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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Software Issues and Discussion => Topic started by: _caddy_ on August 19, 2004, 05:17:30 PM
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do i have to have 3.1 kickstart for this OS upgrade?
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Yes.
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why?
there is so little difference between 3.0 n 3.1 if i remember rightly, and what are the differences?
and is it worth buying 3.9?
i currently still have 3.0
but there is 3.5 and 3.9 on ebay at the moment, and i was thinking of upgrading to one
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The main advantages of OS3.5/3.9 are the TCP/IP stack, large HD support, CDFS, and other support software. If none of this interests you, then stick to OS3.0/3.1.
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currently i'm trying to get network suppoert running on my 1200, see the netconnect issue in the post above
and i have cd running already,
large hard drive support would be nice, but idont need it at the moment - but for the future, yes it'll be nice
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The main advantages of OS3.5/3.9 are the TCP/IP stack,
AOS 3.5 doesn't include full TCP/IP stack, but Miami demo (30 min timeout, also available in Aminet).
The excuse:
IMPORTANT NOTE:
Unfortunately it couldn't be done in lastmimnute.
Miami OEM couldn't be finished in time, therefore a Demoversion
that is restricted to 30 minutes is included. The OEM Version
will be made available via Internet shortly.
Please lookout for Notes in the Amiga press and on the Amiga Homepage
www.amiga.com.
We thank you for your understanding.
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WICHTIGER HINWEIS:
Leider hat es in letzter Minute nicht mehr geklappt.
Miami OEM konnte nicht rechtzeitig fertiggestellt werden, weshalb
eine auf 30 Minuten beschränkte Demoversion beiliegt. Die OEM Version
wird in Kürze über das Internet verfügbar gemacht.
Bitte beachten Sie Hinweise in der Fachpresse und auf der
Amiga Homepage www.amiga.de.
Wir danken für Ihr Verständnis.
LastMinute 819 ----rwed 05-Oct-99 16:46:37
(Reproduced here without permission from Haage & Partner. Sue me.)
AOS 3.5 never got TCP/IP stack, even though it was advertised to include it.
AOS 3.9 contains illegal copy (http://www.iki.fi/too/amitcp.txt) of AmiTCP/IP.
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i downloaded the miami demo and it doesnt work properly
or doesnt install properly
i have a full original copy of the netconnect V2.3 software ,
i'll scan the CD, coz i know you guys hate "WAREZ" so much, but the serial code included with it wont go throught the licence thingy, so it wont unpack genesis 4.6
edit:
linky: http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0RgDpAmIVMgLgQLZBNZ6RMr01kd!xcMLenVv9OTL3hnc!92dI30lf2h!cCCLNgEDGOUJ3gcWwpMFnBzBOo9s2rq9vfzaO9qPmd7rdk6n88Ak/netconnect23.jpg?dc=4675485536041499519
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I had a 3.0 kickstart setup a few years ago on an A1200. I renumbered the version numbers of "dos.library" and "exec.library" to the required 41.xx. I used a program called "libchange" IIRC from Aminet. This worked okay for OS35. Heh.
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cool i'll try that, i mean from what i heard, they reboot from they're own roms anyway, so i cant se what the big deal about having roms previus to that is in the first place
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Os3.9 is worth having.
upgrade - it's more stable.
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i hear there's two editions as well :(
what's the difference betwen those
sorry excuse my lameness, its been about 7 years since i had an amiga, and i havent been keeping up very much
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If you decide on OS3.5, I still have them for $22 on my eShop (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4598&item=5107261209).
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@redrumloa
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Hum,
you should perhaps have the option to buy Amiga 3.1 ROMs with it in a sort of `upgrade bundle` sort of way...
(er, since it is really useless with out it)
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@blobrana
I wish I could find a good stock of OS3.1 ROMS. I may have a line on some A500/A2000 ROMS, but no A3k/A4/A1200:-(
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The main advantages of OS3.5/3.9 are the TCP/IP stack, large HD support, CDFS, and other support software. If none of this interests you, then stick to OS3.0/3.1.
Plus things as integrated deficons, newicons, integrated search function, async wb, improved datatypes that make it much more useful than 3.0/3.1.. everyone with 3.1 roms really should get OS3.9, its well worth its money..
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_caddy_ wrote:
i mean from what i heard, they reboot from they're own roms anyway
Not quite..
OS3.5 and 3.9 replaces some of the modules from the 3.1 rom and reboots. The romupdate file isn`t a rom image ,so it can`t be softkicked they way other programs like degraders can.
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You can softkick 3.1 and use OS3.5/3.9, but you cannot patch the OS with the patch file in devs.
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Os3.5
all this just so i can play some of my old games on a real amiga, hehehehe
and yeah, i might buy os3.9 and a set of roms
but it'll cost like £30, and i'm a poor student
so it may take a while
lol
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rayt wrote:
...integrated search function...
Where is this? The Find utility in the System folder? If so, I don't consider that very integrated.
I agree though that 3.9 is a very nice OS and has much more functionality than 3.0/3.1. But, if you're only going to play games then don't bother.
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@TjLaZer
You can softkick 3.1 and use OS3.5/3.9, but you cannot patch the OS with the patch file in devs.
Why not?
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...integrated search function...
Where is this? The Find utility in the System folder? If so, I don't consider that very integrated.
Have you recently looked into the Window menu ?
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_caddy_ wrote:
i hear there's two editions as well :(
what's the difference betwen those
Yeah I heard that, does anyone know if there is a difference?
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How does OS 3.9 run on a stock A1200? Just wondering, as I was looking at upgrading as well to either OS 3.5 or OS3.9. The Amiga I just picked up from eBay has a 68020 accelerator in it I think (I haven't got it yet). How hard is it to attach a CD-Rom to the Amiga 1200? I'll go check some other threads on this as well. Thanks!
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How does OS 3.9 run on a stock A1200?
It doesn't. You need at least 6MB RAM.
To provisorily connect a CD drive should not be too difficult. You need a 2.5" to 3.5" adapter and a power cable. However you need to leave the case open and the drive lies uncovered on the table.
Another possibility is to connect the Amiga HDD to a PC and use WinUAE to install the OS.
Bye,
Thomas
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Lemmink wrote:
Where is this? The Find utility in the System folder? If so, I don't consider that very integrated.
Have you recently looked into the Window menu ?
Yes, that just runs the Find utility from the System folder. I wouldn't call that integrated (it doesn't even use the current window as the search point so I don't know why it's in the Window menu). I was hoping there was a better solution that I'd overlooked.