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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Marketplace => Topic started by: EnyGmaTiK on July 27, 2004, 11:58:02 AM
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I bought an A600 from e-bay paied and never get the miggy!
User: ttfreund79
E-mail: Schnucki798@aol.com
We've come to the agreement of prossessing the payment by bank tranfer but he couldn't get me a correct BIC code! So then he suggested payment by Postal Order. I've send the money and never got the Product! :pissed:
I've sent it to this address:
Anja Schulz
Paul-Seydel-Strasse 21
09212 Limbach-Oberfrohna
It's there anyway i could get my money back?
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Boa tarde,
Have you contacted ebay?
What is the feedback rating of the seller, value of the item etc?
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Bon Jour! :-D
I contacted e-bay and that Square deal thingie...
E-bay seems to care less... and Square Deal didn't manage to contact the seller...
The value is 30,95€ (with postage)
I keep sending thousand of mails without answer... :-(
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I keep sending thousand of mails without answer...
How long has it been since he stopped responding to email? The guy has only been registered since Jan 2004, but he has a flawless 103 positive(total), no neutral or negative feedback. Maybe he fell ill or is having internet problems? This just doesn't fit the MO of a typical scammer.
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Yes, I know... that is what trills me!
He never was much of a ' mail sender ' but he still replied to my mails... but he stopped responding to my mails a day or so before i sent the postal order at 08/07/04.
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Its possible that windows has died on his pc and he hasnt got it running yet ?. :-?
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amigamad wrote:
Its possible that windows has died on his pc and he hasnt got it running yet ?. :-?
I surelly hope so, but he was not been able to install it again in 20 days?... :-(
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@ EnyGmaTiK
It's Possible he is ill or died like redrumloa said. I hope not, but it's definitely possible...........don't give him bad feedback or anything..........just wait and see................If I were you, I would mail a letter to his house, with his name on the envelope as well as Relatives: for example:
to:
John Doe or Relatives
86-23 blah blah Ave
Kentucky Fried Chicken, Alabama 11324
that way if he is sick or dea, this can call the attention of any relatives there, and they can contact you to explain.
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Only for reasons of correctness, in Germany we distinguish between male and female first names.
Anja is the name of a she.
I guess she simply is too stupid to install all the Windows stuff again ;-)
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Right now we are in the middle of holydayseason so she might went on vacation ?
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Actually is a He, since his name is Thomas Schulze, he provided the address of one Anja Schulze for the postal order.
Holiday season or not, we are obligide to fullfill our duties... if this is the case i consider this a total lack of respect for the buyer...
I just hope this will ultimatly get resolved...
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What will i do then? Write him a letter? :-?
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there have been several nasty trojans and virus attacks recently, i had to format the wifes pc, then spend two days recovering mine from them, maybe he's been one of the unlucky ones?
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For a month?? :-?
Anyway... i surelly hope so... :pissed:
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Have you ever used a telephone before? I've had situations before, and a quick phonecall usually sorts it. If you are really worried, emails are just to indirect, and to be honest you are just fannying around. Get an awconfirm from ebay and phone him.
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The problem is ... i don't speak german THAT good....
But i guess i will do that...
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I bought something from a guy who had nearly 200x positives and he
turned out to be trading as a woman too. Ripped me off and the
previous account went NARU, no doubt he's done it to others too.
Sometimes feedback is not always a good indicator if you're going to
get conned.
I was told by eBay that because the item was below £15 that I wasn't
covered under their own policy. If I had used PayPal I would have
been.
The only option to take really is to get a summons form from your
local courthouse for the Small Claims Court. If the seller doesn't
respond to a summons the cops will go and drag them there!
:-D :-D :-D
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Update.
The telephone nr that the seller has in the seller's account is false, so i'm stuck... i gave him a neg. feedback and lost 30eur
Hurray for e-bay
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@EnyGmaTiK
I'm sorry to hear that:-( Did you file a fraud report with eBay?
