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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: jj on August 20, 2004, 12:30:52 PM
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Hi just a personal curosity thing.
How many peeps who post on this site own a ppc accelerator
card for their classic miggies.
Can people stay on topic and not post " I had one", or I "want one", just after figures off boards owned
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I've got a CyberstormPPC 68060/50MHz,604e/200MHz in my A3000 desktop. I bought it maybe six years ago, along with a CybervisionPPC gfx card. No problems with it whatsoever, best h/w I think I've ever bought, especially with the UltraSCSI3 DMA controller built-in. I was worried about heat even though it was designed to fit the standard A3000 d/t case. Luckily, I had previously cut a 2 inch square hole in the A3000 drive bay on the right side when I had a C= A3640 card w/ large heatsink. This worked out well to put a large fan over the hole for extra cooling of the cpus, simms and permedia card.
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Blizzard PPC @ 240Mhz, mit 060 @ 50Mhz and SCSI
Bvision
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I own 2, though one is a back up and I will probably sell it.
Here's the equiped PPC machine specs:
Amiga 4000D (in self made monster full tower)
CyberstormPPC 233/060 128MB
KS3.1, Buster 11, 16MB onboard
Prometheus w/Voodoo 3 3000 and RTL8029AS nic
Caweasel S-Class (w/ 5&1/4 drive and HD drive)
KickFlashOS4, Delfina Flipper, Algor-USB
9.1GB, 46GB UWSCSI + 24x8x4 SCSI CDRW
OS3.9, yadda yadda yadda, boradband connection
experimental modification, 50% speedup
This is the fastest Classic Amiga on the planet, I get 40+ FPS in Quake 2:-) Gotta the the classic:-)
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Blizzard PPC @ 240Mhz, with 040 @ 25Mhz + 32Meg Ram
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a csPPC here, of the phase5 build, luckily. I had to loan the money for it as well, so that's only fair :)
Sincerely,
-Kenneth Straarup.
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I have an A4000 Desktop with CyberstormPPC 604e/200 060/50 and 128MB ram and a 4,3GB and a 6x cdrw connected to the scsi controller running Os3.9 waiting for Os4.. It also has a Mediator4000Di with Voodoo3 and Realtek8029 Ethernet and a spider usb card (though I never used it yet)..
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Blizzard PPC @ 240 MHz + 060/50 + SCSI
Ulf
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-Original Amiga Technologies A4000T with CyberstormPPC 604e/233 + 060/50, 128MB and 16MB in the motherboard
-2 UWSCSI 9GB drives, 1 Plextor40x scsi, 1 Yamaha 16x10x40 scsi
-Prometheus + Voodoo3 + RTL8029
-Algor USB
-PowerFlyer Z3
-Picasso4 with Concierto
-Delphina Lite (RIP, but I hope to resurrect it soon)
It runs quite well, I hope OS4 & MOS are released soon for CS-PPC :-)
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CSPPC@233/060@50 in A4000T/RBM,Voodoo3/3000 etc.
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Hi as I started this thread better post my specs I suppsoe
A1200T, 3.1 roms rev 1A mobo
Powerflyer gold, 20 GIG HDD, 24x4x4 HP CDRW
Blizzard (phase 5) 603e/175,040/25
96Mb RAM
Z4 busboard
Hypercom 3I
Octagon scsi card
Bvison(permida2)(phase 5)
Cybervision 64/3d (phase 5)
Phillips 1024 monitor for native display, reysys thingy for bvision
Running os 3.9 BB2
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You have a BVision AND a CVision?!
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Hi Cyberus
yes it is possible :-)
Just installed my CVPPC along the CV64 with 1 monitor.
CV64 with its passthrough is fantastic . . .pity for the 604e still not working :-(
Ciao
BTW- CSPPC233-060 (P5) with 64MB-- CVPPC and CV64 under CGX 4.3
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My PPC equipped classic Amiga:
Amiga 4000 in Power Tower Mk II (E/Box tower)
CyberstormPPC 200Mhz 604/50Mhz 68060
128Mb Fast RAM
Repulse soundcard
Algor USB
PowerFlyer 4000 Gold (FastATA) w/40Gb IDE HD
Mediator 4000
Voodoo 3 3000
WinTV Primio FM TV card
10/100 PCI NIC
Running OS3.9+WarpOS, and OS4.0
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Framiga,
One last try about the 604e (this just crossed my mind).
Turn on your Amiga and quickly try to run a PPC program and see if it works. Make sure that the accelerator itself hasn't been used for a while and is completely cool.
It could be that your PPC chip gets overheated pretty fast and needs some extra good cooling. This is of course a long-shot guess, but it's worth a try. I've seen PPC cards do this (e.g. the provided heatsink and fan are simply not enough, as there are revisions of 603e and 604e chips that just get way too hot after minutes of usage, or less).
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I have one:
Blizzard PPC 040/25MHz + 603e/200MHz & BVision
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Cyberus wrote:
Blizzard PPC @ 240Mhz, mit 060 @ 50Mhz and SCSI
Bvision
Snap! (apart from the bit of German, of course!)
Doesn't get used anymore, though - my whole miggy set up is being sadly neglected :-(
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Hi x56h34
thanks for the suggestion but . . . already tryed :-(
i.e now i've installed PowerUP (for testings)
68060.library v46.7 103636
ppcdiss.library v0.49 61820
ppc.library v46.31 162700
The first app that i try to launch is ShowPPC (just turning the system ON)
I get the message (after 5 seconds):
"Error- I need ppc.library 44+ . . Oh no!"
SnoopDos logging started on Venerdì, 20-Ago-04 at 15:31:32
Count Process Name Action Target Name Options Res.
----- ------------ ------ ----------- ------- ----
9 ShowPPC OpenLib mathieeedoubtrans.library Ver 37 OK
10 ShowPPC OpenLib mathieeedoubbas.library Ver 45 OK
11 ShowPPC OpenLib utility.library Ver 37 OK
12 ShowPPC OpenLib mathieeedoubbas.library Ver 37 OK
/13 ShowPPC Open CON://///AUTO/CLOSE Read
14 CON OpenLib intuition.library Ver 0 OK
15 CON OpenLib utility.library Ver 0 OK
\13 ShowPPC Open CON://///AUTO/CLOSE Read OK
16 ShowPPC ChangeDir AmigaOS:C
17 ShowPPC OpenLib locale.library Ver 38 OK
18 ShowPPC OpenLib iffparse.library Ver 37 OK
19 ShowPPC Open PROGDIR:Catalogs/italiano/s Read Fail
20 ShowPPC OpenLib iffparse.library Ver 37 OK
21 ShowPPC Open LOCALE:Catalogs/italiano/sh Read Fail
22 ShowPPC OpenLib cybergraphics.library Ver 40 OK
23 ShowPPC OpenLib graphics.library Ver 39 OK
24 ShowPPC OpenLib gadtools.library Ver 39 OK
25 ShowPPC OpenLib intuition.library Ver 39 OK
26 ShowPPC OpenLib asl.library Ver 37 OK
27 ShowPPC OpenLib reqtools.library Ver 38 OK
28 ShowPPC OpenLib diskfont.library Ver 39 OK
29 ShowPPC OpenLib workbench.library Ver 39 OK
30 ShowPPC OpenLib icon.library Ver 39 OK
31 ShowPPC OpenLib gtlayout.library Ver 41 OK
32 ShowPPC OpenLib intuition.library Ver 37 OK
33 ShowPPC OpenLib graphics.library Ver 37 OK
34 ShowPPC OpenLib utility.library Ver 37 OK
35 ShowPPC OpenLib gadtools.library Ver 37 OK
36 ShowPPC OpenLib keymap.library Ver 37 OK
37 ShowPPC OpenLib layers.library Ver 37 OK
38 ShowPPC OpenLib locale.library Ver 37 OK
39 ShowPPC OpenLib xpkmaster.library Ver 4 OK
/40 ShowPPC OpenLib ppc.library Ver 44
41 ramlib Load LIBS:ppc.library OK
42 ramlib OpenLib intuition.library Ver 0 OK
43 ramlib OpenLib utility.library Ver 0 OK
44 ramlib OpenLib graphics.library Ver 0 OK
45 ramlib OpenLib 68060.library Ver 44 OK
46 ramlib OpenRes card.resource Fail
47 ramlib OpenLib expansion.library Ver 0 OK
48 ramlib OpenRes card.resource Fail
49 ramlib OpenLib expansion.library Ver 0 OK
50 ramlib OpenDev timer.device Unit 0 OK
51 ramlib OpenDev timer.device Unit 0 OK
52 ramlib OpenDev timer.device Unit 0 OK
53 ramlib OpenDev timer.device Unit 0 OK
