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Title: Worms Nostalgia
Post by: Mike_Amiga on February 07, 2003, 10:24:28 PM
This isn't a thread to state your favourite games in, it is dedicated to the game "Worms" but if you want to mention your experience of similar games feel free.

Does anybody else have fond memories of this brilliant title.

I used to go to my friends house and play it on his P90. Top of the range PC at the time. Anyway, we both had specific sets of team names and stuff, here's mine.

Mikes Psychos:

Psycho (Team Captain, although it didn't make much difference),
Swinger Killer,
Squidgy,
Spungey (The way I would spell it),
Slasher.

I remember recording our own sound set, including many naughty words and rude comments while my friends parents were out. These later worked to devastating comic effect within certain scenarios. :-P

I got obsessed with the tune that came on the CD ROM for a while as well, ah, sad little me.:-D Got it on tape somewhere.

Hogs of war is like a 3D Worms, only with Pigs on Playstation, I’d love to be able to tamper with the sound set on that. Although the voices provided by Rick Mail were top notch.

Another Example of a 3D worms game is Imp Fodder on the Mac, you only have one weapon and a repetitive sound set but it was Freeware I suppose.

Warm fuzzy memories. :-D  :-P  :-)
Title: Re: Worms Nostalgia
Post by: iamaboringperson on February 07, 2003, 10:34:31 PM
it would be cool to have a new version of that on the amiga i guess! an RTG compliant one!
i wouldnt want to program one though :(
Title: Re: Worms Nostalgia
Post by: Paul_Gadd on February 07, 2003, 10:50:31 PM
I loved those worm games untill Worms armageddon came which imo lost the feeling of a great game,

Worms DC would be outstanding if it was playable online.
Title: Re: Worms Nostalgia
Post by: Bezzen on February 08, 2003, 12:36:44 AM
Well, Worms 3 is coming up... perhaps something for Hyperion once they're done with OS4?  :-D

Team 17's Worms 3 site (http://www.worms3.com/home.html)

Oh, and I used to play Worms to death.. both on my Amiga and on a friend's PSX.

edit: aaron spelling
Title: Re: Worms Nostalgia
Post by: Rob on February 08, 2003, 12:40:38 AM
I've still got DC on my hard drive but it just doesn't seem as fun
having played World Party.  I'd definately get it if there was an
Amiga release.
Title: Re: Worms Nostalgia
Post by: fragment on February 08, 2003, 10:16:39 AM
Ahh, just spent 3 euros to the original copy of Worms (amiga) Now all I need is an Amiga1200, because it's not too pretty with 1meg OCS Amiga500 but works  :-D
Title: Re: Worms Nostalgia
Post by: chris on February 08, 2003, 11:03:40 AM
I love WormsDC - fire it up now and again but it is better playing it against proper human players than the computer.  My team was/is called "The Bobs", with team members Uncle Bob, Robert, Bob and Bobbie (the useless worm).

Hyperion have a licence to port Worms: Armageddon, but this has been put on hold, mostly due to OS4 I assume.  When it is released I imagine it will now be an OS4-only title.

Chris
Title: Re: Worms Nostalgia
Post by: KrasH on February 08, 2003, 11:42:55 AM
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Mike_Amiga wrote:
This isn't a thread to state your favourite games in, it is dedicated to the game "Worms" but if you want to mention your experience of similar games feel free.

Does anybody else have fond memories of this brilliant title.

I used to go to my friends house and play it on his P90. Top of the range PC at the time. Anyway, we both had specific sets of team names and stuff, here's mine.

Mikes Psychos:

Psycho (Team Captain, although it didn't make much difference),
Swinger Killer,
Squidgy,
Spungey (The way I would spell it),
Slasher.

I remember recording our own sound set, including many naughty words and rude comments while my friends parents were out. These later worked to devastating comic effect within certain scenarios. :-P

I got obsessed with the tune that came on the CD ROM for a while as well, ah, sad little me.:-D Got it on tape somewhere.

Hogs of war is like a 3D Worms, only with Pigs on Playstation, I’d love to be able to tamper with the sound set on that. Although the voices provided by Rick Mail were top notch.

Another Example of a 3D worms game is Imp Fodder on the Mac, you only have one weapon and a repetitive sound set but it was Freeware I suppose.

Warm fuzzy memories. :-D  :-P  :-)


I gotta admit that I was a bit of a Worms: The Directors Cut addict. At the local Amiga users group meetings we'd get 4 to play against each other. hell of alot of fun. Especially when using the Holy Hand Grenade... "Allalluya... BOOOOM" Would always get out a chuckle (especially if an unfortunate worm/worms ended up going off the screen ;)
Title: Re: Worms Nostalgia
Post by: JoNty on February 08, 2003, 12:11:26 PM
I once ran a Worms download site, where the original and Worms DC were available in ADF and HD installed form.

I may very well re-make it.
Title: Re: Worms Nostalgia
Post by: Mike_Amiga on February 08, 2003, 04:49:30 PM
@JoNty

That would be good. :-D

I've just remembered another similar game that came free with PC Basic, programmed in the language for an example I think.

It involved  2 Gorillas lobbing bananas at each other on various landscapes. It was a turn based game using angles and powering up how hard your gorilla would throw his banana. Can't remember if it had a ramdom varying wind or not, I think it did.

Feel free to correct me. ;-)
Title: Re: Worms Nostalgia
Post by: uncharted on February 08, 2003, 05:41:03 PM
Worms brings back many memories.  If it wasn't for Worms, I'd probably never have got into Amigas

Cast you minds back....way back.. It's late November/Early December 1997 and I'm doing my GCSE mocks.  Because I lived 3 miles from the school (and the buses were crap) I ended up spending my study time around freinds houses.  i got out of the first exam late and went over to my best mate Al's house.  

I was greeted my his Mum "Erm, I hope you don't actually want to get any revision done here Andy." looking around the corner there were about 6 or 7 of my mates were crammed into the office (which was basically the cupboard under the stairs) blowing the living crap out of each other's worms while MTV blasted away in the room next door.

Needless to say we spend the rest of the study leave during the mocks playing worms non-stop and listening to music at unhealthy volumes. :-D :-D

Now if you'll excuse me, I have to wipe away this nostalgic tear.....
Title: Re: Worms Nostalgia
Post by: uncharted on February 08, 2003, 05:48:05 PM
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Paul_Gadd wrote:
I loved those worm games untill Worms armageddon came which imo lost the feeling of a great game,

Worms DC would be outstanding if it was playable online.


Personnally I felt it lost it quite a bit after the first one (i've never played DC though), I remember spending ages helping my mate upgrade his P75 in order to play Worms 2 and being very dissapointed when playing it.

That said I was very much looking forward to playing Worms Armageddon on the AmigaOne  back when it was due Summer 2001.  Oh well :-(
Title: Re: Worms Nostalgia
Post by: Nick on February 08, 2003, 05:55:22 PM
I have seen Worms Armourgeddon on the N64 and have to say it looks horrible. Yes the graphics have more detail etc, which is usually good. Thing is it looks restricting. Sort of like zooming in. Not good!
Title: Re: Worms Nostalgia
Post by: Mike_Amiga on February 08, 2003, 06:04:04 PM
 :-PLooks like my friend Keith had a better pentium than yours :-P

Not that, that's anything to gloat about. :-D

Nice none political thread this isn't it? :-?  :-)

I bought the miggy version for my A500 but the sound didn't work so I took it back. I'd have thought with games like Valhala around that a standard A500 with a Meg should be able to run this, no trouble. It wasn't all that graphically complex.

Title: Re: Worms Nostalgia
Post by: uncharted on February 08, 2003, 06:14:29 PM
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Mike_Amiga wrote:
 :-PLooks like my friend Keith had a better pentium than yours :-P

Not that, that's anything to gloat about. :-D

Nice none political thread this isn't it? :-?  :-)

I bought the miggy version for my A500 but the sound didn't work so I took it back. I'd have thought with games like Valhala around that a standard A500 with a Meg should be able to run this, no trouble. It wasn't all that graphically complex.



Worms was very limited on 1MB machines.  You really needed 2MBs to play it properly.  I'll probably get kicked in the head for saying this, but the PC version (I'm talking about the original here) was waaaay better than the Amiga version.  As i said before, I never played DC so I don't know about that.

Worms 2 saw an amazing leap in minimum requirements, most of which was probably down to being a win95 program :-(
Title: Re: Worms Nostalgia
Post by: Mike_Amiga on February 08, 2003, 06:32:28 PM
:ranting:Only ever played the first version of Worms. Could you edit the sound set on the Amiga version or was it only for PCs?

:ranting:That aspect of the game kicked @$$!

:ranting:Bought it to a whole new level!

