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Description: Another pic of my A1200 desktop, running winblows95 (pc-task) and Macintosh OS 7.something (shapeshifter). Same star trek theme. Can't believe how many system resourses this snapshot ate. :lol:
Picture Stats: Views: 2697 Filesize: 103.67kB Height: 768 Width: 1024 Posted by: kvasir at August 21, 2005, 12:39:51 AM Image Linking Codes
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| kvasir Posts:249 | November 21, 2008, 07:31:31 AM I'm using pc-task 4.40, and I believe it will use GFX cards directly rather than use its own c2p routines, though I'm still under straight AGA, so I wouldn't know. All the I/O port emulation is directly programmed into the software, so it only has direct acces to the 2 comm ports (1 of which is mapped to the mouse, the other the serial port), and the parallel port. It supposedly supports a goldengate card, allowing access to pc-compatable cards, but thats the only way I know of getting a network card to work. It's theoretically possible to establish a tcp/ip network over a null-modem, so using nullser.device and NullTCP along with an Amiga proxy server should in theory get windows online, though I've only used nullser to connect windows to Amiga/Macintosh terminal programs, and once attempted to get Amiga Explorer to work this way, and I used nulltcp when I was using my WinXP laptop as a proxy server before I had a pcmcia ethernet card for my 1200. Also, use an actual fat-16 formatted partition, not a hardfile, unless you plan on waiting 2 days for an installation. (I'm not exaggerating!) GFX wise, pc-task will only support AGA screen-depths, that is no more than 256 colors, and the Win95 svga drivers won't work with the emulated gfx hardware, and you'll be stuck with 640x400x16 resolution. If you can get ahold of an old windows 3.11 installation, it runs much much faster, about as responsive as it was intended to be, but of course any compatability tends to suffer for it. As far as alternatives, pcx never was able to run win95, though I believe there was a 68k version of either dosbox or bochs released, and that might actually work alot better than pc-task. Update ------ After upgrading the 1200 to a 1200T w/ Mediator, I've noticed PC-Task runs much more smoothly. Still slightly slower in windowed mode on the WB, not sure if this is because I'm not using a "PC" screen-type, or if the windowing environment is just eating more cpu cycles. Also Win 3.11 still boots ALOT faster, 95 leaves you waiting. The hardfile vs. partition seems outdated, as I've had faster results using a hardfile on an SFS partition, rather than a straight-up fat16 partition. Not sure why this is the case, though I still use partitions for convenience. Also, 32-bid IDE access is something PC-Task won't do, so any fat16 partitions need to be before the 4GB boundry. Probably alot easier just to format SFS and put a hardfile. Calmira (and variants) works pretty well, too, giving win3.11 a win95 to winxp feel. Unfortunately, there's no way for pc-task to see the other mediator devices (eg., my 100mbps ethernet card and soundblaster card). It can't see the SVGA card I have either, except for the Amiga API via P96. |
| Caius Posts:294 | November 20, 2008, 09:19:13 PM Cool! Very nice indeed. I can imagine Win95 must be dead slow, even on a 060. But I'd like a crack at this myself. Which version of PC-Task do you need? Will this work with Picasso96? What about network cards? |
| leirbag28 Posts:1793 
| September 17, 2006, 07:05:30 PM @SamOS39 You can Use Yahoo Instant Messenger, MSN Messenger and AOL Instant Messenger, and Gadu Gadu all on the Amiga Already! You dont need a PC! AmigAIM (AOL AIM) Jabber (Yahoo, AIM, MSN, IRC) AmiMSN (MSN) Epistula (MSN for OS4) Gadami = Gadu Gadu |
| kvasir Posts:249 | March 13, 2006, 08:38:14 AM Hello all again. have lots more screenshots @ my personal site |
| kvasir Posts:249 | November 07, 2005, 07:53:42 PM Also, when running win95 on its own screen, I've noticed a dramatic speed increase under AGA. With the cachesizeoverride tooltype set for the recomended value for win95, win3.1 boots instantly, and is roughly the same speed as XP on my AMD Athlon laptop. (I know, apples 2 oranges) So if I have software that'll work on 3.1, I like to boot into that instead. |
| kvasir Posts:249 | November 05, 2005, 05:31:00 AM I'm afraid you're right on that. I only use this set up to piss off mac and windows fans. (Though I admittadly find Macintosh fans a bit more agreeable, almost having an orphaned machine themselves.) The only practical use I have for running win95 on pc-task is for converting files to something the Ami can use, and cross-compiling dos-applications. (No windows compiler on pc-task partition. have bloodshed on xp-laptop, need to x-fer it in the future) The mac emulator runs fast as hell, except for c2p routines. (AGA only right now :-( ) The window was only capable of the 2 color display, but I believe winner-evd can do more, and will try it when I get my 1200 back out of hock. Even so, I only really play bolo (A cheesy tank game) and Diamonds (A really cool bouncy-ball-breakout with a twist game) on the mac. Oh, and how could I forget, risk! :-D (though the mac is still running off a hardfile.. need to run hd-toolbox after getting some more syquest cartridges) |
| cv643d Posts:1197 | October 27, 2005, 07:29:17 PM A slow 386 is a realistic expectation of the performance of PC-task on a fast Amiga. |
| MarkAshley Posts:319
| October 25, 2005, 02:53:23 PM I haven't used PC Task in a long while, but when I did it was with an 020 and it was slooooow. I imagine your 060 would provide a great speed boost. It would probably run well with Windows 98 installed. I don't know whether PC Task can take advantage of your graphics card. Perhaps somebody more knowledgeable could answer this question in the Software forum. You wouldn't be able to run XP on it as XP itself requires 128Mb of RAM. |
| SamOS39 Posts:357 | October 25, 2005, 02:23:12 PM cool cheers :-) Would it work well on my set up. Amiga 1200T - Blizzard 1260 - 64 mb RAM - 060 @ 50 mhz - CyberVision64/3D GFX Card ect..... i want to set it up on my Amiga so i can use things like MSN messenger and other PC stuff! Would it run WindowsXP or will i have to use Windows98 or something? :-? |
| MarkAshley Posts:319
| October 25, 2005, 11:20:27 AM PC-Task is an x86 emulator which allows you to run Windows on your Amiga. RDesktop is (presumably) a Remote Desktop client which allows you to view and control the desktop of a real PC across a network. |
| SamOS39 Posts:357 | October 25, 2005, 11:09:28 AM cool so pc-task is an emulater? is rdesktop an emulater? :-? |
| MarkAshley Posts:319
| October 11, 2005, 09:42:20 AM Windows is your b1tch :lol: |
| kvasir Posts:249 | October 05, 2005, 08:59:57 AM Yeah, it took awhile. Ordered out pizza while the thing was booting. would have been cold by the time the picture was taken. (Only 16mb) |
| kvasir Posts:249 | October 05, 2005, 08:58:43 AM Hey, sorry it took awhile to respond. Been busy. Its an A1200 68060 (blizzard), with 16mb fast. (2mb chip, of course) no gfx card, and a dataflyer scsi running a 230 ez syquest drive (with a pc-formatted cartridge with win95 installed), and some old cd-rom I got ahold of. Currently trying to modernize the thing. (more memory, tower, gfx card, possibly ppc it) |
| adonay Posts:1144
| August 21, 2005, 11:15:18 AM i bet it went fast that windows :lol: but its cool to see it has been done :-) adonay :-D |
| starf81 Posts:332
| August 21, 2005, 09:18:59 AM Nice! What is the configuration of your 1200? |