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Title: "MUI-OWB" for OS4 is now released
Post by: takemehomegrandma on September 01, 2011, 05:26:44 PM
The porting of Fab's webkit based browser (today known as Odyssey) to OS4 is now completed, and released as a public beta.

This port, known by the OS4 crowd as "MUI-OWB", brings version 1.9 of the browser to OS4, and the port was made by Kas1e. There might still be bugs present, and not all features are yet implemented, but Kas1e decided it was better to release it now "as-is", instead of waiting. Work will continue to iron out the bugs and finish the missing features, and then sync it with Fab's latest release of Odyssey, which currently is at version 1.14.

Download: http://os4depot.net/?function=showfile&file=network/browser/muiowb.lha
Title: Re: "MUI-OWB" for OS4 is now released
Post by: Matt_H on September 01, 2011, 06:46:45 PM
Excellent. My OS4 system just got boatloads more usable. I'll try it out tonight.
Title: Re: "MUI-OWB" for OS4 is now released
Post by: takemehomegrandma on September 01, 2011, 06:49:31 PM
More information is available here:

http://amigaworld.net/modules/news/article.php?storyid=6062

Some initial comments available here:

http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=34169&forum=32

This progress is really good news! :)
Title: Re: "MUI-OWB" for OS4 is now released
Post by: nicholas on September 01, 2011, 07:18:10 PM
A 68k port would be more interesting.
Title: Re: "MUI-OWB" for OS4 is now released
Post by: takemehomegrandma on September 01, 2011, 08:18:03 PM
Quote from: takemehomegrandma;657411
Work will continue to iron out the bugs and finish the missing features, and then sync it with Fab's latest release of Odyssey, which currently is at version 1.14.


For a hint of what improvements to expect as the port syncs with the latest Odyssey, you can always have a look at the history in the readme:

http://fabportnawak.free.fr/owb/owb-morphos-1.14.readme

:)
Title: Re: "MUI-OWB" for OS4 is now released
Post by: cha05e90 on September 01, 2011, 08:23:50 PM
Quote from: takemehomegrandma;657430
For a hint of what improvements to expect as the port syncs with the latest Odyssey, you can always have a look at the history in the readme:

http://fabportnawak.free.fr/owb/owb-morphos-1.14.readme

:)


It will be interesting to see the differences (speed, overall behaviour) between the MorphOS original and the OS4.1 port on my Pegasos II. :D
Title: Re: "MUI-OWB" for OS4 is now released
Post by: utri007 on September 01, 2011, 08:36:22 PM
nicholas: OWB for 68k amigas would be useable only with under UEA or AmiAthlon

Still modern broser for 68k amigas, only realistic possibility is Netsurf
Title: Re: "MUI-OWB" for OS4 is now released
Post by: takemehomegrandma on September 01, 2011, 08:53:57 PM
Quote from: cha05e90;657432
It will be interesting to see the differences (speed, overall behaviour) between the MorphOS original and the OS4.1 port on my Pegasos II. :D


Cool! "The same" SW on *the same* HW! :)

http://fabportnawak.free.fr/owb/owb-morphos-1.9.lha

:)

(Maybe you should wait for a more mature version from kas1e though? :) )
Title: Re: "MUI-OWB" for OS4 is now released
Post by: nicholas on September 01, 2011, 08:57:13 PM
Quote from: utri007;657434
nicholas: OWB for 68k amigas would be useable only with under UEA or AmiAthlon


That's why I want it.
Title: Re: "MUI-OWB" for OS4 is now released
Post by: amigadave on September 01, 2011, 11:00:25 PM
Quote from: Matt_H;657417
Excellent. My OS4 system just got boatloads more usable. I'll try it out tonight.

Give us a review of the improvements you notice, compared to the previous OWB for OS4 releases.

Nice to see some cooperation between OS4 and MorphOS2.x camps.

You are a great resource and asset Fab, and apparently a great human being too!
Title: Re: "MUI-OWB" for OS4 is now released
Post by: dreamcast270mhz on September 01, 2011, 11:10:50 PM
Fab, you are awesome. OS4 has gotten better for its users. Congrats guys
Title: Re: "MUI-OWB" for OS4 is now released
Post by: Duce on September 02, 2011, 12:26:48 AM
Good news, thanks much!  Will grab it and try it on my freshly installed u3 SAM 440ep.
Title: Re: "MUI-OWB" for OS4 is now released
Post by: HotRod on September 02, 2011, 12:39:22 AM
Quote from: amigadave;657448
Give us a review of the improvements you notice, compared to the previous OWB for OS4 releases.

Nice to see some cooperation between OS4 and MorphOS2.x camps.

You are a great resource and asset Fab, and apparently a great human being too!


+1 regarding the Fab comment.

I can give you my little review while you wait. First of all it feals faster in pretty much everything. The other thing is that the GUI is way nicer with bookmarks in the menu, sidebar, a good download manager which reminds of the one found in IBrowse, and GUI for everything regarding settings, handling cookies and whatever you would expect from a modern browser.

RAOWB on the other hand feals a lot more clunky, the few config options available are set by tooltypes, the tool for bookmarks opens a window with a list of URLs, and the menu options are for copy/paste text, zooming, open files localy and not much else. It feals like it got a long way to go before it's completed while with MUI-OWB it feals completed.

More speed + nice GUI = very nice browser. I've always loved IBrowse so how can I not like this? I enjoy using it more than for example Firefox on my PC (or any other browser for that matter) so I'm really happy right now.
Title: Re: "MUI-OWB" for OS4 is now released
Post by: wawrzon on September 02, 2011, 01:49:38 AM
as soon as someone ports it to aros we will get it on 68k for free.
Title: Re: "MUI-OWB" for OS4 is now released
Post by: spihunter on September 02, 2011, 01:51:24 AM
Will this run without the new update 3? of OS4?
Title: Re: "MUI-OWB" for OS4 is now released
Post by: Dragster on September 02, 2011, 01:54:57 AM
Quote from: cha05e90;657432
It will be interesting to see the differences (speed, overall behaviour) between the MorphOS original and the OS4.1 port on my Pegasos II. :D

I've done exactly that, I did a quick test this morning on my Peg II and found it to be pretty fast, faster than original release for MorphOS (Yep, I'm a MorphOS user as well). That's just a quick first impression...

Cheers,

Dragster
Title: Re: "MUI-OWB" for OS4 is now released
Post by: HotRod on September 02, 2011, 01:59:07 AM
Quote from: spihunter;657469
Will this run without the new update 3? of OS4?


No, there where changes made to MUI that comes with update 3, it won't work without them.
Title: Re: "MUI-OWB" for OS4 is now released
Post by: takemehomegrandma on September 02, 2011, 02:31:33 AM
Quote from: HotRod;657459
I've always loved IBrowse so how can I not like this? I enjoy using it more than for example Firefox on my PC (or any other browser for that matter) so I'm really happy right now.


+1

Wait for the OS4 port to mature! ;)
Title: Re: "MUI-OWB" for OS4 is now released
Post by: HotRod on September 02, 2011, 03:13:01 AM
Quote from: amigadave;657448
Give us a review of the improvements you notice, compared to the previous OWB for OS4 releases.

Nice to see some cooperation between OS4 and MorphOS2.x camps.

You are a great resource and asset Fab, and apparently a great human being too!


For those who haven't seen this, here is a video that compares RAOWB and MUI-OWB.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xq6zysdtJC8
Title: Re: "MUI-OWB" for OS4 is now released
Post by: klx300r on September 02, 2011, 03:56:29 AM
big thanks to Fab & Roman:drink::banana::drink::banana:....now to bring on Timberwolf too :)
Title: Re: "MUI-OWB" for OS4 is now released
Post by: HotRod on September 02, 2011, 04:53:47 AM
Quote from: klx300r;657481
big thanks to Fab & Roman:drink::banana::drink::banana:....now to bring on Timberwolf too :)


I'm thinking that they got a big job to do to make it feal as good and amiga-like as this. Will be interesting.
Title: Re: "MUI-OWB" for OS4 is now released
Post by: drHirudo on September 02, 2011, 05:30:17 AM
[youtube]akDtlzZ3zII[/youtube]

Very good, although still having some bugs here and there, it will surely replace my old OWB installation.
The download speed with MUIOWB feels slower than with IBrowse, but I downloaded from different websites on this video, which can be the reason.
Title: Re: "MUI-OWB" for OS4 is now released
Post by: Templario on September 02, 2011, 03:14:19 PM
Thank you kas1e for this browser and your time!
Title: Re: "MUI-OWB" for OS4 is now released
Post by: nicholas on September 02, 2011, 03:20:04 PM
Quote from: wawrzon;657467
as soon as someone ports it to aros we will get it on 68k for free.


Do you know if anyone is working on it yet?
Title: Re: "MUI-OWB" for OS4 is now released
Post by: Karlos on September 02, 2011, 09:53:15 PM
It's great to see developers being more open-minded than some of the end-users :)

I'll look forward to trying this out later.
Title: Re: "MUI-OWB" for OS4 is now released
Post by: wawrzon on September 02, 2011, 10:31:56 PM
Quote from: nicholas;657525
Do you know if anyone is working on it yet?


not that i know, alas.
Title: Re: "MUI-OWB" for OS4 is now released
Post by: redfox on September 03, 2011, 12:02:29 AM
Posting using "MUI-OWB" for OS4.  The general operation reminds me of IBrowse.  I like the download progress window and setup features.  I am currently using the fonts that come with OS4.

Thanks to all involved.  I have some more web sites to visit.

---
redfox
Title: Re: "MUI-OWB" for OS4 is now released
Post by: HotRod on September 03, 2011, 02:05:33 AM
Quote from: takemehomegrandma;657473
+1

Wait for the OS4 port to mature! ;)


You can bet that I will follow this every step on the way :-) . I thought that it would be good but you can't understand how good it is untill you use it I think.
Title: Re: "MUI-OWB" for OS4 is now released
Post by: klx300r on September 03, 2011, 02:17:18 AM
Quote from: HotRod;657487
I'm thinking that they got a big job to do to make it feal as good and amiga-like as this. Will be interesting.

you might be right on that but it's damn great to have options for a great modern browser under AmigaOS:)
Title: Re: "MUI-OWB" for OS4 is now released
Post by: Matt_H on September 03, 2011, 03:48:47 PM
Quote from: Matt_H;657417
Excellent. My OS4 system just got boatloads more usable. I'll try it out tonight.


Couple days late in getting this tested, but, wow! To everyone involved, excellent work! Looking forward to seeing this fully in sync with the MorphOS version.
Title: Re: "MUI-OWB" for OS4 is now released
Post by: fishy_fiz on September 05, 2011, 06:30:20 AM
Quote from: nicholas;657423
A 68k port would be more interesting.


+341

Seriously though, Id love a better browser for my amithlon box. Between Aweb, Voyager, IB, Netsurf and existing OWB (which is acually semi usable (albiet requires pages to load before you can interact at all)) a person can almost make do, but making do isnt always a lot of fun :)

An updated browser for "real" 68k amigas would be great to have as well, but less likely to happen given how heavy a lot of web content is these days (ergo the tech. behind it requires more grunt than a real 68k amiga can provide). Something a bit more modest should still be doable, but I dont think fab's OWB is the best option for that.