The people at Apple really need to sort out the graphical display problems on Safari, animated smilies and avatars are getting boarders appearing in certain frames. :-o
Title: Re: Worms Nostalgia
Post by: Nick on February 09, 2003, 12:10:59 PM
I played the original for a while, then my brother got DC. DC kicks butt.

More weapons (including the holy handgranade)

Editable sounds (not sure if thats possible on the first)

AGA graphics

Its a damn good game. Shame it doesn`t like my Punchinello Mk3 + Logitech optical mouse. I have to use joypad, which really sucks! :cry:
Title: Re: Worms Nostalgia
Post by: uncharted on February 09, 2003, 12:33:31 PM
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Mike_Amiga wrote:
:ranting:Only ever played the first version of Worms. Could you edit the sound set on the Amiga version or was it only for PCs?

:ranting:That aspect of the game kicked @$$!

:ranting:Bought it to a whole new level!

The people at Apple really need to sort out the graphical display problems on Safari, animated smilies and avatars are getting boarders appearing in certain frames. :-o


Well the samples were just iff files, you could probably change them with your own ones (you could use the french and german settings as different sound sets).  There wasn't any possiblity of having different sets for different teams like the PC version.

TBH I think the original version on the Amiga suffered from the A500 syndrome, where the game ABSOLUTELY had to run on a 1MB A500, even at the cost of features and gameplay, this is partially what killed the Amiga games market towards the end.

As for Safari I'm just pissed off theat it won't let me change back to IE as a default browser (even though I told it not to change in the first place) :-x
Title: Re: Worms Nostalgia
Post by: chris on February 09, 2003, 02:25:05 PM
A few points:

1. Don't make Worms downloadable unless you have permission from Team17

2. WormsDC also had the ability to create your own landscapes (randomly generated ones, as well as the IFF bitmap versions you could do in the original).  I don't think this has been possible in any of the PC versions.

3. Worms better on the PC???!  The graphics were worse, the sound was worse (IIRC).  Sorry, the Amiga version wins hands down.

4. Yes, I think you are right about A500 syndrome.  This is presumably the reason for WormsDC - to make a version of Worms without the restrictions of the A500

Chris
Title: Re: Worms Nostalgia
Post by: uncharted on February 09, 2003, 06:08:36 PM
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chris wrote:

2. WormsDC also had the ability to create your own landscapes (randomly generated ones, as well as the IFF bitmap versions you could do in the original).  I don't think this has been possible in any of the PC versions.

3. Worms better on the PC???!  The graphics were worse, the sound was worse (IIRC).  Sorry, the Amiga version wins hands down.


2. The orginal PC version allowed for custom random landscapes as well as hand drawn landscapes (in PCX format)  The main difference with the PC version was that you didn't have to wait for the landscapes to be drawn (they generated instantly)

3. Erm I don't know how you get this, comparing the original versions of both Amiga and PC, the PC version was far supirior - 256 colour GFX compared with 32, CD soundtrack, extra game modes, better sounds (and seperate sets for different teams), landscape zooming. and backgrounds other than the mountains (which IIRC could be user defined). The gfx may look blockier on the PC, but that's only because they are displayed on a proper monitor rather than a TV.  Try playing worms via UAE in fullscreen and see how good it looks then.

Most other 2D games that came out for both Amiga and PC, Amiga would win hands down, but in this case it doesn't.
Title: Re: Worms Nostalgia
Post by: chris on February 09, 2003, 06:32:02 PM
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uncharted wrote:
2. The orginal PC version allowed for custom random landscapes as well as hand drawn landscapes (in PCX format)  The main difference with the PC version was that you didn't have to wait for the landscapes to be drawn (they generated instantly)


Okay, didn't know that.  Probably it generating instantly is more down to the processor speed than anything else.

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3. Erm I don't know how you get this, comparing the original versions of both Amiga and PC, the PC version was far supirior - 256 colour GFX compared with 32, CD soundtrack, extra game modes, better sounds (and seperate sets for different teams), landscape zooming. and backgrounds other than the mountains (which IIRC could be user defined). The gfx may look blockier on the PC, but that's only because they are displayed on a proper monitor rather than a TV.  Try playing worms via UAE in fullscreen and see how good it looks then.


Hmm... I admit I didn't pay too much attention to it (the original Worms for the Amiga had different backgrounds as well btw, WormsDC allowed you to customise them along with the landscapes), maybe it was just the low resolution and the monitor.  I have UAE on this machine so I might try what you suggest.[/quote]