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Description: ...there were the 8-bit wars! IMNSHO, the 6502 always utterly sucked compared to z80 and I defy anybody to prove otherwise :lol: Picture Stats: Views: 2060 Filesize: 39.94kB Height: 768 Width: 1024 Posted by: Karlos at January 27, 2007, 04:07:06 PM Image Linking Codes
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| Speelgoedmannetje Posts:9656 | October 26, 2007, 10:20:11 PM Quote
I think the amount of instruction comparison is quite comparable with the mhz myth. |
| KThunder Posts:1509 | July 26, 2007, 10:28:00 PM quote: Poster: bloodline Posted: 2007/4/18 19:44:22 I don't think Zilog made that many, I expect nearly all shipped Z80s were second sourced. Both my Zx81s have NEC Z80s. The Z80 just another example of how the 8086* architecture has managed to survive the test of time... *Well the Z80 was based on the 8086... zilog made millions and millions of z80s and dirivitives they are still making them now the z80 was actually a superset arch of the 8080 not the 8086. the 8086 is based on the 8080 as well. the 8080 was a messy three chip system that used two clocks and different voltages. the z80 was much cleaner and more powerful with more registers, better clock, ram refresh builtin ans single power setup |
| PMC Posts:2616 
| May 08, 2007, 11:29:42 PM I found a ceramic one with gold legs in the cellar of my old workplace (who used to write software for CPM systems way back when). Got to be worth something (no mil spec jokes please!)? |
| bloodline Posts:12113 | April 19, 2007, 12:44:22 AM I don't think Zilog made that many, I expect nearly all shipped Z80s were second sourced. Both my Zx81s have NEC Z80s. The Z80 just another example of how the 8086* architecture has managed to survive the test of time... *Well the Z80 was based on the 8086... |
| mick_aka Posts:116
| January 28, 2007, 02:02:38 PM I have an FPGA version sat around here somewhere, i was given it in a display box at a trade show :-) |
| Karlos Posts:16879 | January 28, 2007, 01:20:41 PM Incidentally, this was a genuine spare z80 from one of my old zx spectrums. Pity it was the SCS clone and not an original Zilog. |
| Karlos Posts:16879 | January 28, 2007, 11:39:53 AM Let's face it. The C64s were completely defined by their custom chips providing the sound, video and sprite handling. The CPU was by far the weakest component in them. The first generation Spectrums held their own against the C64 despite the fact the CPU inside it had to do absolutely everything. Had the C64 used a Z80, it would have been even better :-) |
| mick_aka Posts:116
| January 28, 2007, 02:55:17 AM @Matt H Nintendo's Game Boy, Game Boy Color, Sega GameGear and Master System used the Z80, not to mention Sinclair machines, Amstrad CPC and TRS-80. It is also used as the audio processor in the Neo-Geo and Mega Drive/Genesis. I think in the long term devices using the Z80 in all its forms have well outsold the 6502 imho. I mean the gameboy on its own shipped something like 80 million units, the game boy colour about 50 million. Add 30 million Mega Drives, 15 million Master Systems, 10 million Game Gears and god knows how many ZX-80,81 and Spectrums, hundreds of different midi interfaces, sat-navs, PDAs and a million neo-geos for good measure. You're comparing this to the C64, Apple II & Pet (yes i know there are more)which in total shipped about 20 million units worldwide. |
| InTheSand Posts:1766 | January 28, 2007, 01:26:38 AM Sales aren't necessarily a good indication of how good a product is! Just look at Microsoft Windows! :-) - Ali |
| Matt_H Posts:6412 | January 28, 2007, 12:07:53 AM Sales records of the C64 and other 6502 platforms seem to say differently... ;-) |
| InTheSand Posts:1766 | January 27, 2007, 11:34:18 PM Z80 definitely rules! :-) 6502: 3 instructions, half a register, 0.1MHz! Z80: tonnes of instructions, loads of registers, and a whopping great 3.5MHz in the ZX Spectrum! :-D - Ali |
| Karlos Posts:16879 | January 27, 2007, 11:22:43 PM 8, 16, 32-bit derivatives of the z80 are still in widespread use. They all kick the 6502's arse (and the arses of its children). Just look for the Z280, Z380, eZ80 etc. |
| clockmstr Posts:54
| January 27, 2007, 09:55:39 PM 16 bit derivatives of the 6502 are certainly still being used. The Z80 sucked, 6502 kicked it's arse!!! |
| mick_aka Posts:116
| January 27, 2007, 07:16:09 PM Z80 rocked! still have some of my old code around here somewhere. Im sure it's still being used in some modern devices! |