was trying to get to the MakeCD site (http://makecd.core.de) and iBrowse came up with "Network Error: Connection Refused". Google had the page in it's cache at:

http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:w11HKfNZULQJ:makecd.core.de/+MakeCD+Amiga&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&strip=1

(This is the version without the pics, as all of the links to them are broken.)

I am planning on buying ths as soon as I can get the cash, but I wanted to make sure I had the newest version. I have v3.2c, and I was wanting to get the 10th Public Beta of 3.2d as well as the makecdromfs.module 45.10 so I can burn some disks for my Windoze-using friends.

I hope that the site is only down for a short time and not gone for good. But I also really need these two files:

MakeCD32d_public_beta_10.lha
makecdromfs_45_10.lha

Like I said, I'm not sure what version is in the box I plan on getting from Compuquik, so I wanted to get the current stuff. And I can work with the program with it's shareware limitations until I can afford to buy the full package.
Title: Re: Where's the MakeCD site?
Post by: BoingBoss on August 30, 2004, 08:30:26 AM
Hi alberonn,

Just use a PC to burn your "Amiga" CD-Rs   :-D
Title: Re: Where's the MakeCD site?
Post by: GadgetMaster on August 30, 2004, 09:44:11 AM
@BoingDross

If you can't help the guy just butt out Mr DoomMaster(AKA BoingBoss).
Title: Re: Where's the MakeCD site?
Post by: Paul_Gadd on August 30, 2004, 09:59:47 AM
Unlike Mr helpful above GadgetMaster, click MakeCD32d_public_beta_10.lha (http://www.aps.fr/files/MakeCD32d_public_beta_10.lha).
Title: Re: Where's the MakeCD site?
Post by: Holley on August 30, 2004, 02:45:04 PM
I think the boxed copies are probably all version 3.2, I have the TAO version and it works like a charm.

BTW their site was up when I last looked, about a month ago ...
Title: Re: Where's the MakeCD site?
Post by: DanDude on August 30, 2004, 03:21:14 PM
Hey, BoingBoss, that was really low.
Title: Re: Where's the MakeCD site?
Post by: BoingBoss on August 30, 2004, 04:10:08 PM
Hi GadgetMaster,

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If you can't help the guy just butt out


Actually, I did help him.   :-D
Title: Re: Where's the MakeCD site?
Post by: BoingBoss on August 30, 2004, 04:16:06 PM
Hi DanDude,

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Hey, BoingBoss, that was really low.


Why do you say that?   :-o

A PC does a much better job at burning "Amiga" CD-Rs then the Amiga does.  So that's why I suggested that he use a PC instead of an Amiga to burn CDs.  This is what I do and it works great.   :-)
Title: Re: Where's the MakeCD site?
Post by: KennyR on August 30, 2004, 04:19:04 PM
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Just use a PC to burn your "Amiga" CD-Rs


Waste of time. Windows doesn't even support Amiga protection bits properly, and is poor at ISO 9660 Level 2.

Anyway, MakeCD is actually better than Nero at burning CDs. I use it preferentially to my PC any day.
Title: Re: Where's the MakeCD site?
Post by: BoingBoss on August 30, 2004, 04:20:16 PM
Hi Paul_Gadd,

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Unlike Mr helpful above GadgetMaster


Yes, I was being very helpful.  Unlike you, I told him to use a PC instead of an Amiga for burning "Amiga" CD-Rs.  It works better that way.   :-D
Title: Re: Where's the MakeCD site?
Post by: BoingBoss on August 30, 2004, 04:28:50 PM
Hi KennyR,

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Waste of time. Windows doesn't even support Amiga protection bits properly, and is poor at ISO 9660 Level 2.


You are wrong about that.  I have never had any problems creating a true "Amiga" CD on my PC computer, you just have to know what you are doing.   :-D

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Anyway, MakeCD is actually better than Nero at burning CDs.


I have always told people that Nero sucks and that they should be using the Adaptec software instead.  Try using the Adaptec software under Windows 98 Second Edition and you will see for yourself that it blows the doors off the Amiga's MakeCD software.   :roll:
Title: Re: Where's the MakeCD site?
Post by: KennyR on August 30, 2004, 04:31:42 PM
You have NO IDEA of what you are doing!!!

