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Title: Posting guidelines updated : Avatar usage
Post by: on July 30, 2004, 04:02:54 PM
Good morning,

Based on several complaints that we have received recently, the Posting Guidelines (available via the menu at left) have been revised to include the following which will take effect immediately.  Check your avatar.  If it falls within the following, change it.  

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Regarding the use of Avatars.
The use of avatars is intended to allow people to express a little about themselves. We reserve the right to remove avatars of a questionable nature, such as those containing "near nudity", cleavage, or other matter which is of a potentially offensive nature. Please remember that to the users of this site, Amiga.org is considered to be family-friendly. Anything less results is us being banned at workplaces, public access points and other areas.
Title: Re: Posting guidelines updated : Avatar usage
Post by: blobrana on July 30, 2004, 04:06:34 PM
Hum,
so no M$ images then?
Title: Re: Posting guidelines updated : Avatar usage
Post by: on July 30, 2004, 04:15:55 PM
Specifically, we need to eliminate a number of sexually explicit avatars which are drawing complaints.
Title: Re: Posting guidelines updated : Avatar usage
Post by: Failure on July 30, 2004, 04:18:16 PM
Thanks for that, one in particular has been making checking the site at work a bit...risky :-)
Title: Re: Posting guidelines updated : Avatar usage
Post by: macto on July 30, 2004, 04:19:36 PM
Wayne:

It really looks like your avatar has his/her mind on sex.  At least that is the expression one of my friends get on their face when they think about it. :-D

But I agree on the whole.  Particularly with respect to one of the avatars which frequently pops up.
Title: Re: Posting guidelines updated : Avatar usage
Post by: on July 30, 2004, 04:37:33 PM
A smiling kitten has nothing sexually explicit about it, unless there is something you would like to discuss with your local mental health affiliate.
Title: Re: Posting guidelines updated : Avatar usage
Post by: bloodline on July 30, 2004, 04:46:22 PM
Is mine ok... it's a bit S & M isn't it! :-?
Title: Re: Posting guidelines updated : Avatar usage
Post by: on July 30, 2004, 04:48:53 PM
Sorry guys, based on the complaints that I'm hearing, my sense of humor is somewhat quelled on this matter.  If your avatar is sexually explicit, please change it.
Title: Re: Posting guidelines updated : Avatar usage
Post by: seer on July 30, 2004, 04:56:00 PM
@Wayne

How many avatars are we talking about ? Maybe a PM to the users concerned may be a good thing ??


PS, did you get my email ? Just wondering..  :-)
Title: Re: Posting guidelines updated : Avatar usage
Post by: Piru on July 30, 2004, 05:08:50 PM
w00t
Title: Re: Posting guidelines updated : Avatar usage
Post by: mikeymike on July 30, 2004, 05:11:51 PM
seer, of course, the users concerned have already been contacted.

Title: Re: Posting guidelines updated : Avatar usage
Post by: cecilia on July 30, 2004, 05:38:41 PM
gee, and i was SO hoping to upload that AV of a giant penis.
:roflmao:







kidding!
Title: Re: Posting guidelines updated : Avatar usage
Post by: seer on July 30, 2004, 06:12:00 PM
@Mikeymike,

Ah, ok. Was a bit wondering about the question bloodline made and Wayne's reply on that.

No harm ment.

Title: Re: Posting guidelines updated : Avatar usage
Post by: Hyperspeed on July 30, 2004, 07:32:03 PM
The ONLY person I've ever seen with a suggestive avatar is
iamaboringperson who last time had a woman in a black dress that had
popped open, and the current one is a bikini clad woman's butt!

Oh the misery if these simple joys were to be removed...

:-( :-( :-( :-D :-D :-D
Title: Re: Posting guidelines updated : Avatar usage
Post by: Cyberus on July 30, 2004, 07:39:07 PM
:roflmao: sorry

The only thing I'd find offensive (at least in this environment :)) is a zoomed in picture of a lady's a*se cleavage...
Title: Re: Posting guidelines updated : Avatar usage
Post by: Speelgoedmannetje on July 30, 2004, 08:03:55 PM
well, I always say we're all born nude, through the vagina, and we all sucked on mom's tits (or the nurturer's), so family values shouldn't be offended with such pictures methinks :-)

[maybe we should rather talk about office-values]
Title: Re: Posting guidelines updated : Avatar usage
Post by: minator on July 30, 2004, 08:14:46 PM
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The only thing I'd find offensive (at least in this environment :)) is a zoomed in picture of a lady's a*se cleavage...


Tell us that after you've seen someone with a "goatse" avatar...

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BTW How many complaints have there been?

Is it a substantial number or 2?

I'm asking because I remember there was a fuss about a TV program having complaints some years ago and they changed it (or something about it).

In the end it turns out that 6 million had watched the program but only a grand total of 11 had complained.

That said what is acceptable and what isn't can vary greatly between countries.
Title: Re: Posting guidelines updated : Avatar usage
Post by: logicalheart on July 30, 2004, 08:25:37 PM
"well, I always say we're all born nude, through the vagina, and we all sucked on mom's"

Sex, and those events you mentioned are personal, sacred,  and have no place here.  I believe this site is here to draw legitimate Amiga related interest and attention, not to distract us from faithful pursuits in real life relationships by jolting our basic sex drive.  I'm glad to see this updated posting guideline.
Title: Re: Posting guidelines updated : Avatar usage
Post by: Speelgoedmannetje on July 30, 2004, 08:30:35 PM
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Sex, and those events you mentioned are personal, sacred, and have no place here.

That's YOUR opinion.
I can also say that I take offense to all right-wing statements. (also, ppl vote 'secretly')
Title: Re: Posting guidelines updated : Avatar usage
Post by: KennyR on July 30, 2004, 08:40:03 PM
@speel

Say that after you've been fired for 'looking at pornography' while browsing Amiga.org.
Title: Re: Posting guidelines updated : Avatar usage
Post by: Speelgoedmannetje on July 30, 2004, 08:41:48 PM
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KennyR wrote:
@speel

Say that after you've been fired for 'looking at pornography' while browsing Amiga.org.

what I stated earlier in this thread:
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[maybe we should rather talk about office-values]

(if only ppl would closely read my carefully written posts)
Title: Re: Posting guidelines updated : Avatar usage
Post by: KennyR on July 30, 2004, 09:06:07 PM
What you must also realise is, like offices, most families do not whittle away the hours sitting around each other with their erogenous zones on display.
Title: Re: Posting guidelines updated : Avatar usage
Post by: Karlos on July 30, 2004, 09:32:32 PM
As long as I'm still free to express acts of extreme violence against comically overweight (and otherwise) OS mascots, I'm happy :lol:

Where's that minigun?
Title: Re: Posting guidelines updated : Avatar usage
Post by: Speelgoedmannetje on July 30, 2004, 09:39:11 PM
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KennyR wrote:
What you must also realise is, like offices, most families do not whittle away the hours sitting around each other with their erogenous zones on display.
But there's also a very ridiculous "invention" like a swimming suit or prudish things alike.
Title: Re: Posting guidelines updated : Avatar usage
Post by: cecilia on July 30, 2004, 09:48:23 PM
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But there's also a very ridiculous "invention" like a swimming suit or prudish things alike.
well, i've got to agree that such things are - in theory - prudish.

however, in America, we have alot of people who should remind clothed so as not to scare the horses.:roflmao:


(for those non-english speakers:
that's an idiom from the early 20th century when cars were starting to come into use. there were plenty of horses on the roads. it was considered in poor taste to do something with your car - like drive too noisily - because it would startle the horses)
Title: Re: Posting guidelines updated : Avatar usage
Post by: Speelgoedmannetje on July 30, 2004, 10:01:35 PM
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cecilia wrote:
however, in America, we have alot of people who should remind clothed so as not to scare the horses.:roflmao:
 
Well, as if everyone has to be physically handsome! But I don't care whether they're dressed or not.
Title: Re: Posting guidelines updated : Avatar usage
Post by: todi on July 30, 2004, 10:17:29 PM
@Karlos

I wonder how "family-friendly" that is! :-o

Not at all IMHO...
Title: Re: Posting guidelines updated : Avatar usage
Post by: Cyberus on July 30, 2004, 10:42:07 PM
I think it is kinda funny, yes. But don't you think we have trivialised a fair point though? I mean, I surf the internet on a laptop in my front room, where there are usually people. So regardless of whether I am offended or not, I might not want images that may offend others on display in my living tomb.
I kinda feel I'm stating the obvious, but oh well...  
Title: Re: Posting guidelines updated : Avatar usage
Post by: Argo on July 30, 2004, 10:43:06 PM
Tell that to the dentist in PA that was arrested for having a naked woman riding on his motorcycle. Well, she was arrested too. Apparently, according to the news she was quite nasty to the officer.

Remember folks, this site is PG-13 (http://www.moviesatthemall.com/pg13.html).
(http://www.mpaa.org/images/movieratings/PG-13(small)-01.gif)
Title: Re: Posting guidelines updated : Avatar usage
Post by: Speelgoedmannetje on July 30, 2004, 11:36:24 PM
But is for instance a sculpture or painting from Michelangelo offending? And why wouldn't guns (as I've seen those in avatars) be offending?
Title: Re: Posting guidelines updated : Avatar usage
Post by: mikeymike on July 30, 2004, 11:36:52 PM
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Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
well, I always say we're all born nude, through the vagina, and we all sucked on mom's tits (or the nurturer's)


I imagine we all soiled a few hundred pairs of nappies as well, but WHAT HAS THAT GOT TO DO WITH THE AMIGA?
Title: Re: Posting guidelines updated : Avatar usage
Post by: Speelgoedmannetje on July 30, 2004, 11:45:40 PM
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mikeymike wrote:
WHAT HAS THAT GOT TO DO WITH THE AMIGA?
What have those coffeehouses to do with the Amiga?
(why is that lovely computer actually called Amiga?)
Title: Re: Posting guidelines updated : Avatar usage
Post by: macto on July 30, 2004, 11:50:13 PM
@todi

Karlos' comment can, however, be regarded as a political statement relevant to these forums.  Sexual symbols cannot.
Title: Re: Posting guidelines updated : Avatar usage
Post by: mikeymike on July 30, 2004, 11:55:19 PM
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Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
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mikeymike wrote:
WHAT HAS THAT GOT TO DO WITH THE AMIGA?
What have those coffeehouses to do with the Amiga?


Coffee House is meant to be 'off topic' (at least as far as Amiga is concerned), not the entirety of Amiga.org.
Title: Re: Posting guidelines updated : Avatar usage
Post by: mikeymike on July 30, 2004, 11:58:48 PM
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But is for instance a sculpture or painting from Michelangelo offending?

Does anyone find a scuplure by Michelangelo offensive?

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And why wouldn't guns (as I've seen those in avatars) be offending?

Do you find pictures of guns offensive?

But my primary question has to be, why are you defending immature uses of avatars?  Isn't there something more interesting and/or more important to talk about?
Title: Re: Posting guidelines updated : Avatar usage
Post by: on July 31, 2004, 12:01:30 AM
Guys?

As usual, you're sitting here debating for the simple pleasure of hearing yourselves.  There is no debate here, either warranted or accepted, nor are these open to interpretation.  If I, or a moderator sees another avatar with questionable content contained, it will be removed.  No questions asked or explanations given.  

This is why we have a posting guideline, and if anyone really wants to push the point, I'll simply remove the ability to have avatars altogether.  I know that removing avatars (and 60-70k per PAGE) would NOT hurt the people who are still on dialup one single bit.

Wayne
Title: Re: Posting guidelines updated : Avatar usage
Post by: Speelgoedmannetje on July 31, 2004, 12:12:44 AM
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mikeymike wrote:
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But is for instance a sculpture or painting from Michelangelo offending?

Does anyone find a scuplure by Michelangelo offensive?
I really don't know.
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Do you find pictures of guns offensive?
Yes, I think guns are as offensive as swastika's and alike. Because it has a history of caused grief and a future of causing grief, as it is the sole purpose of those.
Plus, I ain't using a sword as my avatar (I like swords for  some utterly childish reason) either for the same reasons.
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why are you defending immature uses of avatars?

If one wants to be that way, I think I'd be a hypocrite to condemn such a person, because I sometimes also want to state things with my avatar.
Title: Re: Posting guidelines updated : Avatar usage
Post by: mikeymike on July 31, 2004, 12:20:29 AM
- edit - if anyone wants to continue this, start a coffee house thread -

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Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
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mikeymike wrote:
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But is for instance a sculpture or painting from Michelangelo offending?

Does anyone find a scuplure by Michelangelo offensive?
I really don't know.



Then why did you mention it?

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Do you find pictures of guns offensive?
Yes, I think guns are as offensive as swastika's and alike.[/quote]
We don't allow swastikas in avatars.

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Because it has a history of caused grief and a future of causing grief, as it is the sole purpose of those.


So have many things, but that doesn't mean they become icons of that sort of thing.  For example, a cross would certainly be covered by that statement.

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why are you defending immature uses of avatars?
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If one wants to be that way, I think I'd be a hypocrite to condemn such a person, because I sometimes also want to state things with my avatar.


What, like "I like penises"?  Is that the sort of intelligent and insightful statement you want to make to other Amiga.org members at any point soon?  Nobody asked you to condone or condemn anything either, you're kind of advocating that people should have immature avatars to scream to the world that their sexual drive is working and they're proud of it and yet your shrugging your shoulders at the same time.
Title: Re: Posting guidelines updated : Avatar usage
Post by: on July 31, 2004, 12:23:40 AM
C'mon guys,

Please stop debating in this forum thread.

Wayne
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Post by: Colin_Camper on July 31, 2004, 12:25:34 AM
Have any of you guys read or seen 'The Crucible' by Arthur Miller.

PC Police are the new Witchmaster Generals!
Title: Re: Posting guidelines updated : Avatar usage
Post by: Colin_Camper on July 31, 2004, 12:26:46 AM
By the way my avatar is a completely neked picture of Fat Agnus!
Title: Re: Posting guidelines updated : Avatar usage
Post by: Speelgoedmannetje on July 31, 2004, 12:40:07 AM
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mikeymike wrote:
What, like "I like penises"?  Is that the sort of intelligent and insightful statement you want to make to other Amiga.org members at any point soon?

well, if I would have an avatar for some reason with that Michelangelo painting about the creation of Adam and the touch of god, or the Da Vinci painting with a man stretching his arms in a circle and a square, or to keep it short, a painting that has a certain expression but contains nudity because it was the habit of painters back then, and you want the particular expression to be your statement, but you can't because the painting causes offence to some who wash themselves once a year.

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Nobody asked you to condone or condemn anything either, you're kind of advocating that people should have immature avatars to scream to the world that their sexual drive is working and they're proud of it and yet your shrugging your shoulders at the same time.
I saw those avatars and I thought: so what, why should I care?