54 ramlib OpenDev timer.device Unit 0 OK
55 ramlib OpenDev timer.device Unit 0 OK
56 ramlib OpenDev timer.device Unit 0 OK
57 ramlib OpenDev timer.device Unit 0 OK
58 ramlib OpenDev timer.device Unit 0 OK
59 ramlib OpenDev timer.device Unit 0 OK
60 ramlib OpenDev timer.device Unit 0 OK
61 ramlib OpenDev timer.device Unit 0 OK
62 ramlib OpenDev timer.device Unit 0 OK
63 ramlib OpenDev timer.device Unit 0 OK
64 ramlib OpenDev timer.device Unit 0 OK
65 ramlib OpenDev timer.device Unit 0 OK
66 ramlib OpenDev timer.device Unit 0 OK
67 ramlib OpenDev timer.device Unit 0 OK
68 ramlib OpenDev timer.device Unit 0 OK
69 ramlib OpenDev timer.device Unit 0 OK
70 ramlib OpenDev timer.device Unit 0 OK
71 ramlib OpenDev timer.device Unit 0 OK
72 ramlib OpenDev timer.device Unit 0 OK
73 ramlib OpenDev timer.device Unit 0 OK
74 ramlib OpenDev timer.device Unit 0 OK
75 ramlib OpenDev timer.device Unit 0 OK
76 ramlib OpenDev timer.device Unit 0 OK
77 ramlib OpenDev timer.device Unit 0 OK
78 ramlib OpenDev timer.device Unit 0 OK
79 ramlib OpenDev timer.device Unit 0 OK
80 ramlib OpenDev timer.device Unit 0 OK
81 ramlib OpenDev timer.device Unit 0 OK
82 ramlib OpenDev timer.device Unit 0 OK
\40 ShowPPC OpenLib ppc.library Ver 44 Fail
83 ShowPPC OpenLib iffparse.library Ver 37 OK
84 ShowPPC Open PROGDIR:Catalogs/italiano/r Read Fail
85 ShowPPC OpenLib iffparse.library Ver 37 OK
86 ShowPPC Open LOCALE:Catalogs/italiano/re Read Fail
87 ShowPPC ChangeDir SYS:
Cheers :-)
EDIT- otherwise, if i delete the ppc.library, the error message, shows up immediatly.(without the 5 secs delay)
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Chunder wrote:
Cyberus wrote:
Blizzard PPC @ 240Mhz, mit 060 @ 50Mhz and SCSI
Bvision
Snap! (apart from the bit of German, of course!)
Doesn't get used anymore, though - my whole miggy set up is being sadly neglected :-(
I was wondering if anyone would notice... :-)
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SysSpeed can test the speed of you PPC chip. You can try and run that test and see on which aspect it will fail, and that could potentially give away what part of the 604e is troublesome.
There's not much you can do if it is indeed broken. :-( Either send it to Amiga.fr, or DCE, and add another card to Dellert's ever growing collection of PPC cards. ;-)
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@JJ:
I have a CyberStormPPC with 060@50MHz and 604e@200MHz plus a CyberVisionPPC for it. Unfortunately the CyberStormPPC is on repair for a flaky 68060 socket right now :(.
/Patrik
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@ x56h34
SysSpeed doesnt recognize the 604e at all.
BTW SysSpeed's PPC speed test, works only with WarPOS installed.
Already written to Hyperion 3-4 days ago . . . no reply yet (maybe holidays)
Amiga.fr is the only option ATM
Cheers
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Hi! I own a Phase5 CyberStormPPC 604e@180/060@50 (the slowest PPC incarnation in CS range I believe.)
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Is there not an 040 version? That'd be the slowest....
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@Framiga:
Have you tried using the card in a different Amiga? Perhaps you messed something up in your SYS: partition and now the card is acting up.
Try this for a quick test.
Get a WB3.1 boot floppy and clear out all unnecessary things from it so that you could have space to put the following stuff on it.