Har!
Title: Re: Where's the MakeCD site?
Post by: BoingBoss on August 30, 2004, 04:45:41 PM
Hi KennyR,

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You have NO IDEA of what you are doing!!!


I sell Amiga CDs that I create on eBay.  I have never had one returned and my customers are very happy with them.  In fact, I have even had repeat customers who have bought more then one of my Amiga CDs.  So, actually, I do have an idea of what I am doing.  The Amiga CDs that I create and sell are the following:

Wings
SideWinder
F/A-18 Interceptor
King's Quest VI
Nucleus
Amiga Programs DMS & ADF Volume One

I also create Amiga CD32 CDs from my Master ISO files.

I will be selling more Amiga CDs soon.  I usually sell them around Christmas time.  They are really nice.  They have printed jewel case inserts and are shrink-wrapped to help protect them in shipping.  I also create CDs for the Atari ST computers.    :-D
Title: Re: Where's the MakeCD site?
Post by: Paul_Gadd on August 30, 2004, 04:46:09 PM
Come back when Amiga burning software gets out the 90s. MakeCD can not even handle old 90s PSX games with LibCrypt  :lol:.

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I told him to use a PC instead of an Amiga for burning "Amiga" CD-Rs. It works better that way


The guy wanted MakeCD plain and simple, if you can help him get it then great.

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Anyway, MakeCD is actually better than Nero at burning CDs


I have MakeCD so here goes:

How does one tell MakeCD to verify the files after burning?

Can you tell me how to do a full media check in MakeCD?

Got a few MPG files here, how do i make a SVCD in MakeCD?

Where is the built-in audio editor so i can edit/clean up songs before burning?

Where can i set MakeCD to auto connect to the net and download track names?

How do you tell MakeCD to rip a Audio CD to OGG files?

How do i burn a ISO in MakeCD?

etc etc.


Title: Re: Where's the MakeCD site?
Post by: BoingBoss on August 30, 2004, 05:01:52 PM
Hi Paul_Gadd,

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The guy wanted MakeCD plain and simple, if you can help him get it then great.


Yes, I can sell him a copy.  But I was trying to stir him away from it for his own good.   :-D
Title: Re: Where's the MakeCD site?
Post by: KennyR on August 30, 2004, 05:02:19 PM
Who the hell cares about burning PSX games? You can get them original for pennies these days.

DVD burning is the future. Amiga needs to concentrate on that, to get out of the 90s. Not in worthless PSX piracy...
Title: Re: Where's the MakeCD site?
Post by: rayt on August 30, 2004, 05:17:04 PM
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Come back when Amiga burning software gets out the 90s. MakeCD can not even handle old 90s PSX games with LibCrypt.


Afaik there is also a version of dvdrtools (http://kuddelone.gmxhome.de/dvdrtools/dvdrtools-main.lzx) for amigaos wich is a state of the art cd/dvd burning package that works with almost every scsi/ide burner.

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DVD burning is the future. Amiga needs to concentrate on that, to get out of the 90s.


Like I said above its already possible, but the main problem is of course the 2Gb file size limit in amigaos (dos.library). Don't know about Morphos, but IIRC OS4 still has this problem. I might be wrong, though (I hope so).
Title: Re: Where's the MakeCD site?
Post by: jeffimix on August 30, 2004, 05:25:47 PM
@Rayt

Not THAT much of a problem. Ever notice when DVD players kinda pause the movie for a second? That's because it's loading up a different 'chapter'. Those chapters are often as many if not many more than the number of 'scenes' you can skip to in the main menu. Very rarely find a full 2gig file.... alteast in my limited experience messing with DVDs here.
Title: Re: Where's the MakeCD site?
Post by: Holley on August 30, 2004, 05:38:18 PM
Morphos people are waiting for the new version of fryingpan to be released, which apparently gets over the 2Gb limit.

For burning ISO images under Make CD you need the DAO (Disk at Once) version, which can also be used to make images.

I have used Nero 5.5 to make Amiga CDs, they work ok, but as pointed out it misses some of the flags which can cause problems.  Obviously Nero 5.5 is of no help whatsoever when trying to burn a CD from an Amiga.

As for the other stuff, verification is the only thing really missing from MakeCD for most people (and for myself I'm quite capable of doing a few quick checks anyway, which is enough for me).

If your DVD player needs a disk recorded in SVCD format it must be very out of date - mine is over a year old and will read any MPeg file from any CD.  

Can't comment on copying Playstation CDs, as I've yet to see a Playstation game I wanted - obviously thats making illegal copies too, which is something I avoid anyway.

@Doomy - I hope you have expressed permission from the copywrite holders to be commercially reproducing their stuff, otherwise this is piracy.  Just because it's on Back2Roots doesn't mean you can bung it on a CD and /sell/ it! (see their acceptable use policy).
Title: Re: Where's the MakeCD site?
Post by: Piru on August 30, 2004, 05:50:06 PM
@DoomMaster

Bad bad pirate.
Title: Re: Where's the MakeCD site?
Post by: drHirudo on August 30, 2004, 06:07:09 PM
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I sell Amiga CDs that I create on eBay.  I have never had one returned and my customers are very happy with them.  In fact, I have even had repeat customers who have bought more then one of my Amiga CDs.  So, actually, I do have an idea of what I am doing.  The Amiga CDs that I create and sell are the following:

Wings
SideWinder
F/A-18 Interceptor
King's Quest VI
Nucleus
Amiga Programs DMS & ADF Volume One

I also create Amiga CD32 CDs from my Master ISO files.

I will be selling more Amiga CDs soon.  I usually sell them around Christmas time.  They are really nice.  They have printed jewel case inserts and are shrink-wrapped to help protect them in shipping.  I also create CDs for the Atari ST computers.    :-D

:-?

So you are one of these pirate nerds who makes money by selling software which he didn't have any right to do. This is criminal act and people like you should be sanctioned. What's your name on EBay, so you should be listed as a scammer/pirate and a common loser? :pissed:
Title: Re: Where's the MakeCD site?
Post by: Paul_Gadd on August 30, 2004, 06:26:01 PM
@Holley

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If your DVD player needs a disk recorded in SVCD format it must be very out of date - mine is over a year old and will read any MPeg file from any CD


Plays MPegs fine without authoring, but that has nothing to do with it. MakeCD is medicore and featureless compared to others, comparing Nero to MakeCD is just worthless as Nero does a hell of a lot more than MakeCD will ever do (does the authors even update that program anymore?).

No DVD support in 2004? says it all about wonderful MakeCD.

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Can't comment on copying Playstation CDs, as I've yet to see a Playstation game I wanted - obviously thats making illegal copies too, which is something I avoid anyway


It is called "Fair use".

Like a broken record you Amiga users bring piracy in to every conversation (must be some obsession or something). MakeCD can also be used to pirate cds  :-o but that seems to be acceptable.
Title: Re: Where's the MakeCD site?
Post by: Holley on August 30, 2004, 07:05:35 PM
Title: Re: Where's the MakeCD site?
Post by: Piru on August 30, 2004, 07:12:22 PM
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touchy about piracy

There are various levels of piracy. I consider someone giving a copy of a game to a friend less evil than someone massproducing illegal copies of games and selling them on EBay. Pirates like DoomMaster are the lowest scum.
Title: Re: Where's the MakeCD site?
Post by: KennyR on August 30, 2004, 07:13:17 PM
MakeCD is for burning CDs, nothing else. Being unable to burn DVDs is not lack of feature set any more than its inability of being able to play DivX. Or cleaning your car. Or bringing world peace.
Title: Re: Where's the MakeCD site?
Post by: BoingBoss on August 30, 2004, 07:30:05 PM
Many people are selling "Amiga CDs" on eBay.  Afterall, it is now considered to be "Abandoned-Ware" and nobody really cares about the "piracy issue".  The Amiga is now dead and that's that.  Do not get me wrong, I love the Amiga computer, but I am wise enough to know that it is a "dead" computer.  The PC won the computer war and is now the king.  As Duke Nukem would say "Hail to the king, baby".   :-D
Title: Re: Where's the MakeCD site?
Post by: lempkee on August 30, 2004, 08:18:40 PM
someone on here said Makecd cant do psx stuff, thats a bit weird...i mean.. did u actually check it out before you stated it?..

