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Title: Language use in the forums
Post by: on January 09, 2003, 07:42:38 PM
This is yet another reminder that this forum is visited by young people as well as you late teeners.  Watch your language and act appropriately.  This is also not a place for lude jokes or behavior.  It's an Amiga computer site.  

While I don't expect this will affect most of you, and the off-topic conversation is fully acceptable, I will take any appropriate actions necessary to keep the conversation level somewhere above the sewer.

This is not "censorship" (even if it is, so what).  You will EACH have to admit that under normal circumstances I let you people get away with murder in the forums (and news comments).  This is nothing more than STANDARD MODERATION.

Title: Re: Language use in the forums
Post by: R2D2 on January 09, 2003, 07:44:59 PM
ok, understood, but there really were pics of birds in that link.. Sorry anyway..  :-(
Title: Re: Language use in the forums
Post by: SlimJim on January 09, 2003, 07:47:59 PM
@R2D2
 
...I thought it was funny at least. And those birds were pretty. :-D
.
SlimJim
Title: Re: Language use in the forums
Post by: on January 09, 2003, 07:49:17 PM
I understand the subject of the links, and yes, it was funny.  The wording however is still unacceptable for a family-oriented site.
Title: Re: Language use in the forums
Post by: Blitter on January 09, 2003, 07:50:03 PM
[edit]the other thread was Locked. Therefore I'm removing mine.[/edit]
Title: Re: Language use in the forums
Post by: on January 09, 2003, 07:52:30 PM
In a lot of ways, some of you truly are like a bunch of three year olds, testing "daddy" to see what you can get away with.  The other thread was locked.  

Why do you feel it's OK to do things on this site that you would NEVER do in civilized face-to-face conversation?
Title: Re: Language use in the forums
Post by: 420Dude on January 09, 2003, 07:55:13 PM
looks like you had your lighter flame on a bit to high out on the scortch  :-o

anyway, Waynes right. Vulgar language is pointless, costly and unpleasant. thank you all and may youngsters one day (maybe budding history scholars) discover the Amigas truest potentials.
out of curiosity, who here is under 18?
be honest now,

 8-)
Title: Re: Language use in the forums
Post by: on January 09, 2003, 07:57:05 PM
@420dude,

We did a poll one time and a vast majority of our users are under 22 years old.  This explains the lack of maturity displayed by some.
Title: Re: Language use in the forums
Post by: SlimJim on January 09, 2003, 07:58:02 PM
Ah, good. It was locked. I was thinking there was
something wrong with my browser for not being able to find
the "reply" button.
 
 Is there some symbol around to show that the topic is locked
(not in the forum list I mean, but when you select from the
"top ten"-list)? Would be a nice touch to have the "reply"
button be replaced by a padlock for example, instead of the
button being completely absent.
.
SlimJim
Title: Re: Language use in the forums
Post by: redrumloa on January 09, 2003, 07:58:17 PM
Hey Blitter how the hell you doing?!?!? Never made it to Florida I see:-( Oh well the Dolphins floundered yet again this year:-(

Quote

Blitter wrote:
I fail to see how that post by R2D2 is any worse
-edit-

Ah well, such is life I guess.


Ah come on Blitter, give the boss a break. The pornalizer is highly borderline also, and I nearly removed it myself. I wish people would understand that we do not like to be in a position to make a determination of if something should be removed. No matter what the content of a post that gets removed, someone will take offense. It has been said on many ocasions.

This is a family oriented site, please keep everything on a low G to PG rating. Anything PG13 or up will likely get removed.
Title: Re: Language use in the forums
Post by: Blitter on January 09, 2003, 07:58:37 PM
Sorry, I did not see that the other was locked.  I have edited my previous post.

It just didn't seem too offensive(the bird thread).  I mean there are more offensive words used on the radio and tv.  But, I understand what you're trying to accomplish.  The forums have become fairly childish at times.

Blitter
Title: Re: Language use in the forums
Post by: on January 09, 2003, 08:00:23 PM
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We did a poll one time and a vast majority of our users are under 22 years old.


