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The "Not Quite Amiga but still computer related category" => Alternative Operating Systems => Topic started by: wonea on January 30, 2003, 09:44:37 PM
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When is the latest MorphOS going to be released? I.e. become available for download! or buy!
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I don't know, but i'm interested.
I may buy a pegasos instead an amiga one (cause os4 relased date: 13th july 2298)
mmm
Now pegasos are running the old morphos release? :-o
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You get the latest version of MorphOS with every
Pegasos.
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That pretty much means all development is concentrated on the Pegasos, which means support for the dual CPU cards would poor, or even non-existent. Am I right?
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Ikir, if you buy a Pegasos then you probably won't ever be able to run OS4, even when it does finally come out. Just so you know.
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ARRGHHH!
I just want to use Morph OS, people can't even try it? Geez, you goto establish the market!
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Please don't flame me for this, it is just an observation but:
People keep on about the fact that OS4 is not available yet, but I can't buy MOS for my A1200PPC either.
MOS (at the moment) seems to only be available with the Pegasos, which seems to be in as short supply like the A1, and I assume the PPC'ed "Classics"; just as OS4 is only available to PPC "Classics" and the AmigaONE.
I suppose all I am saying is: is there any real difference between the two in terms of availability? Is one really better then the other? 8-)
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You are correct MorphOS has been quite unavailable for many weeks now.
Supposedly the bundling with pegasos boards is a temporary measure to drive up sales. But unfortunately, there are no boards for which sales can be driven up.
It will be a good thing when AOS4 is released, even if your in the MOS camp...I doubt it will make much sense to bundle only with a pegasos if you can buy aos for cyberstorm.
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I wonder when the next MOS release is coming. 1.1 or whatever. I'll be fine with 1.0 though. Just don't like the fact that it's in kinda "beta state".
Something that would ne nice is if someone got some PCI 1200/500 custom chip bords made, so that one could run 68k games and demos in MOS. :-D
I guess only the MOS development team knows.
If were lucky, maybe bbrv will fill us in on our questions.
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KennyR wrote:
Ikir, if you buy a Pegasos then you probably won't ever be able to run OS4, even when it does finally come out. Just so you know.
I know Kenny, I know. :-(
I'll wait OS4....
I should buy a "old" ppc 603. I should run both OS4 and MorphOS.
But pagasos is already in stores?
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I wish Elbox would release some more information about the release date of the various Shark models. It would be really sweet if that thing would run both. I plan on getting a pegasos for MOS, but my 1200T is dying for some PPC action (OS4 and/or MOS).
It's PokeMiga, gotta crash 'em all! :lol:
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"Now pegasos are running the old morphos release? "
If one buys pegasos now, it looks like they are shipped with BETATESTER2 version of MorphOS.
http://www.morphos-news.de/comments.php?lg=en&nid=200 (http://www.morphos-news.de/comments.php?lg=en&nid=200)
I think the question is "When will MorphOS ship." and I mean the 1.0 version.
Does anyone know what MorphOS version the MOS featurelist ei meant for? BT2 or 1.0 or what?
(featurelist is dated 12 Dec and the shipped BT2 is dated 13 Dec)
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> I may buy a pegasos instead an amiga one (cause
> os4 relased date: 13th july 2298)
correction, that's "launch" date, not release
:-D
Anyway I'm buying both :)
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@ksk
Does anyone know what MorphOS version the MOS featurelist ei meant for? BT2 or 1.0 or what?
Well, from what I saw on the list at morphos-news.de:
http://www.blachford.info/morphos/morphos-full-features-list.txt
seems to indicate that there may be a mixture. The top portion may be for the current beta version, while towards the end I saw an "under development list." Maybe one of the Morph guys can come on and give a definite answer?
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ikir wrote:
But pagasos is already in stores?
Hello ikir,
Yes, a new batch of Pegasos boards are shipped.
At least I got a confirmation from my dealer about this last friday.
But sometimes it's not the board that gives the delay!
I'm now waiting for my tower and memory to arrive!!
Spidey
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Spidey wrote:
Yes, a new batch of Pegasos boards are shipped.
At least I got a confirmation from my dealer about this last friday.
There seems to be a small conflict of information there. I remember reading that pegasos was sold out before christmas, and:
bbrv posted this 24 Jan:
Most importantly, we cannot ship the Pegasos if we cannot make it! We met with Mai at CES and Mai confirmed they will ship the old Articias to us. Once we get them we need to mount them on the April PCB and then the mainboard. We know there is plenty of frustration out there for those of you that want the Pegasos. They will be available again soon.
http://www.morphos-news.de/?lg=en&nid=199&si=1 (http://www.morphos-news.de/?lg=en&nid=199&si=1)
There might be also some interesting information in the comments section:
http://www.morphos-news.de/comments.php?lg=en&nid=199 (http://www.morphos-news.de/comments.php?lg=en&nid=199)
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ksk wrote:
Spidey wrote:
Yes, a new batch of Pegasos boards are shipped.
At least I got a confirmation from my dealer about this last friday.
There seems to be a small conflict of information there. I remember reading that pegasos was sold out before christmas,.........
Yes I know these messages.
That is why I called my dealer, now two weeks ago, and he said that a new batch was about to being produced in the following week (that is last week :-)) and that he was supposed to get a part of the batch this week.
But he mailed me on friday (last week) that he already got the boards!
And unfortunately for me he's now waiting for my tower and memory! (they're shipped at the beginning of this week but he hasn't got them yet)
Spidey
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Spidey wrote:
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Yes I know these messages.
That is why I called my dealer, now two weeks ago, and he said that a new batch was about to being produced in the following week (that is last week :-)) and that he was supposed to get a part of the batch this week.
But he mailed me on friday (last week) that he already got the boards!
And unfortunately for me he's now waiting for my tower and memory! (they're shipped at the beginning of this week but he hasn't got them yet)
Hmmm.... last friday was 24th of January... But OK. Then I would just say that bbrv knows even less about the status of pegasos than Ben H about the status of AOS4.... ;-) <- THERE is a smiley!
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Uuuh guys (and ladies :-)),
I've got to make an correction about the delivery of the next batch.
I just got a mail of my dealer explaining why I got his mail last friday. It turns out I'm getting a Pegasos board of the last batch!
So, I'm sorry for assuming about the new batch, though it did make sense how I came to that conclusion :-)
Spidey
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@ksk
Or perhaps they come from different supply streams?
It would be just as possible for Genesi to have considered
redirecting supply from one place to another, patched up
old boards or used returns to meet some of the demand to
stave off embarrassment.
Or it could be your dealer is telling porkies. Saying the boards
are here just waiting for the non Genesi stuff to stop you going
elsewhere...
Either way, looks like you are getting your board and "beta state"(?)
OS soon which is more than the rest of us are getting with
AOS4 and A1.
<-- twiddles thumbs and looks at ceiling
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Hi there!
Just a quick note (we can answer more thoroughly this weekend if needed -- we are just really busy today).
Pegasos info from December was accurate then. ;-) We made more boards after Aachen and then again in January, but these were in small quantities and went to Developers and a few "important" customers. We will be making some more boards next week -- still in tens, not hundreds. We won't produce any more large quantities until we receive the next shipment of Articias.
Concerning MorphOS...the OS comes with the Pegasos. This will be shipped as a bootable CD along with our DebianPPC distro and Mac-on-Linux. Today, we provide FTP access to all Pegasos owners for the latest updates. We did release a new ISO image just before CES.
All this is INCLUDED in the Pegasos purchase. In the future, we will sell MorphOS alone, but this will be a strategy primarily directed at Apple computer owners and be "hidden" under an application (probably a game), running from a CD (or a plug and play device) and NOT the host hard drive (no partitioning required). We will work something out for other PPC based platforms too. As mentioned here and on ANN we already had MorphOS running on the basic version of the A1.
Sincerely,
R&B :-)
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@bbrv
SCRATCH that, misread the last sentence ( added a not in ):
"We will work something out for other PPC based platforms too. As mentioned here and on ANN we already had MorphOS running on the basic version of the A1."
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Hello DaveP,
Or perhaps they come from different supply streams?
I really don't know.
Or it could be your dealer is telling porkies. Saying the boards
are here just waiting for the non Genesi stuff to stop you going
elsewhere...
I know this man for a long time now, and no, he isn't such a guy, just honest and straight.
(I know, in this world this sounds unbelievable and boring :-))
Spidey
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Cool.
As soon as someone has them in stock, I'll buy one. I was going to preorder, but thought better of it.
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Targhan wrote:
I wish Elbox would release some more information about the release date of the various Shark models.
I also want to buy a SharkG4 for my 1200. I hope that they will be OS4 compatible and relased of course.
99,99% wth a Shark you'll be able to run only OS4, not MorphOS.
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Concerning MorphOS...the OS comes with the Pegasos
Hmmm, and people complain about the fact that OS4 is only comming out on the AmigaONE. At least Hyperion is activley making a version to run on the Classic systems.
Sorry to sound so negative, having a bad day at work
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DaveP wrote:
@ksk
Or perhaps they come from different supply streams? ...
Yes. It sounds reasonable that some of those were boards that came in when people swapped from non fixed to fixed (April) versions.
... Either way, looks like you are getting your board and "beta state"(?) OS soon which is more than the rest of us are getting with AOS4 and A1.
Just to clarify: I am not getting anything untill it is clear what I will get if I buy something.
(I would prefer AmigaOS, but the life is short .... hurry up Hyperion ...)
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KennyR wrote:
Ikir, if you buy a Pegasos then you probably won't ever be able to run OS4, even when it does finally come out.
Well, I'm quite confident that - at last when OS4 nears completion - there'll be some third party which will get such an AI-licence, since it seems there are several users interested in OS4 for the Pegasos (me included) and Genesi on the other hand does not care for what one uses the Pegasos-boards once he has bought them.
That's why I - if OS4 would be my main aim - certainly wouldn't buy a, pardon, "LinuxOne" until OS4 will be actually ready. I'd just wait and see.
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>That pretty much means all development is
>concentrated on the Pegasos
No, the version for PowerUp boards is just only
available for internal developers/betatesters but has
the same features as the Pegasos version.
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Just to clarify: I am not getting anything untill it is clear what I will get if I buy something.
Puts official hat on:
OK, Right now we still have some issues with one of the components and aren't making sufficient Pegasos boards to meet demand. However this will be sorted out one way or the other shortly and we'll have the factory Churning them out.
With a nice new shiny Pegasos you'll get MorphOS and Debian Linux with MacOnLinux.
The aim is to ship MorphOS according to the Features list here:
http://www.blachford.info/morphos/morphos-full-features-list.txt
At the minute MorphOS is not feature complete so you'll get the latest version and will continue to get updates until the feature set has been completed.
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Note: There will be an update to the Features list in the not too distant future.
--
Nicholas Blachford,
Speaking for Genesi.
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I will probably buy the system which can run both MOS and AmigaOS 4.
@bbrw: any info if MOS 1.x is going to be released for BlizzardPPC? Is it?
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>any info if MOS 1.x is going to be released for
>BlizzardPPC?
MorphOS already runs on BlizzPPC (since public
beta 0.2/0.3 IIRC) so I see no reason why it shouldn't
be released for it :)
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I know, haven't been eager to try the early version though.
I'm interested in every detail since I'm a Mediator user, and AFAIK, MOS supports only G-REXX and CGX systems, maybe AGA?
BTW: sorry for spelling "bbrv" wrong. :-(
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According to swedish distrubitor GGS-data: "Moderkort + CPU-kort + MorphOS v1.0 CD + MorphOS T-shirt (så långt lagret räcker)."
In english "Mobo + CPU + MOS1.0 + T-Shirt". So it seems the peg is shipping with 1.0 then. Not BT2. But don't blame me if it isn't correct.
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But i must say the current install guide confuses me: "In order to get the current MorphOSboot-CD-Image you should log in the provided Betatester II FTP Server and download the latest version."
That means you could be right about BT2... :-(
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Hi Bill,
As mentioned here and on ANN we already had MorphOS running on the basic version of the A1.
When (if ever) will A1 owners be able to buy a copy?
Cheers,
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If MOS would be usable on A1 before OS4...now that would be some irony :-D
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Mr_Capehill wrote:
If MOS would be usable on A1 before OS4...now that would be some irony :-D
Well, if it was already running on an A1, I don't see the problem in getting it out before OS4, which appears to be miles off.
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@Wilse, I guess that none of us is a beta-tester so we can't know. Damn NDAs...
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Mr_Capehill wrote:
@Wilse, I guess that none of us is a beta-tester so we can't know. Damn NDAs...
Very true.
My opinion or best guess, which I admit is based on nothing more than circumstancial and gut feeling, is that MorphOS won't be released for A1, not because it won't run but for a business reason of some sort.
I hope I'm wrong, and am open to correction, as it would make a great impact in time between most A1's arriving and OS4's 'release'. (As opposed to 'launch' :-P )
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I guess it would be another PR victory for Genesi. (T-shirts given free vs AI couldn't send prepaid shirts, Genesi general support, AI's what?).
Personally I hope the best luck for both of them. I also hope that AI would add support, or maybe even Eyetech/Hyperion should come nearer to the community.
For example, free developer stuff for some software makers etc. Developer material in general (minus IDEs etc) should be free and available. Maybe even some contests could be arranged?
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Hi!
We will post some ideas along these lines (Mr_Capehill) and answer some of the questions here (the whole thread) this weekend.
Best regards,
R&B :-)
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When is the date for MorphOS for Apple computers?
I would be very willing to have a crack at running at beta.
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What?!!? No :flame: :-?
@BBRV appreciate the "official word".
@Ikar AOS4, MOS, who cares when it comes to plugging in a G3/G4 into an 1200? :-) The whole concept is just too geeky to pass up on! C'mon who doesn't want to say, "My computer is 10 years old and runs at ~500Mhz - 1Ghz!" Reminds me of my favorite reply to anything said of old Amigas, "You're lying, you computer can't do that!" :lol:
Gosh.. The old days... Remember when a PC couldn't print, be on a BBS, and unarchive a file at the same time? Heck, my current 950Mhz PC still can't be on the internet and burn a CD at the same time :-(
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zacman wrote:
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MorphOS already runs on BlizzPPC (since public
beta 0.2/0.3 IIRC) so I see no reason why it shouldn't
be released for it :)
- "we will sell MorphOS alone, but this will be a strategy primarily directed at Apple computer owners"
- Genesi does not sell HW for the classic Amigas
- it migh decrease pegasos sales
- it might divide R&D support efforts even further
- it lowers the lowest common nominator (or whatever), and it would make game developers work harder (see XBOX game deveopment vs harder PC game develoment)
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@Nicholas
I would like to get simple answers to the following:
- Does the MorphOS (that is currently being shipped to pegasos buyers) contain all those features/items that are mentioned in the featurelist (exluding those that are said to be in development in the featurelist)?
(I think it should, if you guys sell it with pegassos and refer to the featurelist. Or you should update your website accordingly (IMHO).)
- People seem to have got BT2 package untill now, when will the 1.0 (or the next version) ship?
(a little while ago it was said at pegasosppc.com that BETATESTER version is not good enough for end users)
@any official Genesi guy with the information
I would also like to see clarifications to these:
" In the future, we will sell MorphOS alone, but this will be a strategy
primarily directed at Apple computer owners and be "hidden" under an
application (probably a game), running from a CD (or a plug and play
device) and NOT the host hard drive (no partitioning required)."
