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Re: MorphOS license from old to newer system?
« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2010, 01:03:42 PM »
I'd have more than a mild interest in MorphOS if there was the possibility to buy multiple licenses at a discount rate.

Old machines die all the time, and many people have more than one of 'em.
 

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Re: MorphOS license from old to newer system?
« Reply #15 on: July 21, 2010, 02:32:52 PM »
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6) Relatively more hazzle when updating, and when reselling the system, since you would have to change registration data (I assume that this *is* possible?).

This is actually pretty easy for OS4. You can "unregister" your copy through Hyperion's site and the new owner can then re-register it with the same code as if it were a new copy.

With a second-hand MorphOS machine, you'll have full functionality and upgradability out of the box, but you'll need some manual intervention from the Dev Team to put the keyfile in your name.

Six of one, half-dozen of the other. Not sure what's better in this respect.
 

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Re: MorphOS license from old to newer system?
« Reply #16 on: July 21, 2010, 04:05:12 PM »
The question for me is this:

When Genesi cease trading or lose interest, and your machine dies, what do you do then? Seems to me you have a pretty doorstop.
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Re: MorphOS license from old to newer system?
« Reply #17 on: July 21, 2010, 04:13:57 PM »
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When Genesi cease trading or lose interest, and your machine dies, what do you do then? Seems to me you have a pretty doorstop.
Genesi has absolutely nothing to do with MorphOS licensing.

If the MorphOS Team would for some reason totally quit some day (I don't see that happening anytime soon) I'd imagine we'd release the MorphOS free for all then.
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Re: MorphOS license from old to newer system?
« Reply #18 on: July 21, 2010, 05:39:53 PM »
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If the MorphOS Team would for some reason totally quit some day ...

Don't even say that :(
 

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Re: MorphOS license from old to newer system?
« Reply #19 on: July 21, 2010, 10:09:21 PM »
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You can still try it out for 30 minutes at a time, which usually plenty since you'll need to reboot long before that anyways if you try out old Amiga software on it.

I think I know what you wnat to say, but let me tell you that I had only a single freeze since the 2.5 release yet. But I am not testing old Amiga apps anymore, my system is balanced since a couple of years...

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Re: MorphOS license from old to newer system?
« Reply #20 on: July 21, 2010, 10:34:21 PM »
What's the issue with the old Amigs software running on it? Is it unstable?
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Re: MorphOS license from old to newer system?
« Reply #21 on: July 21, 2010, 11:17:09 PM »
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What's the issue with the old Amigs software running on it? Is it unstable?
No issue really, except when you try some old apps. Often it's hard to tell beforehand if some app will play ball or not. If it doesn't you might need to reboot.

While most apps don't hit the amiga hw directly, some do.

It's fun sport btw... trying to find the oldest apps that run ok. I've ran some from 86 or so. :)
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Re: MorphOS license from old to newer system?
« Reply #22 on: July 21, 2010, 11:21:12 PM »
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What's the issue with the old Amigs software running on it? Is it unstable?


It isn't generally unstable, but software hitting the Amiga custom chips direclty may cause a crash. It ain't a big deal and I run several older softwares on my MorphOS systems and, as said already, had only a single freeze since the 2.5 release on my Mac mini.

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Re: MorphOS license from old to newer system?
« Reply #23 on: July 21, 2010, 11:27:47 PM »
Cool. Currently keeping my eyes open for a 1.5GHz Mini to try Morph on.
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Re: MorphOS license from old to newer system?
« Reply #24 on: July 22, 2010, 12:33:54 AM »
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Genesi has absolutely nothing to do with MorphOS licensing.


Some times I wonder how some people managed to live under a rock during the last *6+ years*, but over time I've learned to never get surprised by stuff like this... ;)
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Re: MorphOS license from old to newer system?
« Reply #25 on: July 22, 2010, 12:36:05 AM »
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It's fun sport btw... trying to find the oldest apps that run ok. I've ran some from 86 or so. :)


What, some pre-compiled ANSI C example of "Hello World"?

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Re: MorphOS license from old to newer system?
« Reply #26 on: July 22, 2010, 01:25:29 AM »
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If the MorphOS Team would for some reason totally quit some day (I don't see that happening anytime soon) I'd imagine we'd release the MorphOS free for all then.


My guess is two years.

Really, what is left to do with it? In terms of technology, it stagnated years ago and is way behind just about anything, the only really new thing is making it available on new... old... hardware. Like with OS4 there's a handfull of native software, and if you want to explore Amiga software then UAE is just so much better, and typically faster too - and you can upgrade whenever you like.

Back when MorphOS started, I had big hopes for it, but as time has gone and very little has happened in terms of becoming an alternative to for example Linux, I've more or less given it up, for me it's just a glorified emulator that runs on exotic hardware. Many of the "improvements" and things done to "modernize" it are even the opposite of what I want.

But indeed, the number one reason to not register is this OEM wannabe scheme - those who compare it with OEM Windows don't get it - Microsoft does not only offer OEM releases that are locked to one computer, Microsoft offer several licensing scemes and I can pick one that fits me. With MorphOS it is "take it or leave it", and as devs suggest that it will eventually be free anyways, I'll just leave it for now - in a few years it will most likely be free anyways, and I've been following it for almost a decade already, I can always wait a couple of more years. But perhaps Laire decides to never release it for free, ever - noone knows.

If there was a license I could buy that would allow me to run it limitless on whatever hardware I see fit, I would buy it, even if it costed twice as much - I buy to own, not to "borrow".
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Re: MorphOS license from old to newer system?
« Reply #27 on: July 22, 2010, 01:53:52 AM »
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My guess is two years.

Really, what is left to do with it? In terms of technology, it stagnated years ago and is way behind just about anything, the only really new thing is making it available on new... old... hardware.

AFAIK, You will not find *one single* MorphOS developer who wouldn't sign to the following statements:

1) "If we would have known back then, what we know today about the PPC platform, then we would have chosen differently altogether when it comes to supported architecture."

2) "Since MorphOS *is* built on the PPC platform as of now, the best short term solution is to make *the most use* of all the available, mass produced Mac PPC HW there is!"

3) "There is no *Long Term Future* for MorphOS in the PPC platform, since the PPC platform in a MorphOS context is kind of dead".
« Last Edit: July 22, 2010, 02:00:38 AM by takemehomegrandma »
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Re: MorphOS license from old to newer system?
« Reply #28 on: July 22, 2010, 11:28:30 PM »
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AFAIK, You will not find *one single* MorphOS developer who wouldn't sign to the following statements:

3) "There is no *Long Term Future* for MorphOS in the PPC platform, since the PPC platform in a MorphOS context is kind of dead".


Well then I wonder if it would simply cease to progress or be written to run on other hardware?
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Re: MorphOS license from old to newer system?
« Reply #29 from previous page: July 22, 2010, 11:51:58 PM »
Kolla: here we go again, comparing hobbyist OS to a quite huge product from huge company as Microsoft is...