Install 68040.library (dummy) and 68060.library to LIBS:
Install the WarpUP libraries to LIBS:
Get UNLZX (WarpUP version) from Aminet and include it on the floppy.
Put a small LZX archive somewhere on the floppy as well.
Try to unarchive the LZX archive with UNLZX and see if it works.
If it does, your PPC cpu is fine.
This is a useful way of testing your PPC cpu, as the system is very simple (e.g just the WB3.1 boot disk), and could maybe indicate that your OS3.9 setup or whatever you originally use with CSPPC is actually bad.
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OK thanks . . .i'll try :-)
Cheers
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Cyberstom MKIII Motorola 68060 @ 50MHz / PowerPC 603e @ 233MHz inside my A4000T with Cybergraphix PPC videocard attached and using SCSI3 port to operate my 3 very fast spinning SCSI (SCA) drives.
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Is there not an 040 version? That'd be the slowest....
Yes, and also don't forget the early/developer versions that only had a 150Mhz PPC..
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CSPPC 200/060 CVPPC in A4000T
BPPC 266/060 @ 60 G-Rex1200 in A1200T
MKII 060 with PowerUP module 603 @ 150 MHZ in A4000D
BPPC 210/060 spare (no I`m not selling it)
CSPPC 180/040 @ 33 G-Rex A4000D
CSPPC 233/060 probably broken PPC
CSPPC 200/060 totaly dead card :-(
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BlizzardPPC @ 210 Mhz, 68040/25, SCSI
BlizzardVision
96 MB RAM
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BlizzardPPC 603e @ 175Mhz, with 68040 @ 25Mhz (phase5)
BlizzardVisionPPC (DCE)
Unfortunately the A1200 with these in is sitting quietly while the AmigaOne is my main workhorse :-(
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A1200T with BlizzardPPC 603e+ 240MHz / 68040 25MHz, 256MB, BVision.
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Is a 604ePPC@233mhz really 30% faster than my lowly 180mhz version?
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It's not really noticeable in every day usage. I guess a good test would be to play the same game (e.g. PayBack PPC or Quake II PPC, etc.) and see the performance difference. Perhaps when OS4 comes out we'll see the actual difference. :-)
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This machine is equipped with a CyberstormPPC 68060/50 Mhz plus 604e/233 Mhz. Fitted to it are CybervisionPPC and 96MB RAM. Purchase and installing it was one of the best deeds I did to my A4000. But now the time arises that the 13 years old mainboard needs to be exchanged.
Regards,
Scholle
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Hi Lemmink
i've noticed your "CSPPC 233/060 probably broken PPC".
Which behaviour has the card?
Only the PPC doesn't works?
How it happened?
Cheers
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BlizzPPC 040, 166MHz 603e (50MHz bus, no SCSI) 96MB ram. BVision. Stuffed in a Micronik Infinitiv I with Z2 board.
Currently not connected, am pondering wether to sell the bugger.
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hello :-)
Two PPC systems here :-)
The main :
Original Amiga 4060T-PPC, CyberstormPPC 233 - 68060 50MHz, CyberVisionPPC 8Mb, Chinon HD Floppies, IIYAMA Vision Master 403, 17" monitor, 150Mb Fast, 2Mb Chip ;^) AmigaOS 3.9 unoBB3, MMULib v43.11, ALGOR USB+FlashRom + La Cie Hexadrive, X-Surf I, HyperCOM IIIZ, Repulse SoundCard, 10 Gb IDE HD, 18Gb UltraWide SCSI HD and outside the box : 2x 2Gb SCSI II HDs, 1x 4.5Gb FastSCSI III HD, Iomega Zip 100 internal SCSI, Plextor UltraPleX 40 max FastSCSI III CDRom, Plextor PleXWriter 12/4/32 FastSCSI III CDWriter, SyQuest SyJet 1.5Gb Cartridges SCSI HD all in a neat small SCSI tower, ADSL Internet :^) Epson GT5000 // flatbed scanner, Canon BJC620 BubbleJet printer.
the second :
Amiga 1200 with Blizzard PPC 040 and Blizzard vision PPC.
:-)
Pfffew ;^) (others 24 AMIGA configs on demand ;^)
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gday i have A1200 603@210mhz/060@50mhz+scsi 128meg ram grex/voodoo3/3000
and an A1 whoo hoo it flies um sorry coundnt help myself
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See sig...
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cool...here is mine:))
A1200T/BlizzardPPC 603/233-040/33,BVision,64MB,SubwayUSB,SCSI,4-IDE,HDD 30GB,HDD 2.3GB,CDRW,CD-ROM,OpticalMous,WebCam,Scaner,Priinter,modem,'17 Monitor.......OS3.9+BoingBag2!!!!
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cool...here is mine:))
A1200T/BlizzardPPC 603/233-040/33,BVision,64MB,SubwayUSB,SCSI,4-IDE,HDD 30GB,HDD 2.3GB,CDRW,CD-ROM,OpticalMous,WebCam,Scaner,Priinter,modem,'17 Monitor.......OS3.9+BoingBag2!!!!
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Here's my setup:
CyberStorm PPC 060:50Mhz/604e:200Mhz
Cybervision64
X-Surf
FrameMachine
AD516 (x2)
One Stop Music Box
CD-Writer
CD-Rom
ZIP drive
96 MB memory
2x 9GB SCSI HD
Optical mouse
17" Nec Multisync P750
OS 3.9 + BB 1&2
My desktop:
http://www.barbiesbloodrave.nl/Workbench.jpg
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Posted from:
Amiga Tech A4000T, 2 MB Chip, 16 MB Fast
Phase5 CS-PPC 604e-200/68060-60/128 MB Fast
CybervisionPPC (is in the mail, should have it in a day or two).
IBM 9.1 GB 10000rpm UW-SCSI HD, IBM 4.3 GB 7200rpm UW-SCSI HD
40x Toshiba SCSI CD-ROM (on mb scsi.device), Yamaha 6x4x16x CDRW (on scsi.device)
PicassoIV with Concierto and PalomaTV
DelfinaPlus
Ariadne2
Vlab
Running OS3.9BB2 and Debian 3.0r2 (LinuxPPC)
regards,
Paul
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Hi Lemmink
i've noticed your "CSPPC 233/060 probably broken PPC".
Which behaviour has the card?
Only the PPC doesn't works?
How it happened?
Well the System startsup well with the card, SCSI works fine even a CVPPC isn`t makeing any problems.
Starting simple 68k programms (like desktoptools) is no problem, more complex thing like "real" programms don`t work (no crashes, it`s just that nothing happens when you doubleclick the programmicon), Starting PPC-programms results in absolut no reaction. I have used a copy of my current sys partiton to test the card.
I hadn`t time to give set up a system from scratch to see what is really up with the card.
On the subject how I happend I can`t say much. I bought it used and the former owner told me the machine works well, he just formated the drive so he didn`t have any PPC-Programms to show me it works. As I picked up the sytem im person and talked to the guy he belived him as he seemed totally trustworthy. After I loaded teh machine into my car he told me that he actually never managed to run any WarpOS Programms, only PowerUP. I thought, well he just had not the patient to fiddle around with it.
Then he told me that he once send in the whole sytem A4000 Mobo, Picasso II and PPC-card and got it reworked.
The A4000 mobo actes strange too, it refuses to boot up with an MKII but happyly accepts the PPC-card or the original 030 card.
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@redrumloa
Do you care to share what this experimental modification
is? Inquiring minds want to know! :-D
C Snyder
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Hi Lemmink
it is an A4000CR mobo? (chipram soldered and so)
Cheers
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another PPC amiga:
A1200 in a tower KS3.1 powerflyer, pc keyb adaptor, Bvision, BlizzardPPC 603@227.5 060@65 bus@65mhz
The blizzard is a hacked 603@175 040@25 bus@50mhz.
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please tell us about the hack :-)
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I Also have PPC equipped miggy It is a blizzard PPC with 68040/25+240 Mhz 603e,128 MB RAM,Bvision,Zorro IV board+mediator ZIV,X-surf,delfina flipper,varIO,70 GB IDE HD space wit Buddga IDE card,4x cd writer.
I sold my A4000 (mirage tower) with CSPPC 060/50 with 233 Mhz 604e,scsi 3 UW,18 GB SCSI seagate @7200 RPM, 128 MB RAM,Mediator PCI+voodoo 3 3000 to a friend of mine when his A4000T died a few months ago, i do regret this very much now :shocked: