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Re: Another try: Future of AROS? (yes AROS only)
« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2003, 09:11:43 PM »


Nice thing about AROS, it can run on standard PC hardware (as well as the Pegs in a month or two).  I think this gives AROS (that and it's open source, it can never taken away from us by any companies' bankruptsy) a strong survival capability.  It may not have flashy boingball, but that hasn't been worth while logo in years.

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Re: Another try: Future of AROS? (yes AROS only)
« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2003, 09:21:39 PM »
Is there going to be UAE for AROS?
 

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Re: Another try: Future of AROS? (yes AROS only)
« Reply #16 on: October 26, 2003, 09:23:03 PM »
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Is there going to be UAE for AROS?


There already is!! What we need now is AROS for UAE :-)

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Re: Another try: Future of AROS? (yes AROS only)
« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2003, 09:26:16 PM »
by Paul_Gadd on 2003/10/26 16:21:39

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Is there going to be UAE for AROS?


UAE for AROS was done awhile ago. =)

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Re: Another try: Future of AROS? (yes AROS only)
« Reply #18 on: October 26, 2003, 10:38:51 PM »
Speaking of UAE, there is aTeamAROSbounty (#7) forming to get some intergration of UAE for 680x0 apps.  Final requirements are still be hashed out.

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Re: Another try: Future of AROS? (yes AROS only)
« Reply #19 on: October 26, 2003, 10:54:26 PM »
@Bloodline

Not flaming here, just curious...

What can AROS on the Pegasos provide that the A-Box can't?  I can see how you can argue that AROS on the AmigaOne is maybe better than AmigaOS4, because you can do things the "old-fashioned way" and have PPC-native code (I'm not saying that the new interface-based approach is worse, I'm saying that one could argue that it is).  But on the Pegasos the line is a lot blurrier, because the A-Box (at least to me, I could be wrong) seems to be very similar to AROS in concept (I know, in reality it's built on top of Quark, but as far as the A-Box programmer is concerned, that's supposed to be pretty much invisible).
 

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Re: Another try: Future of AROS? (yes AROS only)
« Reply #20 on: October 26, 2003, 11:09:21 PM »
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@Bloodline

Not flaming here, just curious...

What can AROS on the Pegasos provide that the A-Box can't?  I can see how you can argue that AROS on the AmigaOne is maybe better than AmigaOS4, because you can do things the "old-fashioned way" and have PPC-native code (I'm not saying that the new interface-based approach is worse, I'm saying that one could argue that it is).  But on the Pegasos the line is a lot blurrier, because the A-Box (at least to me, I could be wrong) seems to be very similar to AROS in concept (I know, in reality it's built on top of Quark, but as far as the A-Box programmer is concerned, that's supposed to be pretty much invisible).


Well the ABOX is based on AROS :-) . I think the MOS solution is probably the "better one" (TM), but I don't find it as exciting as AROS.

Both systems have to tackle the same problems, so both will be very similar. I just prefer the Opensource nature of AROS too...

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Re: Another try: Future of AROS? (yes AROS only)
« Reply #21 on: October 26, 2003, 11:39:30 PM »
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UAE for AROS was done awhile ago.


Thanks, very interesting indeed, will download a iso and have a go.
 

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Re: Another try: Future of AROS? (yes AROS only)
« Reply #22 on: October 27, 2003, 12:27:59 AM »
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Thanks, very interesting indeed, will download a iso and have a go.


Mind you, the settings can't be changed via GUI as of now, you have to use a configuration file as it is used on linux (with the exceptions that you need to use AmigaOS-style paths for the file names), but it has to be put in the current directory (that is, the directory in which you are when you start UAE, not any other directory): I know all this is messy, but I've not had time to work on it any more since some time.

Ah, of course you'll have to find a way to access a kickstart ROM and the operating system/games from inside AROS :-)
 

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Re: Another try: Future of AROS? (yes AROS only)
« Reply #23 on: October 27, 2003, 12:51:04 AM »
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i use WInUAE but if AROS let me boot from a CD then i could better use the hardware. if AROS, or MorphOS or OS4 was made for use on handheld devices, this would be great!

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Re: Another try: Future of AROS? (yes AROS only)
« Reply #24 on: October 27, 2003, 01:19:11 AM »
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don't make assumptions. I have NEVER had any such "divisions" in my mind. anything that lets me use any kind of amiga OS in any way on any hardware is GOOD. period.


Did i talk about u at all?  :-P
U perfectly know there has been some ugly fist fights over the last year between Amiga and MorphOS followers

Its not an assumption its the fact. period  :-P
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Re: Another try: Future of AROS? (yes AROS only)
« Reply #25 on: October 27, 2003, 01:23:06 AM »
That's true but your statement could have been misunderstood as meaning that everyone was involved in this division. I, for one, am not, and quite a few others think the infighting is petty...
 

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Re: Another try: Future of AROS? (yes AROS only)
« Reply #26 on: October 27, 2003, 02:13:31 AM »
I think AROS is just a great opensource alternative, just because it is the only AmigaOS like open source alternative! :-D

It's great to actually see, and be able to edit the code for this type of OS. And some people are just getting sick of Linux/BSD.

Oh, and good news about AROS for A1! :-) I'm sure they will really appreciate that! ;-)
 

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Re: Another try: Future of AROS? (yes AROS only)
« Reply #27 on: October 27, 2003, 02:16:15 AM »
I agree - I suspect that if anyone took the trouble to look at the archives over the past couple years, he'll discover that it's about 10-15 people making 90% of the bad noise.  I suspect these troublemakers are a lot more concerned about pushing people's buttons than pushing the platforms they advocate.  The real problems start when these people start provoking normally reasonable people, then the whole thing starts getting really ugly.
 

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Re: Another try: Future of AROS? (yes AROS only)
« Reply #28 from previous page: October 27, 2003, 10:21:01 AM »
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Ah, of course you'll have to find a way to access a kickstart ROM and the operating system/games from inside AROS


Which is the great Irony of using UAE in AROS :-D

Untill the AmigaClassic version of AROS is up to spec, users will have to provide a genuine Amiga Kickstart ROM file.