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Re: Morph OS license questions
« on: February 02, 2011, 09:42:27 PM »
Quote from: runequester;611924
Hopefully one of the people involved frequents here, as I aren't keen on signing up for another forum just yet.
 
1: I've seen mentioned that if the machine croaks, the license can be transferred. What exactly is involved in this process?
 
2: Any provisions for transferring a license to a newer machine?
F.x. I buy a G4 powermac, and later get a mac mini
 
3: Any other benefits of registering other than losing the 30 minute slow down limit?
 
4: How sensitive is the license to swapping equipment? F.X. RAM or video cards
 
 
Thanks in advance!

1*- provide valid evidence that the maschine got broken, then you get a new license.

2 - w/o breaking the maschine a license transfer is not an option, hence no fees for that. If the maschie got broken I guess the new license will be issued for free. Dunno if it happend yet. For "license transfer" best is to sell the maschine with the license off and take the money. Depending on market demand this can be a better or a worse trade. But it is the most feasible.

3 - no. demo is 100% identical to reg'd version.

4 - not sensitive at all. The license key is bound to the mainboard MAC adress, swapping cpu mudul, RAM, gfx et al. doesn't matter at all.
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Re: Morph OS license questions
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2011, 10:36:22 PM »
Quote from: Franko;611938
I don't mind paying for it but when it comes to being told things like you need to prove your machine is broken, when you sell your machine you need to take it off etc... then I'm afraid that's a big No No to me... :(

If I pay for something I expect to be able to do with it as I please and not be told what I can and can't do with it... :(

Nothing against MorphOS as I was really getting very interested in it but when it comes to that kind on stuff then I'd rather not bother... :)


The maschine binding is probably not ideal from a user's POV. But it is not that big issue tehn again. If your maschine goes kaputt - you get a new license.
If you want to upgrade, sell teh old maschie with license off. May lead to a little loss, but that's it. Before registering you have enough time to evaluate it. The demo version is 100% identical to the reg'd version except that it will slow down after 30 min (a warning is issued a minute before) and you have to reboot. But I agree, ideal for the user is a version wothout keys at all. But then again it is about fairness. There's a trade off between cnvenience and ROI for the development. Difficult to balance, though.

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Re: Morph OS license questions
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2011, 10:42:43 PM »
Quote from: Piru;611947

When you install a new release over old one the installer presets options to upgrade (default) or to perform a new install. Old settings and installed applications are preserved on upgrade (this is possible because MorphOS has a separate directory for the OS components, allowing safe upgrading of the components).
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Which really works well. On my Efika I did 7 updates and never lost my settings. On my Mac mini the updates also went fine (but were fewer, since support for that maschine was introduced with 2.4).

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Re: Morph OS license questions
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2011, 10:46:24 PM »
Quote from: Franko;611966
@ zylesae

I was (possibly still am) looking to try MorphOS for myself but when it comes to these licence things then I have my doubts. It's nothing to do with money as I would be quite happy to pay if I found that I liked it. However you do say it has an evaluation period so that sound good to me... :)

(interest re-kindled... :))

I fully understand your concerns. I myself am also not too happy with that system, but eventually I accept it since it seems the most fair one.

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Re: Morph OS license questions
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2011, 11:05:58 PM »
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For me it's a big deal, big enough to stop using MorphOS after 7 years. I don't mind paying for a license, as a matter of fact I did.

I don't want to be bothered by selling my computer with a registerd MorphOS copy just to upgrade to a better computer or convince the MorphOS team my computer is broken. I just want to buy better hardware if available and supported by MorphOS and use my registered MorphOS copy on that.

As long as that restriction exists I'm not going to invest in MorphOS again.


It is everyone's choice. But if I do the calculation for my Efika I cmae down to as little as 3.58 EUR/month. So even if I sold the maschine today and the share of the MorpHSO license would be only 35 EUR (less than 1/3 of the original price) MorphOS would have costed me less than 2.50 EUR/month. My Win XP license from the same time may be transferred to another maschine, but is outdated already (my MorphOS license is still the most recent one). It is written off after this time. And so is MorphOS. After all effectively MorphOS may be cheaper than a Windows OEM license. This is better handeled with some business calculation instead of principles and feelings. But nobody is forced to buy a license. It is a clear deal: take it or leave it.

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Re: Morph OS license questions
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2011, 11:18:51 PM »
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That calculation is very nice and all but I don't use Windows, I'm a Linux user so that nice calculation doesn't fly with me. I took the leave it option, sadly no more MorphOS skins and occasional ports from me.


I think you should consider AROS for your Amiga fix then - also a fine choice. ;-)

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Re: Morph OS license questions
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2011, 12:52:49 AM »
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And if he wants to keep the hardware to run OSX, Linux, *BSD or whatever?

Rather academic and unlikely. The hw MorphOS runs on *is* already outdated and cheap. A Powermac goes for really little money and its worth is not really increasing over time. Or to say it that way: most of these computers are more or less worthless marketwise. There is not much to lose. If you happen to ditch your MorphOS installation on a Powermac and desperatle have the desire to run BSD on such a device, sell the reg'd maschine and buy another non reg'd one   - you'll get a good share of the registration fee back.
And honestly - how often do you change your Amiga? Well, I bought somewhen in the nineties an A1200, 2002 as  successor a Pegasos, 2008 as successor a Mac mini G4 - those devices are really written off. Life is too short for hindering principles (bit bold statement though, but there is some truth in it).

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Re: Morph OS license questions
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2011, 08:52:10 PM »
German tax system is probably the most complicated and one of the worst of all countries. It's a major hassle to do anything with the tax here...

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Re: Morph OS license questions
« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2011, 11:13:13 AM »
Quote from: runequester;614111
yeah, most people are fine with arbitrarily paying more money, based on where they live.
 
As far as the licensing, either you care about user freedoms or you don't. Given that Microsoft and Apple are the business models being emulated here, I am guessing they don't.


Paying the tax secures stability of the Euro. If the Euro would fail the rest of the world would get flooded by cheap European producs and US producs won't sell at all. German finance ministery and Mrs Merkel are doing it all for the world econonmy ;) .
Buy MorphOS - save world econony ;)