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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Marketplace => Topic started by: EdKing on August 16, 2004, 01:16:20 AM
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I just saw this (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4598&item=5116383636&rd=1) on eBay, supposedly Fred Fish's original A1000. Price seems a little steep.
Ed King
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How do we know it's real?
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iamaboringperson wrote:
How do we know it's real?
Worn out floppy? :lol:
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Are you proposing that there might be someone dishonest on eBay? I can't imagine that happening!!! :-P
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What? That's sooo Bogus. It doesn't even come with any of the Fish Disks.
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iamaboringperson wrote:
How do we know it's real?
They say it has the original invoice, wonder if Fred's name is on it ?
Ed King
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EdKing wrote:
iamaboringperson wrote:
How do we know it's real?
They say it has the original invoice, wonder if Fred's name is on it ?
Ed King
"They" claim to be Fred :-)
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We are Fred, you will be assimilated
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LOL @Cyberus
I'd pay about $30 for it.
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My guess is its probably real.........
He would probably sign it inside or out too if you want.
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I think it's real too. This really begs the question of just how collectable "famous" person's Amiga systems really are. I think that nobody questions that Jay Miner's Amiga has collectable value. But after a handful of famous persons, you have to really give this some thought.
Anybody who knows me on amiga.org will know that I am really only interested in collecting Amiga (and no other aspect of Amiga), so I'm going to speak as a collector when I say that I don't see a great deal of value in these one-off systems.
Like someone mentioned above, this Amiga might be worth something to me if it came with some of the first Fish disks, and perhaps a picture of FF next ot this Amiga in a magazine interview, and maybe some other related memerobillia and a signed COA all as a set.
I said the same thing about Laxity's Amiga 500. I've little reason to doubt it was legit, but to be worth somehting to me, it would have had to come with supporting letters, magazine clippings, photos, "best of show at the gathering" certificates, etc. that showed even non-Amiga collectors why this computer has a historical significance.
Hopefuly, we'll see some Amigas computers like this come along. As I've said, it would be cool to get Trip Hawkins' A1000, along with a signed COA and maybe framed copies of the EA launch titles. Or .info magazine's Amiga 2000, with all the publishing software still installed, and saves of various articles still in mid-edit, etc...
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FastRobPlus,
Yeah, documents, acticles, a signed case and some photos with the 1000 would make it more collectable (as would the mouse being included).
Arther C Clarke's, Andy Wahol's, Blondie's and Rolf Harris' Amigas would be neat to own, maybe Rob's from Babylon5, the Jurrasic Park machines, Wallace & Gromet's A4000s or even some from NASA! All would be nice to have :-) . Just what value they would have would depend alot on supporting evidence that came with them and just how much one wanted a piece of Amiga history. I would like one of the Babylon5 A2000s ;-) .
I wonder what my almost famous A3000 would be worth (famous in that it's owner, me, has a web site about the 3000 and hangs out at A.Org). ;-)
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Don't forget Dick VanDyke. He was big on Amiga/Toaster systems. I have an A1200 box that reads underneath a partially peeled shipping lable "VanDyke Studios".
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Didn't someone on another thread ask DoomMaster to sign their A2000?
:lol:
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Collectable items are only worth what the buyer is willing to pay, regardless of what the item actually is.
Fred Fish did play a HUGE part in establishing the critically important freeware and shareware aspect of the Amiga long before the Internet was available to mere mortals, long before even BBS's were en vogue, and even before 300 baud modems were within the reach of the average user.
Fred Fish was the source of Amiga software for thousands of Amiga users when software wasn't easy to come by. As such, I do see a little bit of collectability there, but to me (personally) about $100 is pretty much the limit for what would become a closet-filler.
Several people who might have a collectable Amiga fall into a much more desirable category... Carl Sassenrath, Dale Luck, Mike Sinz, Dave Haynie, Jay Miner, and the other original developers come to mind. These are machines owned by innovators that bear serial numbers in the tens, not thousands.
Then again, I have very little available closet space.
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Agreed. While I know Fred Fish has been away from the Amiga for many years, it's still sad to see him selling his A1000 off. Fred Fish was a HUGE part of Amiga's success. If this is really being sold with the original bill of sale to Fred Fish himself, I'd say it should be worth some dough. I'm tempted but I'm a bit strapped for cash, too many kids just started school :lol:
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In retrospect, having several hours to consider it, I would even go so far as to say that without the early push and influence of Fred Fish, there would be no Amiga community today....
Those who came into the Amiga realm early (85/86) will remember that the availability of software that Fred Fish made possible (with the programmers and others of course, but Fred really was the central point) was pretty much the very start of this community, long before we all got jaded with cheap Internet access.
Hell, the availability of Fred Fish disks pretty much inspired the creation of usergroups around the world for a few years....
We owe the man a lot. Thank you Fred. Though I haven't the money or closet space to bid on your A1000, I sincerely wish you the best.
Wayne Hunt
(a comparative newcomer to the Amiga realm compared to the accomplishments of Fred Fish)
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I remember waiting for our next monthly user group meeting to see what Fish Disks our 'librarian' had downloaded from the BBS. And between meetings I would wait for my local shop to get the latest JumpDisk - remember those? By the time our group slowly crashed and burned due to lack of users (ca. 1993) I was the president/librarian and we had over 1000 disks.
Peter
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Wayne wrote:
Fred Fish did play a HUGE part in establishing the critically important freeware and shareware aspect of the Amiga long before the Internet was available to mere mortals, long before even BBS's were en vogue, and even before 300 baud modems were within the reach of the average user.
I remember the Fish disks being very popular, but did he do something before the Amiga? I remember dialing into bulletin boards on my C64 with a 120 baud modem (I think that was the speed) back around 1979/80. Anyone else remember the C-Net bulletin board system designed by Ken Pletzer? Now those are some hazy old memories!!! Fond ones as well. :-)
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Anyone else remember the C-Net bulletin board system designed by Ken Pletzer? Now those are some hazy old memories!!! Fond ones as well
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Yup ..... I ran a C-Net C=64 BBS.
I had 2 external 3/12 inch floppies.
The same as having a large harddrive now.
Had a 1200 baud modem, it was FAST... :-D
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I don't see how we all missed this one (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4598&item=5117080821&rd=1). All 1000 masters =P