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Title: Using NDOS on AmigaForever?
Post by: ent0mbed on August 01, 2004, 02:31:42 AM
I am very close to purchasing a copy of AmigaForever, but wanted to find something out first.  Most of the games I own are NDOS diskettes and to play them I have to boot my Amiga with them.  Is there a way to use these games with AmigaForever (without purchasing a CatWeasel and hooking a floppy drive up to it)?  And just in case I'd better ask... if I were to purchase the CatWeasel is that even a solution?!  I just want to know before I go charging into things.  

Thanks!!!
Title: Re: Using NDOS on AmigaForever?
Post by: Thomas on August 01, 2004, 10:17:28 AM

Well, NDOS can mean different things. If those disks can be copied with DiskCopy for example, they can simply be turned into ADFs with Transdisk or AmigaExplorer.

But if they are copy protected (e.g. use a non-amiga track format), there is no way to create ADFs, even with a Catweasel. You could talk to the CAPS people, they can create IPF images from these disks. Or you could use WHDLoad to install the games to HDD and then copy the HDD installation to the PC.

However there is the RawRead program from Toni Wilen, it can create extended ADFs of non-amiga tracks. See Aminet.

Bye,
Thomas
Title: Re: Using NDOS on AmigaForever?
Post by: seer on August 01, 2004, 11:04:56 AM
AFAIK, transdisk just dumps the disk sector for sector to an adf image and doesn't care if it's dos or not. So if you've got an working Amiga you should be able to make ADF files of all your game disks

Can't test it now... My last working Amiga isn't nearby..
Title: Re: Using NDOS on AmigaForever?
Post by: redrumloa on August 01, 2004, 12:27:57 PM
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Is there a way to use these games with AmigaForever (without purchasing a CatWeasel and hooking a floppy drive up to it)?


No, not realistically. Unless of course you have access to a real (and somewhat upgraded) Classic Amiga.

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if I were to purchase the CatWeasel is that even a solution?!


At this point it is not because no one has the PCI version of the Catweasel in stock. Unless of course your PC has ISA slots. The Catweasel MK4 will be out in a few months though.
Title: Re: Using NDOS on AmigaForever?
Post by: ent0mbed on August 01, 2004, 04:26:27 PM
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redrumloa wrote:

At this point it is not because no one has the PCI version of the Catweasel in stock. Unless of course your PC has ISA slots. The Catweasel MK4 will be out in a few months though.


Excellent!  Thanks for the tips everyone.  I'll have to open my PCs case to remind myself whether or not I have an ISA slot to use, but I may just wait for the PCI verison and stick with playing those games on my Amiga for the time being.  Do I understand correctly that if I get the PCI version and have a disk in the "Amiga designated" floppy that I can boot from that disk when using Amiga Forever?  Again, many thanks for the advice!