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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: orange on August 07, 2004, 11:27:16 PM
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I got PCMCIA Ethernet card for A1200 (3com and supported by 3c589.lha), now what?
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Please dont tell me that MIAMI and SAMBA and FTP is the only way to exchange files with windows ;)
('cause I've heard its next to impossible to configure)
and I'd like to use it with switch; hope that doesn't complicate things a lot..
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Well, you're going to need Miami or Genesis as a TCP/IP stack.
Both are quite easy to configure, though. Especially for simple intranet type configuration with a switch.
You'll also need some form of transfer software, such as FTP or SAMBA. FTP is so crazy simple, though, that it shouldn't be a problem, either. SAMBA I probably wouldn't recommend until you get a little more comfortable with the setup. There are some really good tutorials on-line, though.
But, basically, yeah, you'll need Miami and FTP setup to transfer files........ :lol:
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I use Cloanto's Amiga Explorer to move files between my Windows and Amiga boxes. The interface is on the Windows side, however, so if you need to transfer files using the Amiga as the interface, I'd go with Samba.
Trev
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Could you tell me more about Miami and FTP?
Is Miami commercial product or can it be freely downloaded from Aminet?
(there are sooo many results when searching for it on Aminet)
What FTP program is good for A1200?
I've got only 4Mb (8Mb doesn't work with PCMCIA), will that be enough for all these programs?
Is MUI required?
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Hum,
try these links...:
(you need to download MUI to improve the interface anyway)
Miami32b (http://wuarchive.wustl.edu/~aminet/comm/tcp/Miami32b-MUI.lha)
mui v38 (http://wuarchive.wustl.edu/~aminet/util/libs/mui38usr.lha)
The read- me files will explain what they do, and why...
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Could you tell me more about Miami and FTP?
Well, regardless, if you want to use your ethernet card, you need to install a TCP/IP stack. Most modern operating systems have TCP/IP built in, but for AmigaOS, you have to install it seperate. There are basically two choices I'd recommend, Miami and Genesis. Here's the rundown
MIAMI:
The good:
* Popular (lots of support from other users here)
* Free Shareware timed demo (fully functional for 30 minutes at a time)
* Fairly easy to configure (graphical config tool uses MUI)
The bad:
* Original author went defunct, so now there is no way to buy the full version, anymore
GENESIS:
The good:
* Full version comes free with AmigaOS 3.9
* Also fairly easy to configure (graphical configu tools for MUI or ReAction)
The bad:
* Not quite as many features as MiamiDX
* Occasionally acts a little erratically
Personally, I run Genesis on my A4000 with OS3.9, and Miami on my older machine that only runs OS3.1.
Now, once you get TCP/IP networking up, you can use just about any client you want to copy things over. FTP is probably one of the simplest to configure, though. FTP is a client/server style setup.
What I'd recommend is running a FTP daemon (service) on your PC. (This will be the "server" side.) Plenty of free FTPd's can be found out there.
War FTPd is available for Windows under GPL (http://war.jgaa.com:8080/support/index.php?cmd=ShowProduct&ID=3&PHPSESSID=d4faa8ef3e502d899d45c2a760082c45) and isn't a bad choice... Or if you search Tucows or Download.com or whatever, I'm sure you'll find many more...
For the Amiga side, you'll need an FTP Client. I've heard AmiTradeCenter (http://amitradecenter.net/download.html) is quite good. (I'm stuck in ages past, and still use Vapor's AmiFTP) Anyhow, you'll use the FTP client to control where you're copying files. (The local side would be your Amiga directories, and your remote side would be your PC directories.)
Of course, if you're feeling adventurous you could do it the other way around, and run an FTPd on the Amiga, and an FTP client on the PC. (Then you'd control everything from the PC, though.)
Anyhow, quickly read through the config docs on your programs and fire them up. You should then be ready to transfer files. :-)
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Miami is best choice and it works for 1 hour
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From my use of Miami and Genesis I find that Genesis is much faster than Miami and uses less memory.
It's easy enough to setup and is included with AmigaOS 3.9.
Samba isn't hard to get running on the Amiga if you only want to access Windows shares, you only need the program smbfs (http://wuarchive.wustl.edu/aminet/comm/tcp/smbfs.lha) . Remember to increase the stack a bit before running it though, otherwise it might be crashy!
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From my use of Miami and Genesis I find that Genesis is much faster than Miami and uses less memory.
I concur with this, as well. I don't have the exact figures to back it up, but certainly there was a speed improvement when I went from Miami to Genesis on my A4000.
Also, I stand corrected, the demo version of Miami is functional for 1 hour. (It was the IBrowse web-browser that timed out after 30 minutes.)
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YES, smbfs is GREAT, it works :-)
I get about 200kbytes/sec and thats more than enough.
I am getting a bit greedy now, though 8-) and thinking about using genesis instead of miami.
Whats the difference between Miami and MiamiDX?
I've got KS3.0 and WB3.0, can newer versions of Genesis work on it or they require OS3.9?
I'd like to use parnet so that my other Amiga can access network drives, can it be done?
Is there anything better than watch for measuring speed of transfer?