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Title: AdIDE not recognizing anything greater then 2.1gig
Post by: TheMagicM on August 15, 2004, 02:44:15 AM
I have a A500 w/1.3 roms, AdIDE2 w/a 3.2 gig 2.5" hard drive.  if I click 'Auto' to autoconfigure the hd it only gives it 2.1 gig yet it is a 3.2 gig.. is it a limitation w/1.3 or AdIDE ?  Is there a fix?
Title: Re: AdIDE not recognizing anything greater then 2.1gig
Post by: ent0mbed on August 15, 2004, 02:58:59 AM
You may have to partition it into two seperate partitions.  That could possibly be the max. size for one?
Title: Re: AdIDE not recognizing anything greater then 2.1gig
Post by: Azryl on August 15, 2004, 03:01:13 AM
I beleive that is the limitation for kickstart 1.3

It probably should even be a lower limitation than 2.1gigabytes, your partition software is doing good :)
Title: Re: AdIDE not recognizing anything greater then 2.1gig
Post by: TheMagicM on August 15, 2004, 04:51:19 AM
yea it freaks out if I force it to recognize the complete 3.2 gig...

So I left it as 2.1.. 3 partitions and oh boy does it use up ALOT of memory... down to 16megs out of my 1meg.  Glad I have a ADRam 540 w/2megs coming in next week.
Title: Re: AdIDE not recognizing anything greater then 2.1gig
Post by: TjLaZer on August 15, 2004, 06:21:04 AM
Ah so 2.1 is the max, that is what I was wondering.  I have a Novia kit coming soon.  Now I need to find a smaller HD.  I think I may have a 2G drive somewhere...

Do you have Buffers set high?  That would explain the high mem usage.  Down to 16k you mean?  Damn...
Title: Re: AdIDE not recognizing anything greater then 2.1gig
Post by: TheMagicM on August 15, 2004, 01:03:51 PM
yea, I meant 16k...lol.   I dont think I have buffers set too high because I didnt set them..unless ICD's software modified my startup-sequence.
Title: Re: AdIDE not recognizing anything greater then 2.1gig
Post by: Cyberus on August 15, 2004, 01:40:03 PM
I've got one of these on its way too.
I was gonna put in a 160MB drive that I have lying around, but thanks for letting us know about the limit.
Is it fairly easy to fit?
Title: Re: AdIDE not recognizing anything greater then 2.1gig
Post by: TheMagicM on August 15, 2004, 08:09:40 PM
a 160meg should do fine.  I'll take pics of what I did.  I didnt like the way the Novia kit came with some 'stick on' tabs.. so what I did was drilled some tiny holes (4) on the top cover of the A500 about 3" to the right of the denise chip and have the drive on there.  Fits perfect.  I'll take pics later on tonight and post them.
Title: Re: AdIDE not recognizing anything greater then 2.1gig
Post by: Loadinc on August 15, 2004, 09:21:49 PM
Ermmm and where are you guys buying these adide products?
ICD states they are not selling anymore?

Thanks,

Richard Costa
Title: Re: AdIDE not recognizing anything greater then 2.1gig
Post by: TheMagicM on August 15, 2004, 10:37:01 PM
I think they got theirs on ebay.. I just happen to run into a guy that had a few so I bought two.  I may buy some more and put them in a A500 and ebay it.
Title: Re: AdIDE not recognizing anything greater then 2.1gig
Post by: TheMagicM on August 16, 2004, 04:36:50 AM
Ok here's some pics.. (800x600)

http://www.bartonekdragracing.com/webfilez/a500_1.JPG
http://www.bartonekdragracing.com/webfilez/a500_2.JPG
http://www.bartonekdragracing.com/webfilez/a500_3.JPG

http://www.bartonekdragracing.com/webfilez/a500hd.JPG
http://www.bartonekdragracing.com/webfilez/a500hd_internal.JPG
Title: Re: AdIDE not recognizing anything greater then 2.1gig
Post by: TjLaZer on August 16, 2004, 07:01:49 AM
Ouch, don't like that with the screws on the case.  Maybe you could of used velcro or something?
Title: Re: AdIDE not recognizing anything greater then 2.1gig
Post by: Richter on August 16, 2004, 08:16:19 AM
I think it's neat. Looks a lot better than my home-made CDR/HDD-box for one of my A1200's that's for sure.
Title: Re: AdIDE not recognizing anything greater then 2.1gig
Post by: TheMagicM on August 16, 2004, 01:26:58 PM
Tjlazer:

Its just a cover, these things are a dime a dozen and I have a few A500's. LOL.   I didnt want to use the Novia bracket because it used 3 "stick on" type mounts and I didnt want to stick anything on the motherboard or chips.  
Title: Re: AdIDE not recognizing anything greater then 2.1gig
Post by: K7HTH on September 04, 2004, 08:01:39 PM
Thanks for the information guys. From this thread I was able to accure the parts needed to duplicate this upgrade for one my A500s. I am new to the Amiga scene although I have known about the A500 since it was first introduced. Now I am getting the bug to gather more parts and additional systems to tinker with on the weekends; it's a great hobby!  :-D
Title: Re: AdIDE not recognizing anything greater then 2.1gig
Post by: TheMagicM on September 05, 2004, 01:55:00 AM
I just picked up a very poor condition (DIRTY) A500 but it has a AdIDE in it!!! I will clean it up tonight to see if the AdIDE works.

-Alex
Title: Re: AdIDE not recognizing anything greater then 2.1gig
Post by: TjLaZer on September 05, 2004, 04:46:30 AM
Cool!  Where did you get it from?  I am looking for another 500 in good condition as I do not want to mess with my MIB 500.  Where can I get one?  Dont want to pay more than $30.
Title: Re: AdIDE not recognizing anything greater then 2.1gig
Post by: TheMagicM on September 05, 2004, 05:20:41 AM
It was in a box of stuff I bought from a guy locally.  I will test the AdIDE, if it works, I will sell it to you for $20 + USPS shipping, that sound ok?
Title: Re: AdIDE not recognizing anything greater then 2.1gig
Post by: TjLaZer on September 05, 2004, 05:24:59 AM
pmail me pics of it I am interested!!!
Title: Re: AdIDE not recognizing anything greater then 2.1gig
Post by: TheMagicM on September 05, 2004, 06:24:51 AM
ok..no problem.  Let me test it tomorrow to see if it works then I'll send you some pics.
Title: Re: AdIDE not recognizing anything greater then 2.1gig
Post by: TheMagicM on September 05, 2004, 06:33:23 PM
TjLazer: U have a PM.  btw it works great! (links to pics will be in pm)
Title: Re: AdIDE not recognizing anything greater then 2.1gig
Post by: alberonn on September 05, 2004, 10:30:35 PM
When I had my A500 I had one of the ICD TrifectaDX (or was it LX? It was the one that could handle both SCSI and IDE) Anyhow, it wouldn't take anything over 2.1 GB Either. I think it was a limitation of the controller and/or the software. (I couldn't get HDToolbox to work with it. Even under OS 3.1)
Title: Re: AdIDE not recognizing anything greater then 2.1gig
Post by: Computolio on September 05, 2004, 10:53:05 PM

    I have an ICD AdSCSI 2000 and I'm seeing similar problems. It pretended that a 4GB drive was 60MB and it would Guru whenever I tried to make a partition bigger than 550 MB on a 2GB drive. It looks like a software problem, which is sort of understandable given the fact that hard drives bigger than 2GB did not exist back when these controllers were designed.
Title: Re: AdIDE not recognizing anything greater then 2.1gig
Post by: K7HTH on September 06, 2004, 01:31:18 AM
I am looking at picking up an ICD AdSpeed/Aide2 card and since this doubles the CPU and enables a HDD for the A500+. I wondered if you installed ROM 3.1 in and added an AD540 with 4MB RAM would that meet the requirements for installing OS3.5? (Provided you network the A500 to a PC to use the CDROM drive for installation.)  
Title: Re: AdIDE not recognizing anything greater then 2.1gig
Post by: K7HTH on September 06, 2004, 06:08:30 PM
Maybe this is an easier question: Can a Blizzard 1230 interface with an A500+??
Title: Re: AdIDE not recognizing anything greater then 2.1gig
Post by: Cyberus on September 06, 2004, 06:13:00 PM
No
You mean can you use an A1200 accelerator with an A500?
Title: Re: AdIDE not recognizing anything greater then 2.1gig
Post by: K7HTH on September 09, 2004, 09:29:34 PM
Thanks Cyberus, I am learning by the hour here. There is an acellerator for the A500 by Blizzard, but I was not aware at the time of how many flavors there are in Blizzard boards. Now I am into the A1200 and will not look to max out A500s any more than with an AdSpeed, MegaChip and an internal HDD.
Title: Re: AdIDE not recognizing anything greater then 2.1gig
Post by: K7HTH on September 10, 2004, 03:12:41 PM
I have just installed the AIDE2 adaptor to an A500 ver 6A with 2.1 ROMS and it boots to the ROM screen fine. But when the ICD HD Prep is executed the program fully recognizes the Toshiba 2.1GB drive specs, but when AutoPrep or Partition button is clicked, I get the following error messages:

"Resulting partitions would be too small." Press Ok.

Then:

'ICDPrepHD'
Program failed (error # 80000005)
Wait for disk activity to finish. Press suspend or Reboot.

Both options cancel the program or boots me out with the red software error screen.

I have had the same results with TWO separate (same specs)Toshiba drives and get the same results. What I am doing wrong? :-?

Thank you for your help guys.

Title: Re: AdIDE not recognizing anything greater then 2.1gig
Post by: TjLaZer on September 10, 2004, 05:11:18 PM
@KD7HTH

You in the US Military?  I am.
Title: Re: AdIDE not recognizing anything greater then 2.1gig
Post by: Cyberus on September 10, 2004, 05:16:58 PM
edited by me:
Talking crap
Title: Re: AdIDE not recognizing anything greater then 2.1gig
Post by: TheMagicM on September 10, 2004, 06:52:19 PM
KD7HTH:

I had the exact same problem... what I had was a 3.2 gig IDE and it would not recognize the size correctly so I entered it manually, well when I did that I recieved the error you had.  But if I left it alone it would recognize only 2.1 gig and would NOT give me the error you just recieved.  Sounds to me like its not recognizing the drive properly even though you say it is.
Title: Re: AdIDE not recognizing anything greater then 2.1gig
Post by: TjLaZer on September 10, 2004, 07:23:52 PM
@Cyberus

Was just trying to strike up a conversation with the guy.  That's how it is done in the USA, by asking a question.
Title: Re: AdIDE not recognizing anything greater then 2.1gig
Post by: Cyberus on September 10, 2004, 07:30:03 PM
Sorry, I realised that after I'd posted it.
In fact, I would have done it the same way.
I've just had a bad day and was being {bleep}ty. My apologies.
Title: Re: AdIDE not recognizing anything greater then 2.1gig
Post by: TjLaZer on September 10, 2004, 10:03:11 PM
Hey no worries, I have had days like that too!!
Title: Re: AdIDE not recognizing anything greater then 2.1gig
Post by: K7HTH on September 10, 2004, 10:15:06 PM
Hey TjLaZer,

Yes, bro I am in the Army and I was last stationed at Ft Lewis which I suspect you are now located. We loved Washington for the three years we were there . Mt Rainer stole my heart. I hiked the Wonderland trail the last summer I was there it was so beautiful. I took up SCUBA diving with the guys in Ray James' shop and since I have been in Germany I have only had one dive and that was in a lake; sad compared to the Puget Sound. 15 months in Iraq put diving out of commission for sure. I have a closet full of SCUBA gear and can't wait to get back to the States next spring to get back in the water. Not sure about returning to Lewis though. Chances are I would end up in one of the Striker Brigades and be back in the sand box in no time. Completed 20 years this month and looking to serving one more tour in the States when we leave here. I picked up on working with Amigas the past month and enjoy it immensely since I am a tech it is fun to tinker again.

Now as for AIDE2 configuring my drive, I did get one instance where the program stated my 2.1GB drive was only 85MB. I reset the 500 and then I got 0MB. So I got frustrated, rebooted and kept the standard settings without using the auto congig and then 2.1GB showed up. As I continued to partition then I got the above messages. It is frustrating but in a good way because once solved the victory is sweet, but you guys already know this. Any other advice?

The best,

-Ken
Title: Re: AdIDE not recognizing anything greater then 2.1gig
Post by: K7HTH on September 11, 2004, 03:51:44 PM
TOP
Title: Re: AdIDE not recognizing anything greater then 2.1gig
Post by: K7HTH on September 12, 2004, 05:46:03 PM
Anyone?
Title: Re: AdIDE not recognizing anything greater then 2.1gig
Post by: TheMagicM on September 12, 2004, 06:23:05 PM
have you tried a different drive?
Title: Re: AdIDE not recognizing anything greater then 2.1gig
Post by: K7HTH on September 12, 2004, 07:29:14 PM
Yes, I have two each 2.5" 2.1GB Toshiba notebook HDDs and I get the same results from each, either 2.1GB w/errors or 850MB w/errors or 0MB w/errors. Sucks, but the effort is worth it.
Title: Re: AdIDE not recognizing anything greater then 2.1gig
Post by: K7HTH on September 13, 2004, 01:50:36 PM
I finally got the program to partition one of the drives but the best I could get was letting the program determine my 2.1GB drive is 850MB. Now I wonder if it is possible to go back into the process to see if I could get more partitions, however I suspect I will lose the WB 2.1 installation on the drive now. Any suggestions?
Title: Re: AdIDE not recognizing anything greater then 2.1gig
Post by: K7HTH on September 17, 2004, 12:01:52 AM
No connection, no reply, KD7HTH is on the side.
Title: Re: AdIDE not recognizing anything greater then 2.1gig
Post by: TheMagicM on September 17, 2004, 01:26:31 AM
I still think its your hard drive.  I had similiar problems with mine until I switched to a quantum 540meg.  
Title: Re: AdIDE not recognizing anything greater then 2.1gig
Post by: K7HTH on September 18, 2004, 02:03:06 AM
Thanks bro, I am settling for the 850MB I am getting since it is working out well.
Title: Re: AdIDE not recognizing anything greater then 2.1gig
Post by: Azryl on January 03, 2005, 12:36:43 AM