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Offline Tumbleweed

OS3.2 & WHDLoad
« on: August 04, 2021, 06:10:00 PM »
Hi all,

Since upgrading to OS3.2 from OS3.9 none of my WHDload installs work - boot to either a black screen or a flickering screen with corrupted graphics.

WHDLoad is the latest version from whdload.de and the installs / slaves are the latest versions

Ive played around with tool types - nommu, nocache etc increasing stack size but no joy. Ive tried booting with cache disabled from the OS3.2 boot menu (I have 3.2 Roms) but no luck either.

I have a500 kick rom in devs/kickstarts along with the RTB file. All worked mostly ok with 3.9 but what was working now isnt.

Amiga is a A3000T, Kick3.2, OS3.2, CSMKII 060 128MB Ram; Cybervision64.

Any ideas? any help greatly appreciated.

Weed.



A3000T, Cybervision64, CSMKII 060; A3000D, PicassoII, Z3 Fastlane; A2000D, 040, PicassoII; A4000D, A1200, Blizzard 030 MKIV - both not working :(
 

Offline utri007

Re: OS3.2 & WHDLoad
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2021, 08:27:23 PM »
I have OS3.9 all my machines, even when I own several copies of OS3.1.4.

So reupgrade back to OS3.9
ACube Sam 440ep Flex 800mhz, 1gb ram and 240gb hd and OS4.1FE
A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline Tumbleweed

Re: OS3.2 & WHDLoad
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2021, 08:46:41 PM »
So go back to OS3.9. Does 3.9 work with 3.2 ROMs?
A3000T, Cybervision64, CSMKII 060; A3000D, PicassoII, Z3 Fastlane; A2000D, 040, PicassoII; A4000D, A1200, Blizzard 030 MKIV - both not working :(
 

Offline lionstorm

Re: OS3.2 & WHDLoad
« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2021, 09:03:30 PM »
maybe you could try a fresh install of AOS3.2 as it is the recommended way of installing it !
mixing AOS3.9 components with AOS3.2 might be the culprit...
 
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Offline AndyFC

Re: OS3.2 & WHDLoad
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2021, 09:53:55 PM »
I only had an issue with one game, F1GP, after I upgraded to 3.2 but it might be unrelated. It would start the game with one of the in-game screens showing but go to a black screen; the game usually starts with a grey/black AmigaDOS 1.3 screen first. I redownloaded the slave and it was ok.
A1200 in DIY Tower. 3.2 ROMs, 3.5" HD, CD RW and IDE to SD adapter running off the internal IDE port (using the A4000 4-port IDE adapter from Amigakit), Blizzard 1230-IV, with 32MB 60ns RAM and 50MHz 68882 FPU. 3COM PCMCIA Network card running with Miami DX. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PrGdL6XjmE

MorphOS on PowerMac G5 and ATI 9600 pro
 

Offline Tumbleweed

Re: OS3.2 & WHDLoad
« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2021, 10:19:36 AM »
maybe you could try a fresh install of AOS3.2 as it is the recommended way of installing it !
mixing AOS3.9 components with AOS3.2 might be the culprit...

In the manual for 3.2 it says you can install 3.2 over 3.9 - just miss out a few of the early steps. Maybe because I've tweaked my OS3.9 installation BB3 & 4, icon.library and a few others its causing problems with WHDLoad.

I now have it working.

I created a new partition. Clean installed 3.2, installed Picasso96 and then WHDLoad. All working fine. I now have two boot partitions one for my OS3.2/3.9 and the new clean OS3.2. I can then select which one to boot into from the OS3.2 boot menu.

I'd rather just have one boot partition but for mow its a decent workaround.

Thanks for your help.

Weed.
A3000T, Cybervision64, CSMKII 060; A3000D, PicassoII, Z3 Fastlane; A2000D, 040, PicassoII; A4000D, A1200, Blizzard 030 MKIV - both not working :(
 

Offline Tumbleweed

Re: OS3.2 & WHDLoad
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2021, 12:08:52 PM »
After a bit more digging it looks like the issue may be with network. I installed Roadshow, then SMBFS Mount and SAMBA and now I am experiencing the same issues as before with my original install.

More investigation ....

A3000T, Cybervision64, CSMKII 060; A3000D, PicassoII, Z3 Fastlane; A2000D, 040, PicassoII; A4000D, A1200, Blizzard 030 MKIV - both not working :(
 

Offline Tumbleweed

Re: OS3.2 & WHDLoad
« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2021, 12:17:12 PM »
Disabling Roadshow by commenting out the startup lines in user-startup fixes the problem.

My initial question OS3.2 & WHDLoad now looks to be misguided - should have been WHDLoad & Roadshow.

 
A3000T, Cybervision64, CSMKII 060; A3000D, PicassoII, Z3 Fastlane; A2000D, 040, PicassoII; A4000D, A1200, Blizzard 030 MKIV - both not working :(
 

Offline Tumbleweed

Re: OS3.2 & WHDLoad
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2021, 05:11:03 PM »
Doesnt look like its an issue with Roadshow. I downloaded MiamiDX off Aminet and installed it. When on-line WHDLoad games dont load. When off-line they work fine.

Ive tried changing tooltypes on the WHDLoad slave's - added NoNetwork but didnt make any difference.

Im missing something but for the life of me cant seem to find it!

Any one got any ideas?

Best.

Weed
A3000T, Cybervision64, CSMKII 060; A3000D, PicassoII, Z3 Fastlane; A2000D, 040, PicassoII; A4000D, A1200, Blizzard 030 MKIV - both not working :(
 

Offline Tygre

Re: OS3.2 & WHDLoad
« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2021, 05:30:04 PM »
Hi Tumbleweed!

Unfortunately, that's a known "bug" in WHDLoad, check this discussion. It doesn't (seem to) matter if you use Miami (like me) or Roadshow.

I don't know if work has been done on it but I still have this problem with the latest WHDLoad (yes, the one that can use the network ;D).

Take care!
« Last Edit: August 05, 2021, 05:30:38 PM by Tygre »
 

Offline utri007

Re: OS3.2 & WHDLoad
« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2021, 08:06:31 PM »
Interesting that Genesis / AMITCP is only TCP/IP stack wich works fine with WHDLoad.
ACube Sam 440ep Flex 800mhz, 1gb ram and 240gb hd and OS4.1FE
A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline kolla

Re: OS3.2 & WHDLoad
« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2021, 09:08:24 PM »
This is a solved problem. There are settings in the prefs file for what scripts to run before slave is loaded and after slave has quit, the example scripts already have shutdown/restart methods for Miami and Roadshow. Look in files S:WHDLoad#?
« Last Edit: August 05, 2021, 09:09:10 PM by kolla »
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A1200/Blz1230III/32MB
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MiSTer, MiST, FleaFPGAs and original Minimig
Peg1, SAM440 and Mac minis with MorphOS
 
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Offline Tumbleweed

Re: OS3.2 & WHDLoad
« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2021, 09:18:28 PM »
Thanks all. I spent a few hrs on it today. Ill have another go tomorrow.

Weed
« Last Edit: August 05, 2021, 09:19:22 PM by Tumbleweed »
A3000T, Cybervision64, CSMKII 060; A3000D, PicassoII, Z3 Fastlane; A2000D, 040, PicassoII; A4000D, A1200, Blizzard 030 MKIV - both not working :(
 

Offline utri007

Re: OS3.2 & WHDLoad
« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2021, 09:32:44 PM »
There is a discussion on eab, about this seems that Roadshow has some problems with WHDLoad

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The issue with Roadshow is that it does not support "offline". When you switch Genesis to offline, it is still running, just does not have a network connection.

The only way to stop Roadshow from having network connections is to shut it down completely. But a TCP/IP stack cannot be shut down if programs are still using TCP/IP. That's especially bad if you use something like SMBFS because SMBFS cannot shut down if some files or directories on the network share are still open.
ACube Sam 440ep Flex 800mhz, 1gb ram and 240gb hd and OS4.1FE
A1200 Micronic tower, OS3.9, Apollo 060 66mhz, xPert Merlin, Delfina Lite and Micronic Scandy, 500Gb hd, 66mb ram, DVD-burner and WLAN.
A1200 desktop, OS3.9, Blizzard 060 66mhz, 66mb ram, Ide Fix Express with 160Gb HD and WLAN
A500 OS2.1, GVP+HD8 with 4mb ram, 1mb chip ram and 4gb HD
Commodore CDTV KS3.1, 1mb chip, 4mb fast ram and IDE HD
 

Offline Tumbleweed

Re: OS3.2 & WHDLoad
« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2021, 09:50:52 PM »
Cheers Utri. I have a SMBFS share running so I guess that comlicates things. What I did manage to ascertain this afternoon using my clean OS3.2 install with Roadshow and SMBFS Mounter was that I needed to unmount the SMBFS share then issue the NetShutdown command. Probelme is NetShutdown isnt perfect and doesnt always work (known problem and is documented in the Roadshow docs).

I plan to congigure thre start-up and clean up scripts and see how that goes.

If I have no joy with it I still have it working on my clean OS3.2 partition which isnt network enabled automtaically. Ive set Miami to only start manually. Same with the SMBFS. Works perfect been playing Battelsquadron, Rainbow Islands, RikDangerous all work perfectly.

Weed
A3000T, Cybervision64, CSMKII 060; A3000D, PicassoII, Z3 Fastlane; A2000D, 040, PicassoII; A4000D, A1200, Blizzard 030 MKIV - both not working :(