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Title: The US is almost out of the top 10 energy consumers
Post by: T_Bone on August 29, 2004, 04:30:06 PM
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/ene_ele_con_cap&int=-1
Title: Re: The US is almost out of the top 10 energy consumers
Post by: KennyR on August 29, 2004, 04:44:58 PM
Electricity consumers, not energy consumers. That doesn't take any account of other forms of energy used, such as automotive, gas or oil heating, etc. I'm not even sure it takes industrial usage into account either - it doesn't say.

Its also important where this energy comes from. Norway is a high user but they even have generators that work on the warmth of sewage water, so they're very efficient.
Title: Re: The US is almost out of the top 10 energy consumers
Post by: T_Bone on August 29, 2004, 06:11:37 PM
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KennyR wrote:
Electricity consumers, not energy consumers.


Hey man, don't burst my bubble  :lol:
Title: Re: The US is almost out of the top 10 energy consumers
Post by: KennyR on August 29, 2004, 06:17:09 PM
Oh, and almost all of Iceland's power comes from geothermal vents. :-)
Title: Re: The US is almost out of the top 10 energy consumers
Post by: Speelgoedmannetje on August 29, 2004, 09:38:46 PM
Pity these figures don't show the avarage amount of electricity/energy used per citizen.
tis a bit weird to compare for instance the US (278 million citizens) with the Netherlands (16 million citizens) with these figures.
Title: Re: The US is almost out of the top 10 energy consumers
Post by: KennyR on August 29, 2004, 11:13:44 PM
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Pity these figures don't show the avarage amount of electricity/energy used per citizen.
tis a bit weird to compare for instance the US (278 million citizens) with the Netherlands (16 million citizens) with these figures.


Uh, they do. Per capita means "per head", i.e. per citizen. The actual number of citizens is immaterial.
Title: Re: The US is almost out of the top 10 energy consumers
Post by: Dan on August 29, 2004, 11:21:01 PM
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KennyR wrote:
Oh, and almost all of Iceland's power comes from geothermal vents. :-)

Its unfair, those guys gets to grow bananas in their greenhouses with free heat and I didn´t even get any apples this year.

Come on all americans, how do I sue Mother Earth?
Title: Re: The US is almost out of the top 10 energy consumers
Post by: KennyR on August 30, 2004, 12:12:05 AM
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Come on all americans, how do I sue Mother Earth?


Make lots of CO2 and claim you're not, but when it's proven you are say that your country is a natural sink and absorbs more CO2 than you release, and when science proves you wrong, just deny basic physics and say the greenhouse effect is junk science.
Title: Re: The US is almost out of the top 10 energy consumers
Post by: T_Bone on August 30, 2004, 05:08:11 AM
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Dan wrote:
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KennyR wrote:
Oh, and almost all of Iceland's power comes from geothermal vents. :-)

Its unfair, those guys gets to grow bananas in their greenhouses with free heat and I didn´t even get any apples this year.

Come on all americans, how do I sue Mother Earth?


Some Mass Tort lawyer will figure out a way! :lol:

(Anyone else bombarded with "Mesothelioma" Tort commercials?)

Title: Re: The US is almost out of the top 10 energy consumers
Post by: KennyR on August 30, 2004, 05:26:26 AM
The laws of physics are blatantly Unconstitutional!
Title: Re: The US is almost out of the top 10 energy consumers
Post by: Glaucus on August 30, 2004, 05:30:27 AM
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T_Bone wrote:
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KennyR wrote:
Electricity consumers, not energy consumers.


Hey man, don't burst my bubble  :lol:
heh, That'll teach ya to read articles a bit more closely before you post them here.  ;-)

But yeah, it doesn't surprise me that Iceland is top of that list, they have tons of cheap electricity thanks to their geothermic power plants (http://www.darvill.clara.net/altenerg/geothermal.htm). Canada also has cheap electricity thanks to it's hydro electric power plants (http://www.darvill.clara.net/altenerg/hydro.htm).

As for the low US ranking, I think I know why: Massive Blackout Cripples Northern U.S. (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,94772,00.html)  ;-)

  - Mike
Title: Re: The US is almost out of the top 10 energy consumers
Post by: T_Bone on August 30, 2004, 08:11:44 AM
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Glaucus wrote:
heh, That'll teach ya to read articles a bit more closely before you post them here.  ;-)


You think I didn't just cherry pick that graph? :lol: ;-)

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But yeah, it doesn't surprise me that Iceland is top of that list, they have tons of cheap electricity thanks to their geothermic power plants (http://www.darvill.clara.net/altenerg/geothermal.htm). Canada also has cheap electricity thanks to it's hydro electric power plants (http://www.darvill.clara.net/altenerg/hydro.htm).


Following precident, we use that much gas because it's cheap. :-D

Well, probably not. An increase in gas prices usually just makes me complain alot, even if the amount I spend a week only changes a few dollars. It's wierd how we complain so much about gas prices, but if the gas price remained the same and the money left our pockets for something else unrelated we wouldn't even notice.
Title: Re: The US is almost out of the top 10 energy consumers
Post by: whabang on August 30, 2004, 09:04:05 AM
NOT FAIR! :-D
Norway has just as much enery-demanding industries as Sweden. Their population is just half that of Sweden's, though! :-P

I'm not even going to discuss Iceland. They can afford to light up wasteland, as if it was Las Vegas, if they want to. Too bad that it's too far out in the Atlantic to be able to export all that electricity.
Title: Re: The US is almost out of the top 10 energy consumers
Post by: Speelgoedmannetje on August 30, 2004, 11:53:51 AM
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KennyR wrote:
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Pity these figures don't show the avarage amount of electricity/energy used per citizen.
tis a bit weird to compare for instance the US (278 million citizens) with the Netherlands (16 million citizens) with these figures.


Uh, they do. Per capita means "per head", i.e. per citizen. The actual number of citizens is immaterial.
okay, sorry, my fault :oops: