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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: Jose on July 06, 2004, 09:07:19 PM
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I see some refered as A4000 keyboards others as A4/3/2000 keyboards, and yet others as A2000 ones.
Do all these exist or the first too are the same?
P.S. Yes, my A4000 despite working for sometime still has no keyboard doh!! :-)
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A2000 keyboards have a DIN plug, A4000 keyboards have mini-DIN.
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Hey 8-) Is that the only difference?!
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Well ....
A1000 KBDs come with a "telephone-plug" a special layout.
A2000A (and some early B) KBDs come in dark beige small F-keys and DIN-plug.
A2000B KBDs come in dark beige with the standard layout/keys and DIN-plug.
A3000 KBDs come in slighly brighter beige standard layout DIN-plug, but a slighly different case.
CDTV KBDs share the case with the A3000, only in black and with PS/2-plug.
A4000 KBDs also have the newer case, a PS/2-plug and should be in white (but are most likely in varying shades of yellow :-( ).
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I guess I couldn't ask more! 8-) Thx
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The A4000T have the same big DIN connector as earlier Amiga modells but in the same light shade as the A4000D. And also, at least later A4000T's, only say "Amiga" not "Commodore Amiga".
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Also, the CDTVs connector isn't quite the same as the A4000s connector, the pinout is different.
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Hi Kronos,
You forgot to mention the rare first issue Amiga 2000 keyboard with the RED Amiga keys. I am looking for one of these keyboards for my Amiga / Atari ST collection. If any of you guys have one let's talk (pmail me).
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The CDTV actually doesn't have a PS/2 connector though one that looks much like it... the "key" on the connector is in the center of the plug where a PS/2 connector have it's "key" more to one side.
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So what kind of keyboard I can connect to my Amiga CD32? Amiga 4000 keyboard?
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@Doomy
I own the said Amiga 2000 rare keyboard you speak of with the red Amiga keys. It sure is nice. :) No it's not for sale. I own two Amiga 2000's actually. The other one has the newer 2000 keyboard with green led.
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We also own one of those, a very nice feel to keyboard may I add.
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@purKKi
You can connect a CDTV keyboard to a CD32 or a 4000. All you have to do is open it up and reverse the wires on the outer most edges of the cable (I think 1 and 4) and you can connect an A4000 keyboard to a CDTV and a CD32.
The CDTV pinout on the PS/2 connector is the same........except its missing one unecessary pin. Its not shifted to the middle like someone said. I have a CDTV keyboard connected to my CD32. It works great and has a nice feeling to the keys like the A2000 keyboards or the A1000 keyboard which has soft keys, unlike the spring keys in the A600, A1200, A500, A3000 and A4000.
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TjLaZer wrote:
@Doomy
I own the said Amiga 2000 rare keyboard you speak of with the red Amiga keys. It sure is nice. :) No it's not for sale. I own two Amiga 2000's actually. The other one has the newer 2000 keyboard with green led.
Pleeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaasssssssseeeeeeee can we have a pic?
Pretty please?
:-)
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There were some differences in reset signal between various Amigas, sorry can't remember exactly which now.
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orange wrote:
There were some differences in reset signal between various Amigas, sorry can't remember exactly which now.
Big box Amigas handle the reset on the motherboard, the A500 handles reset in the keyboard itself.
You can convert an A500 keyboard to big box by removing transistor Q1. And vice versa, of course, if you happen to have the right kind of big box kbd. There are many revisions.
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PMC wrote:
Pleeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaasssssssseeeeeeee can we have a pic?
Pretty please?
:-)
That's impossible! ;-)
Perhaps this is the one? (http://www.amiga.org/gallery/photos/133.jpg)
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purKKi wrote:
So what kind of keyboard I can connect to my Amiga CD32? Amiga 4000 keyboard?
As someone mentioned, the CD32 keyboard port (labelled 'aux') is the same as the A4000 port (desktop at least - never had a 4000T).
I haven't actually plugged mine in to test it yet though, the CD32's a new purchase.
Martyn.
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As someone mentioned, the CD32 keyboard port (labelled 'aux') is the same as the A4000 port (desktop at least - never had a 4000T).
The T has a 5-pin DIN like the a2k/3k
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Jope wrote:
As someone mentioned, the CD32 keyboard port (labelled 'aux') is the same as the A4000 port (desktop at least - never had a 4000T).
The T has a 5-pin DIN like the a2k/3k
I wonder why? The 4000T was an AT machine wasn't it? Maybe that's got something to do with it.
Were there any CBM models released? I seem to recall there was going to be one before The End???
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Jope wrote:
The T has a 5-pin DIN like the a2k/3k
I wonder why? The 4000T was an AT machine wasn't it? Maybe that's got something to do with it.
AT as in Amiga Technologies or fitting a PC/AT case?
C= made them too, but not many. Amiga Techonologies made more.
I'd say it's because of the PC/AT compatible case.. AT motherboards used the 5-pin DIN too.
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Yep, they wanted to be fully compatible with the "standard" AT motherboard layout/dimensions. There are rumors that the case used for A4000T in the Escom days was actually originally a PC case which was "good enough" for the A4000T motherboard to fit in, with enough clearance space for the CPU board(s), as the 3.5" internal drive bay is ALWAYS in the way and needs to be sort of "specially" placed in order not to hit the CPU card.
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I was thinking Amiga Technologies, I figured CBM didn't bother using AT standard ports for other amigas (the 4000D for example - despite being in a PC case itself).
Are there many differences between the CBM & AT versions? I never seen that many pics of the 4kT.
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The A4KT motherboard is the same in C= and Escom units. Escom only made the ports modules themselves, IIRC. With Escom A4KT, you can tell this by looking at the writing on the motherboard (Commodore logo is present) and the ports modules (Amiga Technologies copyright). So originally, it was C= who decided on the AT form factor for the A4KT, and after producing about 200-300 units they went bankrupt, and Escom simply bought out the remaining stock of the parts, blank PCBs, and complete motherboards, and re-sold them in their own flavor.
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x56h34 wrote:
There are rumors that the case used for A4000T in the Escom days was actually originally a PC case which was "good enough" for the A4000T motherboard to fit in
I can substantiate that rumour. There was a 486 PC with the same case as the AT A4000T lying around in an electronics shop here in Stockholm a few years ago. If it weren't for the price, I'd have bought it for fitting my A4000D into.