Paradogs (paradox to some) is/was the biggest psx crackers out there and do you know what? , everything they did was done on AMIGA with AMIGA sw! , they made the plugs to use in makecd etc.

anyway sure its many years ago and i couldnt care less as i know about it only because of one thing .. "FPSE" and the cracktro cd image they released.

as for DVD , i use OS4 for that (built in DVD-rw/DVDR etc) (and yes thats RECORDING) , and i m waiting for Fryingpan which is on its way with dvd support, makecd has planned DVD support but not much happened lately it seems.

Also u have DVDrTools which is a linux port thingy , its kinda allright wehen u get the hang of it..


as for scumm selling pirated {bleep} on ebay, "FUCK OFF!" , doommaster or not.

Amiga is DEAD?...ok..WHO is living in the past now? we AMIGA users or the people who belive amiga is DEAD?...

if i where a moderator on amiga.org i would have personally removed all comments made by doommaster every time he tried..

:-)

AMIGA RULEZ and im about to explode...WHOPPY..the day is saved.....NOT!


pps:SVCD and VCD i used to make in BURNIT as Makecd cant do it , or couldnt back then anyway (many years ago)
Title: Re: Where's the MakeCD site?
Post by: B00tDisk on August 30, 2004, 08:30:02 PM
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I have always told people that Nero sucks and that they should be using the Adaptec software instead.  Try using the Adaptec software under Windows 98 Second Edition...


Fuh.

This is proof positive that not only should nobody turn to you for Amiga advice, nobody should turn to you for PC advice, either.

Win98 SE.  

Jesus.
Title: Re: Where's the MakeCD site?
Post by: BoingBoss on August 30, 2004, 08:36:41 PM
Hi B00tDisk,

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Win98 SE.


Windows 98 Second Edition is THE best Windows for Home Use.

Windows 2000 and NT are THE best for business.

Windows XP Home and Professional Editions just plain SUCK!

My best friend uses Windows XP and he has had nothing but problems with it.  I on the other hand, continued to use Windows 98 Second Edition and I have NEVER had any problems.  My friend also uses the Nero software and now agrees with me that the Adaptec software is better.   :-)
Title: Re: Where's the MakeCD site?
Post by: Paul_Gadd on August 30, 2004, 08:47:03 PM
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someone on here said Makecd cant do psx stuff, thats a bit weird...i mean.. did u actually check it out before you stated it?..


Clearly i said it can not copy protected titles, i used to burn PSX games with MakeCD and every protected game needed the Image patched with either Amippf or PSXHacker (excellent tool) before burning, MakeCD chokes on simple stuff.

Burning software on the Amiga has a hell of a long way to go.

@BoingBoss

You keep saying Adaptec, so i assume you mean Adaptec not Roxio? Adaptec =  :-) Roxio =  :-(
Title: Re: Where's the MakeCD site?
Post by: B00tDisk on August 30, 2004, 09:42:28 PM
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BoingBoss wrote:
Hi B00tDisk,

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Win98 SE.


Windows 98 Second Edition is THE best Windows for Home Use.

Windows 2000 and NT are THE best for business.

Windows XP Home and Professional Editions just plain SUCK!

My best friend uses Windows XP and he has had nothing but problems with it.  I on the other hand, continued to use Windows 98 Second Edition and I have NEVER had any problems.  My friend also uses the Nero software and now agrees with me that the Adaptec software is better.   :-)


Wow.  Your Friend.  What a computing authority!  Stop the presses, fire John Dvorak, we've got a real authority here!  Your Friend!   :roll:

Do you want to know what "sucks"?  Unsupported OS's.  And 98SE is slated to be unsupported, if it isn't already.  So bye-bye, DOS-based, lousy-file-system enabled OS.  Ta-ta!  NT4 is as dead as NT3.51.

As to your opinions on XP, since you equally straddle being a troll and a fool, I'll just give it all the consideration it deserves.

NONE.
Title: Re: Where's the MakeCD site?
Post by: Holley on August 30, 2004, 09:42:43 PM
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Burning software on the Amiga has a hell of a long way to go.
Yeah, all the way to a new version of Fryingpan, lol.

ok, this is getting daft now, we're getting down to normal argumentative selective hearing, how did we get from 'where's the makeCD site gone' to arguing over weather this guy could give a flying rats behind about copy protected playstation games or what version of Windows is best [sic].