I'm surprised there's that many people that young who've even heard of an Amiga.  
Title: Re: Language use in the forums
Post by: The_Editor on January 09, 2003, 08:01:51 PM
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I'm surprised there's that many people that young who've even heard of an Amiga.


My thoughts too.
Title: Re: Language use in the forums
Post by: Eric_Z on January 09, 2003, 08:02:03 PM
@Wayne

Wayne, I totaly agree with you on this one as I think that sexism or things that can be perceived as such drives away more people than it attracts, in the long run.
Title: Re: Language use in the forums
Post by: on January 09, 2003, 08:02:48 PM
...yeah, I was gonna say... it's kind of cool/weird that so many youn'uns are into an "older" machine like the Amiga. It's kind of like all these younger kids I've been running into lately that are all into 80s music...but they were BORN in the 80s!
Title: Re: Language use in the forums
Post by: SlimJim on January 09, 2003, 08:04:27 PM
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This is a family oriented site, please keep everything on a low G to PG rating. Anything PG13 or up will likely get removed.

 
Out of curiosity, what does these G, PG, etc really mean?
They don't have any practical meaning in Sweden, so I
haven't learned the abbreviation. I know PG is Parental
Guidance, but there is a whole range of abbreviations
(supposedly to less and less children-appropriate
content)...?
 
Anyone care to enlighten me?
.
SlimJim
Title: Re: Language use in the forums
Post by: Blitter on January 09, 2003, 08:04:44 PM
Hey Red, I see you managed to capture that before I removed it.  :-P

On the Florida bit.  Unfortunately the Company has declined to move the tech department to Florida.  I will be revisiting options with them in February.  If they still hold the same possition on the move then I will be looking for other avenues to move to FL.  One way or another I am going to get there.

On the Dolphins... What a waste of talent.  I mean they had the team this year.  I'm still in shock, I really am!  I'm gonna leave before I get too heated on this one! :-P

Blitter
Title: Re: Language use in the forums
Post by: on January 09, 2003, 08:06:32 PM
In regards to the average youth of our members, please keep in mind a couple of facts;

1) Most were born in the 80s
2) In the mid 90's as most of our users were reaching puberty, most of their parents (former Amigans) were giving up their Amigas and buying PC's.  Which would you rather give a 10 year old?  A brand new, $2000 machine, or an antiquated, non-standard machine that you'd already paid for which could entertain the kids and allow them to write letters to grandma and play music mods for free?
Title: Re: Language use in the forums
Post by: 420Dude on January 09, 2003, 08:19:17 PM
good sense y'all.  absolutely no need to display unsuitable degrading behavior among such group of insightful people of comendable taste. what dear folks we are all. let us not transgress backwards toward imaturity offensive to Wayne.
       Wayne is king of these hills and we all shal follow what he wills  (thats a whole rock&roll song right there folks..)
      yo if i'm ever in NewYawk, i'm coming to visit you. for reeelz! (stop cringing dude...) whenever i'm passin through or something..a-eh?  ;-)

yo and for the swedish dude

rated PG means if you are under 13 you can only view if if you are with a parent or some one 18(sometimes 21)

rated R means you have to be 18 to view
 rated xxx means its extremely graphic sex related
very unsuitable for Amiga.Org indeed!! :-x  :-x
there are practically milions of such sites and there is just no place here to things completely unrelated

unless theres some stipper that uses imageFX or something to do her book or a stoner that likes playing DeluxeGalaga with fellow dudes and chicks for hours and hours....
       the old man asked you to say the word AMIGA once in a while too! now lets not act like strangers-you understand ;-)
Title: Re: Language use in the forums
Post by: KennyR on January 09, 2003, 08:26:06 PM
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Which would you rather give a 10 year old? A brand new, $2000 machine, or an antiquated, non-standard machine that you'd already paid for which could entertain the kids and allow them to write letters to grandma and play music mods for free?

Eek, neither. A Playstation 2 would be a better (and less finacially draining) choice. It's more reasonable to get a PC for a family, but my neice for one was more interested in playing with DPaint on a vanilla A1200 than trying to get slow WindowsXP to do anything. In fact, in my own experience, the family PC just generates fights and unnecessary problems, constantly sucks away money, and is usually left to gather dust anyway.

Anyway, this is completely OT, so you can safely ignore this. I agree with you about the ####### language matter, though ;-)
Title: Re: Language use in the forums
Post by: 420Dude on January 09, 2003, 08:36:27 PM
yo@ "The Editor"

how ya doin? hows the truckin?
by the way what kind of shifts do you do?
i have a couple of freinds that do 14/14 (days)mainly moving clay make a handsome grip too
 anyway peace@ya  ;-)  :-)  ;-)
Title: Re: Language use in the forums
Post by: Damion on January 09, 2003, 08:47:36 PM
Title: Re: Language use in the forums
Post by: Elektro on January 09, 2003, 08:55:48 PM
!@@$^$&*}{(&")|+_!}#"

(http://www.forum-inside.de/images/emoticons/gripe.gif)


 :-D  :-D
Title: Re: Language use in the forums
Post by: 420Dude on January 09, 2003, 09:07:03 PM
thats a phat blunt you got there dog...
what you stuffed in it, must be almost an eighth! :-o
Title: Re: Language use in the forums
Post by: MarkTime on January 09, 2003, 09:18:09 PM
@Eric_Z,

things that can be 'perceived' as sexism?

Why such a low standard???

That struck me as being funny, is everyone raised by lawyers these days :-D
Title: Re: Language use in the forums
Post by: on January 09, 2003, 09:22:32 PM
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That struck me as being funny, is everyone raised by lawyers these days
No, but they play one on Amiga.org...
Title: Re: Language use in the forums
Post by: Blomberg on January 09, 2003, 10:12:20 PM
Dang it, *now* what did I miss?  :-?   :-?

Everytime I'm away all the good stuff gets posted  :-D
Title: Re: Language use in the forums
Post by: 420Dude on January 09, 2003, 10:29:14 PM
relax dude, y'didn't miss a thing.

the amigaOne has yet to be released

i think there were some coments made rather in poor taste though.. and soon following, Wayne has placed a plea appealing to peoples decency
Title: Re: Language use in the forums
Post by: Mike_Amiga on January 09, 2003, 11:12:02 PM
Bonjour = French

Quote

Blomberg wrote:
Dang it, *now* what did I miss?  :-?   :-?

Everytime I'm away all the good stuff gets posted  :-D


I missed it as well, I'm over 22 but that doesn't make my sense of humour all that different.

@420(why that number?)Dude.

Last time I checked Cuban cigars didn't contain contraband (unfortunately).
Title: Re: Language use in the forums
Post by: redrumloa on January 09, 2003, 11:25:46 PM
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Out of curiosity, what does these G, PG, etc really mean?


"G" means "general audience", good for all ages

"PG" means "Parental Guidance", some questionable content, not for tiny kids.

"PG-13" means "Parental Guidance 13", not recomended for those under 13

"R" means "Restriced" , very adult content not recomended for anyone under 17.

"NC-17" not sure what the N stands for. No one under 17 permited without an adult. This is the rating that was relatively recently institued to replace "X", because the X rating had become known for porn.

"X" was originaly meant for what NC-17 is today. It became a stigma afterthe porn industry used it as a selling point, and no movie house would dare let a real movie be rated this.

whew
Title: Re: Language use in the forums
Post by: Seehund on January 09, 2003, 11:26:15 PM
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Title: Re: Language use in the forums
Post by: 420Dude on January 09, 2003, 11:34:14 PM
Why 4:20s the time to spark up!  :-D
Title: Re: Language use in the forums
Post by: SlimJim on January 09, 2003, 11:41:18 PM
@redrumloa
 
So the R is the highest rating (not allowed for anyone
below 17), whereas X and NC-17 are actually somewhat
milder (not allowed for kids under 17 but allowed when with
parental supervision)?
.
SlimJim
Title: Re: Language use in the forums
Post by: Mike_Amiga on January 10, 2003, 12:25:50 AM
In the UK we have an 18 certificate in place of R. White numbers in a red circle on all videos, games, dvd etc but only Parental Guidance Explicit Lyrics on our music, odd that. :-o
Title: Re: Language use in the forums
Post by: 420Dude on January 10, 2003, 12:26:48 AM
super smoothe swirly smokin!

a bit slow tonight- maybe i'll go take a few hits with the miggy- its seems i've reached a dull momemt with very little happening (beside me keeping the flo) ;-)  :-D   :-D  :-)  :-P

Rock on, Mike of Wales!
your'e cool! ;-)  :-D  ;-)
Title: Re: Language use in the forums
Post by: Marky_D_Sahd on January 10, 2003, 01:19:47 AM
Well Tarnation!  I can't even use some flibberty-gibbit curse words here anymore???That's a dang fool policy to institute!  I don't know one darned poster here who hasn't blown his cotton-pickin" gasket at someone or other and called him a rectal sphincter (including you, Wayne.)(Except for Billsey). Looks like the whole place is going to heck.  And what about those $*&()!!! X?**#@% who use $*#@*$ characters and punctuation to relace their $%?!!*$ filthy words, like they do in the $%#)**&@? comic strips?  Or those people who like to puzzleize their verbage by ommitting every d_mn_d vowel?  Will this no longer be tollerated as well?
What a flaming crock.
I'm signing the heck off now and getting back to my own whiffing place.

(P.S.  The questions were real, but the comment was light.  I agree with your policy, and know that I have overstepped the bounds on at least one occasion and had, what I thought was a light-hearted thread erased.  But this is not my page.  I am a guest here, and I really do respect the host's authority to make the rules and enforce them.  And I would rather be seen as a good guest than an unwelcome parasite.  Thanks, Wayne.) :-)  :-)  :-)
Title: Re: Language use in the forums
Post by: samface on January 10, 2003, 02:50:01 AM
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Wayne wrote:
In regards to the average youth of our members, please keep in mind a couple of facts;

1) Most were born in the 80s
2) In the mid 90's as most of our users were reaching puberty, most of their parents (former Amigans) were giving up their Amigas and buying PC's.  Which would you rather give a 10 year old?  A brand new, $2000 machine, or an antiquated, non-standard machine that you'd already paid for which could entertain the kids and allow them to write letters to grandma and play music mods for free?


Hey, I'm 23 (born in late -79) and I've been an Amiga user since -87. My first Amiga was an A1000 that required to boot the Kickstart from floppy disk. However, it wasn't my first computer though, that was an amazing VIC-20 where I managed to create my very first BASIC program. Are we beeing a little prejudiced here, Wayne?
Title: Re: Language use in the forums
Post by: on January 10, 2003, 03:53:25 AM
@samface

Not at all, you're on the back end of the bell curve where age of Amiga.org user is concerned.
Title: Re: Language use in the forums
Post by: T_Bone on January 10, 2003, 04:59:26 AM
@Mike_Amiga wrote:
> Last time I checked Cuban cigars didn't contain
> contraband (unfortunately).

last time I checked, Cuban cigars _are_ contraband  :-P
Title: Re: Language use in the forums
Post by: whabang on January 10, 2003, 07:49:36 AM
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and a vast majority of our users are under 22 years old. This explains the lack of maturity displayed by some.

Thanks?
 :-)
Title: Re: Language use in the forums
Post by: Casper on January 10, 2003, 09:33:43 AM
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last time I checked, Cuban cigars _are_ contraband

Only in the USA.
Title: Re: Language use in the forums
Post by: Tigger on January 10, 2003, 07:29:06 PM
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SlimJim wrote:
So the R is the highest rating (not allowed for anyone
below 17), whereas X and NC-17 are actually somewhat
milder (not allowed for kids under 17 but allowed when with
parental supervision)?