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Things are so out of controll on ebay these days. It shows the true face of so many people out there. i've been ripped off no less then 10 times from people. Most of them using Paypal. All I accept now is a money order and personal checks sent registered mail so I can track them. I prefer a bank check since I can call the bank to verify funds.
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There's also many very good, competative & honest traders, too. It's proportional to buying/selling in person IMO, at least you've not bought a stolen car or something of that scale!
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redrumloa wrote:
@EnyGmaTiK
I'm sorry to hear that:-( Did you file a fraud report with eBay?
Yep, of course, 1 month ago, I even file a fraud report at that Square Deal thingie, they tried too to contact the seller without luck...
I've been involved in 15 transactions at ebay, and lost 60eur on two of them... i think i will avoid ebay in the next 20 years :pissed:
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Acill wrote:
Things are so out of controll on ebay these days. It shows the true face of so many people out there. i've been ripped off no less then 10 times from people. Most of them using Paypal. All I accept now is a money order and personal checks sent registered mail so I can track them. I prefer a bank check since I can call the bank to verify funds.
Hmm. I know it's possible to be screwed with a cashier's check, but I forget how... while calling first probably does help.
Personally, I prefer PayPal when buying, because I at least know the seller can't claim payment was lost (dragging things out past eBay's N day limit for complaints), and have a combination of eBay, PayPal, and Visa/MC to run screaming to if I do get hosed. (Making insurance an extra cost is rather lame, but at the same time, if I were blowing more than $100, I'd consider it...)
However, I'm just going to point out the converse: When a seller's not going to accept instant payment, I want to hear back a) when the payment is received, and b) when the item is shipped, preferrably by a trackable service so I can *know* it's really en route. Doing otherwise with expensive stuff just invites drama and the risk of tragedy...
...That said as I cross my fingers on a seller who seems legitimate, but has hopefully just been too 'green' to affirm a) without prompting, and rejected b) for his own convenience (fair enough for him to prefer the USPS's insurance for *his* protection, but it puts the buyer in a nasty, paranoid spot until the item actually shows, with no way to affirm trust if it does get lost in shipping).
[In other words, I accept my risk of getting screwed, but sellers, if you're going to be honest, remember to confirm that honesty to your customers so *they* won't get heartburn in the process! If this item doesn't show, I've got little choice but to jump on the guy whether or not he's done wrong... Whereas with UPS, I'd be able to see that they decided to route it through Tampa or something and lay off.]
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@Acill
How did you get ripped of with Paypal? Just curious.
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I've heard a few cases of PayPal fraud. One was a guy I bought some stuff from on ebay. He was a nice guy, invited me in for a cup of tea...anyway, he got a PayPal payment from a seemingly American user, but a shipping address in Estonia, before he had the chance to send the goods PayPal were in touch telling him not to do anything while they investigated.
i.e. they know its going on
edit: I forgot to say...always, always use a credit card if you can, cos then you've got the CC company on your side if you get ripped. All CC providers (at least in UK, dunno if its a legal requirement, or just 'the norm') offer lots of protection you probably didn't know about.
I got ripped for over 300 quid on ebay, but the CC company recovered the lot, bar the laughable 30 quid that PayPal gave me.
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I've tried finding the telephone number using www.telefonbuch.de (public phone directory of Germany), but there's nobody named Schulz in that street.
What you could try is finding out if the street really exists using www.map24.de - maybe it's a really short street, and you only have a few phone numbers to look for. If you're not lucky, the street and number is a big building with lots of people having the same address (it's not usual to add app#'s to the address in Germany).
There are phone directory CDs out there that allow reverse-lookups, so you could also try if the number you have has been assigned at some point, and try to contact the person that is was assigned to. Maybe there's a connection.
Schulz is a very common name in Germany. If this guy/girl intended to rip someone off, you'll have no luck using the name. 30EUR is not all that much, but you have the headers of the eMails, and those contain the IP address that the person was using at the time it was sent. All German internet providers have an obligation to store the IP address assignments for six months.
Jens Schoenfeld