Ho hum ...
Title: Re: Where's the MakeCD site?
Post by: rayt on August 30, 2004, 09:49:38 PM
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Windows 98 Second Edition is THE best Windows for Home Use.

Windows 2000 and NT are THE best for business.


I switched from 98se to 2000 about a year ago and all I can say is that 2000 is a much better os in general, also for home use. We have 2004 and no one should use msdos anymore ;) But I agree that xp totally sucks.. win2000 is faster and less bloated than xp and much more stable and secure than 98.. its the only windoze version I would recommend, but who cares about windoze anyway..
Title: Re: Where's the MakeCD site?
Post by: BoingBoss on August 30, 2004, 10:01:57 PM
Hi B00tDisk,

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Wow. Your Friend. What a computing authority! Stop the presses, fire John Dvorak, we've got a real authority here! Your Friend!


Actually, my best friend is a "computing authority".  He has been working with computers for almost as long as I have.

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Do you want to know what "sucks"? Unsupported OS's. And 98SE is slated to be unsupported, if it isn't already.


Just because an OS is no longer supported does not mean that it is not a good OS.  Windows 98 Second Edition runs just fine on my Pentium 4 PC, so why should I use Windows XP?  I have both versions of Windows XP and have installed both.  I took each version back off my computer after using it for only one week and went back to Windows 98 Second Edition each time.

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So bye-bye, DOS-based, lousy-file-system enabled OS.


Most of the best games for the PC computer are DOS based games.  Most of todays modern games that run on Windows XP suck!

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As to your opinions on XP, since you equally straddle being a troll and a fool,


Are you attacking me personally?  Because if you are, try saying that crap to my face, punk!!!! :pissed:
Title: Re: Where's the MakeCD site?
Post by: Paul_Gadd on August 30, 2004, 10:23:21 PM
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Yeah, all the way to a new version of Fryingpan, lol.


Yeah right :lol:

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'where's the makeCD site gone' to arguing over weather this guy could give a flying rats behind about copy protected playstation games


If you read the thread, the PSX LibCrypt was only an example. hardcore Amiga users like to slag down Windows software at every available opportunity but they should take a long hard look at their antique featureless software before attacking other platforms.

Also i personally do not give a rats ass about MakeCD or FP, if they do what you need then thats great.

I will leave it there, as this thread has turned in to a Windows vs Windows battle.
 
Title: Re: Where's the MakeCD site?
Post by: B00tDisk on August 30, 2004, 10:56:03 PM
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Are you attacking me personally?  Because if you are, try saying that crap to my face, punk!!!! :pissed:


Pretty sweet from a guy WHO HAS THREATENED AMIGA.ORG WITH DDOS ATTACKS.

Doomy, you're an authority on two things: jack and {bleep}, and jack just left town.  Any time you pop up with "advice" on Windows OR on the Amiga, I'll be right behind you making sure nobody's fool enough to take the bait and fall for it - or for your "deals", for that matter.

Come get some.
Title: Re: Where's the MakeCD site?
Post by: lempkee on August 30, 2004, 11:10:38 PM
paul_gadd:

well copy protected or not, amiga crackers cracked PSX stuff with and ON amiga , which means you can burn em on your amiga if thats what you want.

oh and MAKECD can burn VCD and SVCD for ages now (i just got it confirmed) along with other tools as Vcdimager (or what the hell its called) .

Alot of people turn their back to amiga because it doesnt "bloat" every tool up with endless of functions the general people wont ever have the need for.

some people call it power, but i like to call it bloatware.

i simply dont want a burner tool that can make a lager :-)
but im sure alot of people would.



Title: Re: Where's the MakeCD site?
Post by: lempkee on August 30, 2004, 11:14:00 PM
@boingboss , cant you just turn away or just grow up?

i'm more and more sure for everyday you post here that you aint for real , youre just here to mess the crap out of us and i for one is getting really sick of it.

SCRAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Title: Re: Where's the MakeCD site?
Post by: Holley on August 30, 2004, 11:26:35 PM
Paul - actually I think you'll find it's more a case of not caring about Windows than trying to slag it off - I don't think you'll find any diehard Amiga user said that MakeCD was better than any up to date PC burning program in this thread, you just seem to have come up with that all on your own ...

What it is is a utility that fits on one DD floppy and does everything that /most/ people want, just like all the good Amiga utilities.

ok, I'm done too now, lol :-)
Title: Re: Where's the MakeCD site?
Post by: Brian Hoskins on August 31, 2004, 12:07:35 AM
I use MakeCD regularly on my Amiga and it copes well with anything that I ever want it to do, basically it does what it says on the tin and I think that's fair enough.

I think it's a little daft to compare the likes of MakeCD with modern Windows packages which tend to be fully functional, all singing all dancing CD, VCD, DVD, file conversion and databackup programs.  It would be fair to say that these kinds of software packages easily outperform MakeCD in terms of what they can do.

With regard to MakeCD's ability to write CDs, which is what this argument originally started over (somebody suggested using a PC as it was a better solution) I think this is inaccurate.  MakeCD is quite capable of burning a CD just as quickly and effectively as any software on the PC, the difference is that the PC's hardware is far faster than the Amiga hardware so therefore it typically takes much longer on a (classic) Amiga to burn a CD than on a PC.  That has nothing to do with MakeCD's performance.

I think MakeCD is well in need of a major update now which includes an overhaul of it's GUI and more support for the needs of the modern computer user which I would agree includes support for DVD, VCD, and all the other toys that go with it.  I understand that you can actually burn a VCD using a combination of MakeCD and a third party program specific to VCD creation, but really this kind of support needs to be seamless in order to satisfy the needs of the average user.

We're back to the time-old argument that in order to get development on a computer platform you need users (customers) and in order to get users you need development.

Brian
Title: Re: Where's the MakeCD site?
Post by: kd7ota on August 31, 2004, 12:30:15 AM
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BoingBoss wrote:

Windows 98 Second Edition is THE best Windows for Home Use.

Windows 2000 and NT are THE best for business.

Windows XP Home and Professional Editions just plain SUCK!

My best friend uses Windows XP and he has had nothing but problems with it.  I on the other hand, continued to use Windows 98 Second Edition and I have NEVER had any problems.  My friend also uses the Nero software and now agrees with me that the Adaptec software is better.   :-)


Well, all i can say is that Windows 98 SE for me slowly becomes unstable after awhile. No I dont randomly surf the net and have all sorts of adware or virsus, but it just stops working after a month or so.... So 98 is not great.

Windows 2000 did work out great for me, but was unsatisfied due to the fact that it kept bringing up the bluescreen and it couldn't be fixed.

Ahhh, the great Windows XP. Not a single single time it has ever crashed on me. Since a year ago i bought this motherboard and installed windows xp, this machine has been the most rock solid stable os i have ever used. No single lockup yet and runs faster then ever.

Adaptec software is crap in my personal opinion. Nero has to be the quickest and fastest software for burning. Burns my dreamcast games without a problem. Burns Music CDs and plays on all the CD players i have used it on, and even burned a data cd and works perefectly with the Amiga.

So if you think this Adaptec is all mighty great, keep it to yourself and dont mention it.

@everyone else

I dont want to be bashed if Windows XP sux  :-D  :-)

I was only posting my experience with XP so far, and all I got to say is its running very well.  :-)

Also, im some 18yr old kid telling Doomy whats up.  :-D

Also, if he comments 'you sound 18' or even younger then that, just point and laugh.  :-D  :lol:


**This post not to be taken personally.**
Title: Re: Where's the MakeCD site?
Post by: alberonn on August 31, 2004, 10:15:16 AM
Well, I got a private E-Mail from one of the guys who told me the site was back up. That was a big relief for me. Now I have the needed files. I plan on buying this sucker when I have the cash. I may have downloaded the newest version, but I need the key in the package to get rid of the small limitations the unregistered version has.

I was worried that these guys may have disappeared. That would of really sucked.

As to using a PeeCee to burn CD's, well I don't have one! In fact, I have some friends who want me to hunt for some files for thier PeeCee since they don't have Internet right now. Being able to burn a Joilet CD for them is a nice ability to have.

It also nice to have the software on hand to do periodic backups of my Amiga partitions as well. Not too helpful to try to do this with the Windoze system, even though I have an X-Surf II with the Samba drivers.
Title: Re: Where's the MakeCD site?
Post by: alberonn on August 31, 2004, 10:39:31 AM
Geeze, I ask if anyone knows what happened to the MakeCD site and I create a Windoze flame war? Not my idea of what would be in here, but hey, that's the joys of message boards. You'll never know how people will respond.

I am not really interested in Windows at all. Whenever I get an Intel box, I'm more interested in Mandrake Linux. I have seem some games that a friend has found that are also on the Windoze machine, but run and look really nice on his system. Mind you he has a fairly beefy setup.

And Mandrake does more then games I know, it was pretty easy, (as Linux goes) to install, it seems to run pretty fast and has some good tools that come with it that help in managing the system. I'd have a bit of a learning curve, but I like playing with and learning how to do stuff on my systems.

Would I dump My A4000 after getting that box? Well, in a word... No. I can easily network my system via the built-in router on my DSL modem. An Actiontec 1524 that Qwest sent me. (I was happy that I didn't have to buy a router when I went Broadband. Especially since I have a PS2 and a Gamecube with online games for both.)

If some of you guys think the Amiga is obsolete and trash, why the hell are you on Amiga message boards? You ain't gonna win any converts here. And flaming us is just going to convince us more that Windows users are a bunch of rabid sheep.
Title: Re: Where's the MakeCD site?
Post by: drHirudo on August 31, 2004, 11:03:05 AM
I have Amiga and PC sitting next to each other, but my CDWriter is on the Amiga, the bigger Hard Disk is on the Amiga and I use more the Amiga. I fryied lots of PC and Amiga CDs (also PSX CDs, plus some LiveCDs for the PC like the SyllableLiveCD and KnoppixMAME) and didn't have any problem. The post about using PC for Amiga CDs was totally irrelevant and shows the competence of the poster. In fact a friend had burned some CDs on PC and the come home wanting to burn them again (wasting blank CDs), because they were written not in order and his MP3 player had problems with the tracks order. So I rewrote in on the Amiga and everything was okay and he gave me the old CDs which he didn't need anymore. Yes, it's a little slower than it should be on up to date computer, on my Amiga, but considering it's 12 years old machine now, without a single hardware update, the CD and the HD are on same cable and the HD is on 5400RPM, I think it does the job perfect. Of course the Windows fans will try to correct me, but before any of them ask - I don't care if Nero/Adaptec/{Your favourite CD burning software here} does the work better. BTW I tried Nero and it crashed on the install, later I installed it but wasn't impressed and removed it.
Title: Re: Where's the MakeCD site?
Post by: Paul_Gadd on August 31, 2004, 11:22:46 AM
Yeah the thread has gone wacky  :lol:

Anyway glad you found MakeCD.
Title: Re: Where's the MakeCD site?
Post by: lempkee on August 31, 2004, 12:09:43 PM
alberon: its normal to flame like crazy when people like doommaster enters , its a shame but thats what happened to amiga.org and thats why i normally never visit it anymore.

Title: Re: Where's the MakeCD site?
Post by: Zadoc on August 31, 2004, 12:30:49 PM
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Anyway glad you found MakeCD, use

H7Ur(removed rest of pirated keyfile)

to register it as private user with DAO.


Moderators:

How many times is Paul Gadd going to get away with posting links to warez sites, spreading serialz, and enabling piracy here on Amiga.Org when it is clearly against Amiga.Org's posting policies???

Paul_Gadd:

We are all painfully aware of your stance on piracy, but for the sake of others, and Amiga.Org itself, if you're going to spread pirated serial numbers, warez, keyfiles, could you pick somewhere else aside from Amiga.Org to do it, please?
Title: Re: Where's the MakeCD site?
Post by: Paul_Gadd on August 31, 2004, 12:44:25 PM
Actually it was supposed to be a PM to that guy, yeah i f**ked up the reply without checking it.

Title: Re: Where's the MakeCD site?
Post by: on August 31, 2004, 12:53:09 PM
Paul,

You are hereby invited to visit other sites, as we are tired of constantly having to remind you of the policies here at Amiga.org.  

We really don't care how you feel about software piracy.  It is not allowed here.  "PM'ing software keys" or "f@#king up and posting it" are equally forbidden.  We've also had to continually edit your posts to remove insults and trolling, so we feel it would be best if you were to make your presence felt on another site as it's no longer wanted here.