- So you are NOT planning stand alone MophOS version for Apple computers, are you?
"we will sell MorphOS alone, but this will be a strategy
primarily directed at Apple computer ... We will work
something out for other PPC based platforms too."
- How about CSPPC and BPPC owners. Will they be able to get MorphOS1.0 as a stand alone installation (not needing to buy things like smart card reader with it)?
- If so, will it happen during this year?
- And will CSPPC/BPPC+Mediator users be supported?
" As mentioned here and on ANN we already had MorphOS running on the basic version of the A1."
- Does the basic A1 mean the TeronCX or a AmigaOneSE with the special ROM?
- Do you plan to release stand alone MorphOS1.0 for A1 boards?
- If so, will it happen during this year?
- Do you plan to release stand alone MorphOS1.0 for TeronCX/PX boards?
- If so, will it happen during this year?
Something else:
- Is Genesi planning to open up CPU slot specs to third party CPU card manufacturers?
- Genesi seems to be planning to do a lot of things at the same time (PDA, CPU cards, Pegasos2, STB, server and traditional Thendic products). Most need a totally new HW and a lot of new SW. How are you going to manage to handle the huge R&D work amount?
(I wish you would not promise things that are unrealistic, see what AI did and pissed off the community.)
- Are you going to get your numerous web pages updated anytime soon? For example the pegasos information at your eclipsis pages are highly missleading, currently.
- When will MorphOS be able to run memory protected applications in the Q-Box?
- Are printed manuals planned for MorphOS / pegasos?
- What kind of CPU cards are planned to be shipped during this year?
- Will there be L3 cache on pegasos CPU cards during this year?
- Will there be SMP support in the MorphOS during this year?
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About the featurelist:
- should there be floppy support in the in development/planned section?
- There's OS Components in the TOC of the document, but there is no such chapter in the body of the doc.
- It would be nice if available features (like the currently usable kernel features) were more clearly said in the document.
- It would also be nice if things like "distributed computing" and "Clan/Chief model" would be explained in a little bit more words.
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Jumpship said:
I'm having a bad day
YOUR having a bad day !!
Look where I've been "playing"
(http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38762000/jpg/_38762681_lorries150.jpg)
A14 Cambridgeshire closed
:-o :-o :-o :-o :-o :-o
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@The_Editor
Good Lord! You need a :pint: after that!
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Damn right !! :-D
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@the_editor
I feel for you man!
My house mate has a friend who was caught up in all that, spent the night in his car freezing. Fortunatly he had a thick coat in the back of his car because of the cold weather so he didn't freeze, but his ears were a bit chilly!
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OK I'll try and answer what I can but I'm not party to everything thats going on and on some fronts final decisions have yet to be taken.
- Does the MorphOS (that is currently being shipped to pegasos buyers) contain all those features/items that are mentioned in the featurelist (exluding those that are said to be in development in the featurelist)?
(I think it should, if you guys sell it with pegasos and refer to the featurelist. Or you should update your website accordingly (IMHO).)
- People seem to have got BT2 package until now, when will the 1.0 (or the next version) ship?
(a little while ago it was said at pegasosppc.com that BETATESTER version is not good enough for end users)
As I said the features list is what we're working towards and what you'll get, but maybe not quite right now. MorphOS is at this point aimed at more advanced users who have a reasonable idea of what they're doing.
- How about CSPPC and BPPC owners. Will they be able to get MorphOS1.0 as a stand alone installation (not needing to buy things like smart card reader with it)?
- If so, will it happen during this year?
- And will CSPPC/BPPC+Mediator users be supported?
We do plan to ship MorphOS for CVPPC and BPPC but there are problems with some cards which may never be solved simply due to time and resources. This is a potential support nightmare and is the explanation why nothing beyond an old beta has ever been released for those cards.
Mediator - No plans at this minute, highly unlikely to change.
- Does the basic A1 mean the TeronCX or a AmigaOneSE with the special ROM?
- Do you plan to release stand alone MorphOS1.0 for A1 boards?
- If so, will it happen during this year?
- Do you plan to release stand alone MorphOS1.0 for TeronCX/PX boards?
- If so, will it happen during this year?
I don't think a final decision has been made on support for either the A1 or the Teron Boards but given the problems we've had with the Articia on our own board it's debatable if we could get MorphOS to work properly on other systems without the same hardware fixes. But as I said there's yet to be a final decision.
- Genesi seems to be planning to do a lot of things at the same time (PDA, CPU cards, Pegasos2, STB, server and traditional Thendic products). Most need a totally new HW and a lot of new SW. How are you going to manage to handle the huge R&D work amount?
(I wish you would not promise things that are unrealistic, see what AI did and pissed off the community.)
Ever wondered why we are hiring ;-)
There is a lot to do and it needs very careful management to keep on track. That's why we've brought in an experienced management team from Crossbee.
Don't expect everything to appear at once...
- Are you going to get your numerous web pages updated anytime soon? For example the pegasos information at your eclipsis pages are highly missleading, currently.
Yes, a whole new web structure is being developed.
Why do you think the Eclipsis pages are misleading?
Other questions:
Q-Box: Don't hold your breath.
SMP: Needs Q-Box.
CPUs: This is sometimes beyond our control e.g? A CPU we wanted to use for one project was recently delayed. Also some CPU suppliers tend to be vague at the best of times.
Features list:
Better Explanations - It's just a features list, not a book, do you want the team to be producing the features or just writing about them?
Some things may be implemented and used in the system but not available to developers and/or users, these are features but there's little point elaborating further.
To all other questions the answer is one of:
A) I'm not sure,
B) I don't know,
C) I do know and I'm not telling you ;-)
Hope this Helps.
Nicholas Blachford
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Good job Nicholas!
Here is something to think about this weekend concerning Morph-on-Mac... We have two strains of thought and we are discussing the virtues of each approach.
1. Target pre-nvidia PPC Macs
2. Target the newest sytems
Bring life back to "old" systems or stay with the market...
What do you think?
Thanks for the feedback.
Sincerely,
R&B :-)
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Hello,
bbrv wrote:
1. Target pre-nvidia PPC Macs
2. Target the newest sytems
Well in fact Apple seems to always use ATI also (look at the latest PowerMacs, they are using both ATI Radeon and NVidia (depending of the model).
So I think it'll be needed to at least support ATI (the easiest as there are ATI Radeon driver already for MorphOS IMHO) and at best support ATI and NVidia.
And yes IMHO the recent systems should be targetted (Radeon iBooks, Radeon and NVidia Powerbooks, Radeon and NVidia PowerMacs, NVidia iMacs, NVidia eMacs). But I think this will need lot of work :( Maybe targetting the laptops first would be better as this is more interesting than desktop machines as there is already the Pegasos for that :)
Regards
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We just posted this on another thread, but it seems relevant here too.
...we are thinking that the whole "value" proposition is changing. With the emphasis on the speed of the CPU and the size of the memory, the computer became an end in itself and not a means to an end. While being a “fashion statement” could also be enviable (we actually saw a 50+ year old wearing a mobile in a designer case on a colorful cord around her neck recently), to the market we are targeting this is not yet our ambition. G3 or G4? Who cares! What can you do is the issue (G-Force does not sound too bad though). How about a “G”bit Ethernet channel (or three in the northbridge)?
Seriously, the domination of Windows and the “personal computer” itself have pushed the average user away from understanding what is really “under the hood.” Most computer users have a superficial knowledge of what makes what they do work and the relationship between “man and machine” ends at the GUI. OK, someday we need to deliver exactly that “simplicity” to the market, but today, we have to focus on niches. For example, there will not be memory protection in MorphOS for some time, but we are not targeting MorphOS at either the server or the desktop for the mass-market, so while this will come in the QBox, it is not a feature and consequently they are not markets we are focused on (for MorphOS). On the other hand, Debian and Gentoo users like the Pegasos very much and have different aspirations for the platform. We are hoping that the OpenBSD port attracts plenty of interest too. Our first strike in the market is toward “techies” and “geeks,” who know what they are getting into and want something different NOW. They are the artist/creator/engineer types that can write their own programs and still know how to make a computer, a television or a stereo do what they want it to do (at home with a soldiering iron if necessary!). Ultimately, it will be those people that help us carry the message to the masses, because they will have helped us create it.
And, one more thing about MorphOS...until we feel MorphOS has all the features in needs to be sold, it will not be. Anyone who buys a Pegasos will get it along free upgrades until then. When we feel it is ready, we will release it to a broader market. Will we do our best to provide "retro-support" too, but we cannot do everything at once and we are focused on the Pegasos for the moment. ;-)
Best regards,
Raquel and Bill :-)
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Thank you Nicholas for your straight answers!
((I think pegasos is currently the best HW option and after those answers I'm more sure that you manage to refine the OS as well.))
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Thanks ksk!
:-D
R&B
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I found it's a shame that powerup owner cannot have betters support to have morphos running on their systems.
I mean that powerup owner have shown their support, by buying a expensive product, to help the developpement of a ppc system.
So, knowing that morphos could be bought for their machine but that cannot be sure if it happen or when because there's no ressource effort to go in that way (while it so near) is really frustrating.
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There is?!
R&B
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>So, knowing that morphos could be bought for
>their machine but that cannot be sure if it happen
>or when because there's no ressource effort to go
>in that way (while it so near) is really frustrating.
I think you misunderstood Nicholas. The current
version of MorphOS is also available for PowerUp
cards, just not for public users yet. Because of
many external cards/drivers you have to support
(clockport, various PCI boards etc.) there is of
course more work and internal testing needed until
you can release it.
Please have also in mind that Mr Carda said in
Aachen that the version of MorphOS for PowerUp
cards will "probably be for free".
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>I think you misunderstood Nicholas.
Yes, sorry for that!
It look like I'm hurry! :-)
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That is right zacman! No problem bring!
:-D
R&B :-)
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The_Editor wrote:
Jumpship said:
I'm having a bad day
YOUR having a bad day !!
Look where I've been "playing"
Looks like a normal winter day?! I could drive my car there at 120km/h and no probs... :)
BBRV: Could be nice if there was a customer version of MorphOS available for BPPC/CSPPC users. MorphOS (A/Box) is not complete or ready yet in full but it is hell lot faster than 68k AmigaOS. I think many Amiga users would like to test and use MorphOS there.
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itix wrote:
Looks like a normal winter day?! I could drive my car there at 120km/h and no probs... :)
It's just those Englismen.. can't handle inch of snow and 2 degrees bellow freezing without hassle. :-o
BBRV: Could be nice if there was a customer version of MorphOS available for BPPC/CSPPC users. MorphOS (A/Box) is not complete or ready yet in full but it is hell lot faster than 68k AmigaOS. I think many Amiga users would like to test and use MorphOS there.
Those old systems are difficult target for both companies (Hyperion has announced support for BPPC and CSPPC based system, although their releases are quite imaginary at this point), so we'll apparently must wait and see what will happen.
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Those old systems are difficult target for both companies (Hyperion has announced support for BPPC and CSPPC based system, although their releases are quite imaginary at this point), so we'll apparently must wait and see what will happen.
Some people are going to have to choose depending on what hardware they have..
MorphOS: Doesn't support Mediator, supports Grex
AOS4: Supports Mediator, doesn't support Grex
At least, this is how it stands AFAIK.
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JoannaK Enthused
It's just those Englismen.. can't handle inch of snow and 2 degrees bellow freezing without hassle.
Women Always got SIZE on the brain !! :-o
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