No, the last three (though technically X does not exist anymore)>

R - "Restricted" noone under 17 admitted without a parent or adult guardian  

NC17 - Noone under 17 admitted  (Very view films are released with this rating, though DVDs with this rating as director cuts are fairly common these days.

X - The old name for what now is NC17, its got very negative history at this time for its use in porn, however one of the first films to get this rating was the 1933 King Kong which had to have several scenes of Kong devouring people removed for the films release in order get a more mild rating.   The film these days would probably get a PG-13 (ie same as Jurrassic Park 3).
    -Tig

 --I love the taste of crunchy natives.
          -K.  Kong

Title: Re: Language use in the forums
Post by: Marky_D_Sahd on January 10, 2003, 07:48:16 PM
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Tigger wrote:
Quote

SlimJim wrote:
So the R is the highest rating (not allowed for anyone
below 17), whereas X and NC-17 are actually somewhat
milder (not allowed for kids under 17 but allowed when with
parental supervision)?


No, the last three (though technically X does not exist anymore)>

R - "Restricted" noone under 17 admitted without a parent or adult guardian  

NC17 - Noone under 17 admitted  (Very view films are released with this rating, though DVDs with this rating as director cuts are fairly common these days.

X - The old name for what now is NC17, its got very negative history at this time for its use in porn, however one of the first films to get this rating was the 1933 King Kong which had to have several scenes of Kong devouring people removed for the films release in order get a more mild rating.   The film these days would probably get a PG-13 (ie same as Jurrassic Park 3).
    -Tig

 --I love the taste of crunchy natives.
          -K.  Kong



Tig!  I am surprized at you!  You are usually a fount of incontrovertable knowlege and research, but this time, you're wrong!
King Kong was never threatened with an "X" rating!  It couldn't have been because the ratings system didn't begin in the United States until the late 1960's.  Kong DID face censorship, both from the newly established Hays Office, and from the Catholic Church and the Kennedy Family, who could (and did) get films "Banned In Boston" even after the ratings system was established.  The original ratings were:
"G," "M," "R." and "X".  "M," for "Mature," was later changed to "PG," "Parental Guidence," because people thought that "mature" movies were pornography.
The "PG-13" rating was added in the 1980's because of the movie "Indiana Jones and the Temple Of Doom".  After its release as a "PG" film (because nothing in it fir an "R" rating), parents complained that "PG" was not sufficient to warn parents that a scene of a man's beating heart being ripped from his chest was coming.
King Kong also had to remove a few scenes of Kong using Fay Wray's top as a PlayStation controller.  (See, now, dad-burn it Wayne!  I'm trying to keep this consarned thing clean!)
Title: Re: Language use in the forums
Post by: Tigger on January 10, 2003, 08:51:59 PM
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Marky_D_Sahd wrote:

Tig!  I am surprized at you!  You are usually a fount of incontrovertable knowlege and research, but this time, you're wrong!
King Kong was never threatened with an "X" rating!  It couldn't have been because the ratings system didn't begin in the United States until the late 1960's.  Kong DID face censorship, both from the newly established Hays Office, and from the Catholic Church and the Kennedy Family, who could (and did) get films "Banned In Boston" even after the ratings system was established.


I'll believe you since the MPA didnt start until 1968.  Though I am going to complain to the author of my Kong book, since it says the movie was initially rated X and in actuallity it looks from IMDB that its original movie code was "banned" and then moved to Appoved after certain scenes were removed.   Its too bad the spider scene hasnt ever been found it would have been neat to see what all the fuss was about.
    -Tig
Title: Re: Language use in the forums
Post by: on January 10, 2003, 09:26:38 PM
what about X/XX/XXX ? what do those ratings mean?.... aside from the more X's the better....
Title: Re: Language use in the forums
Post by: on January 10, 2003, 09:30:46 PM
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what about X/XX/XXX ? what do those ratings mean?.... aside from the more X's the better....
... And this has WHAT to do with language usage in the forums?  Please start a new thread?

Wayne