Your account is hereby temporary suspended.
Title: Re: Where's the MakeCD site?
Post by: alberonn on September 01, 2004, 06:54:37 AM
Yeah, he PM'ed me the Keyfile, but I'll be buying the package as soon as I can anyway.

Our official stance is the ACUG doesn't support Piracy, which in our mind is copying any software that you can legally get otherwise.

MakeCD is still supported and buyable, therefore I'm paying for it, while some older stuff that you cannot register or find ANY other way to get is a different matter.

If we don't support the stuff it's gonna disappear and I don't like that idea myself.
Title: Re: Where's the MakeCD site?
Post by: Hyperspeed on September 01, 2004, 08:17:54 AM
I have MakeCD 3.2d Public Beta 10.

I bought MakeCD 3.2b from HiSoft for 50 UKP and what was I greeted
with inside?

"This code will last 1 month, please send off for the full one"

I was disgusted! I paid good money for a temporary, half
functioning registration code . To get the full code I would
have to spend more money and give all personal details to Angela
Schmidt the programmer.

When I buy software I expect it to come complete. I was very impressed
with TurboPrint 7.50 which has a rock-solid copy protection mechanism
and registration encoder for the floppy.

MakeCD is a very good package but up until Public Beta 10 was quite
annoying and tempremental.

In it's favour (and in reference to what has been mentioned earlier)
the package includes PD software BRIC which does CRC checks on the
files to make sure no bits have gone missing.

Also, you can obtain the Linux port of VCDGear on Aminet:
http://ftp.uni-paderborn.de/pub/aminet/disk/cdrom/VCDGear.lha

This will let you convert MPG (correct bitrate permitting) into
VideoCD for playing on CD32/Saturn/Playstation/DVD etc.

I think only MakeCD 3.2d Public Beta 10 supported VCDGear as it has an
input menu allowing the .BIN & .CUE ISO image format.

I love using MakeCD to burn MP3 `on the fly' to CDDA but I found it
can hang if you don't use the minimum burning settings, even on SCSI.

I once copied a Playstation disc as I had bought a commercial copy of
Command & Conquer:Red Alert-Retaliation and it only came with 1x disc.
Of course the game is supposed to come with 2x (Red & Blue - to allow
you to link both Playstations for 2-player skirmish). Copying the disc
gave me a feature I was entitled to under the original software's
package.

It copied well, and another legitimate use for copying Playstation CDs
is so you can replace the music tracks in WipEout for your very own!
This also worked well with MakeCD.

Everyone is entitled to back up software (including console games)
under law. A lot of people have experience of those black and blue
dye-based Playstation discs and how unreliable they are, especially
2nd hand ones covered with scratches.

What hasn't been mentioned is, since MakeCD is the Amiga's premier CD
mastering software, then you can expect it to support auto-booting of
CDTV and CD32 console discs. It supports their copyright files too.

Now, where is Angela's e-mail so I can get my full code.

:-D :-D :-D :-D
Title: Re: Where's the MakeCD site?
Post by: Holley on September 01, 2004, 07:33:01 PM
That was thorough :-D

I'd agree with that, making backups for your own use comes under 'fair use' of course.  Out of the 5 or so people I know still using playstations (ones), I think they have 500 games, and 10 originals between 'em though ;-)

Copying things that are unobtainable elsewhere is a bit of a grey area, thats more legal IP problems than anything else - thats more at the owner's discression, really.
Title: Re: Where's the MakeCD site?
Post by: SilvrDrgn on September 01, 2004, 08:15:57 PM
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Zadoc wrote:

Moderators:

How many times is Paul Gadd going to get away with posting links to warez sites, spreading serialz, and enabling piracy here on Amiga.Org when it is clearly against Amiga.Org's posting policies???

How many times do we have to say that we're not omnipotent??  How many times have we asked for the users' help???  Lots!  The site is busy, and from time to time we may miss things.  Thankfully, Wayne took care of this one.

Note to everyone:  If you see a violation, don't just complain about it.  Send us a message using the "Contact Us" link on the left side of the page.  If we all work together, we can make this a much better place.  Thank you!