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Dear Amiga SE Owners and developers

Just a quick question.

Does the AmigaOne have the "early boot menu" and can it be used to boot different OS's (Or even varients of the same OS eg "flavours of Linux")???

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Re: Does the AmigaOne have "early startup" menu and can it be used for &quo
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2003, 11:49:43 PM »
It was said that OS4 will have an early start-up menu much the same as the original (old news that may have changed)  It may  come with added features or modified based around the hardware, dunno about the dual boot though
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Re: Does the AmigaOne have "early startup" menu and can it be used for &quo
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2003, 12:10:08 AM »
Is the point of the early startup menu not that it is BEFORE the OS, that being hardware?

So that you are able to boot to access a non-bootable harddrive for instance.

Not trying to flame anyone here (especially not if I am wrong :)), but I would like to know if the A1 has such a menu or if OS4 has some strange, useless (to me) startup-menu.

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Re: Does the AmigaOne have "early startup" menu and can it be used for &quo
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2003, 12:21:37 AM »
@those that own an AmigaOne
What happens if someone holds the two mouse buttons after a reboot?



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Re: Does the AmigaOne have "early startup" menu and can it be used for &quo
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2003, 12:23:53 AM »
They go click!

Sorry couldn`t resist it ;-)  :-D
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Re: Does the AmigaOne have "early startup" menu and can it be used for &quo
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2003, 12:24:01 AM »
Yeah, It'll dual boot. Check the AmigaOne and AmigaOS4 mailing lists on YahooGroups. People are dual booting now with various Linux distros and yes, you will be able to do that with OS 4.

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Re: Does the AmigaOne have "early startup" menu and can it be used for &quo
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2003, 12:33:13 AM »
@those that own an AmigaOne
What happens if someone holds the two mouse buttons after a reboot?

I don't have an A1, but since they only run Linux at the moment til OS4 is released, I assume that would have the same effect as on a X86 Linux version distro ie. not much. click, click.
 

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Re: Does the AmigaOne have "early startup" menu and can it be used for &quo
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2003, 01:07:20 AM »
@Argo

I thought that the early satrt menu can from BIOS so happened prior to OS load.

In which case it should not matter what OS you boot.

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Re: Does the AmigaOne have "early startup" menu and can it be used for &quo
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2003, 01:17:25 AM »
Lets make it more clear, does it have early startup menu the way classic Amigas have? (like newbee asked, from bios or some sort of rom?)

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Does Pegasos have an early startup menu?
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Re: Does the AmigaOne have "early startup" menu and can it be used for &quo
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2003, 01:46:53 AM »
screen shots please!  :-D
i want loads of detail!!
rather than breif sumaries etc...
a HUGE, FULL review all on one big web site would be cool....
 

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Re: Does the AmigaOne have "early startup" menu and can it be used for &quo
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2003, 02:32:10 AM »
Guess we'll have to wait til OS 4.0 is released to know for sure, unless we heard it from Hyperion or Eyetech before then.

All I know is that Hyperion has said that OS 4 will have an early startup menu. Weither it is in BIOS or not, they didn't say.
 

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Re: Does the AmigaOne have "early startup" menu and can it be used for &quo
« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2003, 03:03:19 AM »
@argo
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All I know is that Hyperion has said that OS 4 will have an early startup menu. Weither it is in BIOS or not, they didn't say.

It's hard to tell, they wrote both...

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Re: Does the AmigaOne have "early startup" menu and can it be used for &quo
« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2003, 08:00:20 AM »
What's the big deal with how a firmware settings screen looks like?
- "It's black and it's got white characters!"
- "No, it's blue and it's got light-grey characters!"
- "You access it by holding down 'Delete' at power-up!"
- "No, you access it by holding down 'F1'!"

Who cares? It sounds like some people think of modern hardware as an Amiga or something. It's the available settings that are interesting. Can you set both FSB frequency and multiplier? CPU and RAM voltages? Or can these only be adjusted with jumpers on the Teron boards? Et c. All this has of course nothing to do with AmigaOS or whatever other OS you use.

What I wonder is what bootloader is recommended/shipped to dual boot with AmigaOS? Yaboot? Or can PPCBoot handle this by itself?
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Re: Does the AmigaOne have "early startup" menu and can it be used for &quo
« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2003, 08:30:14 AM »
> Who cares? It sounds like some people think of modern hardware as an Amiga or something.

And the winner of the "one-note horn" award, for the second year in a row, is...SEEHUND!

Seriously, it seems a lot of people cares. Two reasons for this, I think: Firstly, the early startup menu is a typical Amiga feature, which is much liked and something people want on the new machines as well. Secondly, with all these delays, ANY news about the new Amigas are welcome.

Kay
 

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Re: Does the AmigaOne have "early startup" menu and can it be used for &quo
« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2003, 08:36:51 AM »
Its only a little horn, which is probably why it is blown so much.

( Im going to regret that I guess )
Hate figure. :lol: