Amiga and monitors. How'd you do it?

[SquirrelM@ster]

I searched and didn't find any such threads...
 
For everyone who has hooked up their Amiga to a monitor/ TV, please...please, share how you did it, so others can do the same thing without buying a monitor only to find out that they have to return it.
 
1) Which Amiga do you have? 500, 1000, 1200?
 
2) Which monitor, TV are you using? Model #?
 
3) Did you use an adapter? Which one?
 
4) How did you get everything to work together?
 
5) Please share pics.
 
This thread can be a collection for all the info, rather than scattered on the forum.
 
As for me, I have an Amiga 500 and am currently looking for a flatscreen TV for it. If I find anything that works, I'll share it, as well.
 
Thanks!

[SquirrelM@ster]

All
 
Amiga 1084S, NEC Multisync 75
 
1084S requires NO adapter whatsoever and it supports all Amiga 500 modes.
NEC Multisync 75 requires a flickerfixer. It supports all Amiga FlickerFixer video modes.
I can play any NTSC or PAL game on either monitor.
 
plug & play 5 minutes

Wow! Thanks for the super clear info! I saw there's a flickerfixer/scan doubler on amigakit.com. But, it's 120 GBP...that's $190 US! Damn. Do you recommend any particular flickerfixer?

[SquirrelM@ster]

Hey there, Well I feel this is a great thread idea! Esp, if we could amass a single master list of all known Amiga-compatible monitors!
 
I have a 20" Toshiba TIMM MM20E45 TV/multisync monitor with built-in speakers, and even a subwoofer!
 
BRIEF DESCRIPTION     An Amiga compatible 20 inch (500mm) combination multisync monitor and television set. The horizontal scan rates for the RGB monitor are from 15kHz to 40kHz with vertical scan rates of 50-90Hz. 15kHz NTSC composite and SVHS video inputs along with built in stereo sound complete the feature set.
 
I managed to con my dad into buying it originally for my heavily-expanded
Amiga 500... It cost $500.00 , which was a great deal back then for a 20"
 
As for getting it to work... I just used a standard 15-pin VGA cable, and a standard
Commodore silver VGA adapter. Funny, when the monitor arrived, there was NO cable,
I called Toshiba, they said they don't ship cables anymore with them,
but happily FedEx'd me a VGA cable for free! Good Company.
 
One thing, tho, the TIMM needs a Sync Strainer adapter for Toaster use.
 
Gotta say, this monitor is the BOMB! True Multisync, handles any resoulution you can throw at it,
about the only monitor that I can safely risk using MonEd with...
I have moved my TIMM to whatever the most capable Amiga in the house is!
Sorry, the pic isn't that great.... but it IS just a big beige box, anyway..
I thought my feeble A1200T's Workbench might be a better pic!

I don't know anything about the TIMM, and I couldn't find any pics online. My work computer wouldn't let me view your pic.
 
Anyway, it sounds like a bit of a rare monitor. Is it? I'm glad you found such a great monitor!

[SquirrelM@ster]

1: I have every Amiga model of computer... Many times.
2: Native I use a Microvitec... A4000s use a Picasso IV and Mitsubishi or IIyima
3: No adaptors ... I just plug the Amiga or Graphics card into the monitor
4: I just plugged it in, though the Picasso uses software.
 
Monitors:
http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com/amiga/amiga_scuzz43.htm
Microvitec: Mitsubishi: Iiyima:
http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com/amiga/amiga_scuzz328.htm
1084s Checkmate:
http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com/amiga/a_scuzz_may22/a_scuzz_jun06_02.jpg
A1200: Microvitec
http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com/amiga/amiga_scuzz55f.htm
A500: Philips
http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com/amiga/amiga_scuzz91.htm
 
PS You will not really get a stock Amiga to run on a PC monitor without a graphics card.
 
PPS Composite Jack: The Amiga was a video editing tool of the late 80s early 90s

Damn. You're a serious Amigan. I peeped the links. Very informative and inspiring. What you said about emulators was intriguing.

[SquirrelM@ster]

Hi i have a Amiga 1200 and i use a scart lead bought from Amigakit ,and it is connected to a 19inch hd ready dolby digital bush tv and its a brilliant picture ,best wishes Brian.:laughing:

Which SCART did you buy? There are a few...
 

Sharp LC42DH77E works fine with VGA and SCART. It syncs down to 15KHz.

You didn't have to use a flickerfixer?  Which SCART/VGA kit did you use? Where did you get it? Amigamaniac has an adapter as well...
 
 
Thanks, guys! You mind posting the specs/resolution of those TVs? I'm in the US...
 
Also, I found another VGA kit here: http://www.buy.com/pr/product.aspx?sku=220215113&sellerid=18700237 Well, for those in the US, this might be easier.

[SquirrelM@ster]

Wrong!
 
I have been using PC monitors on my Amigas without any silly graphics card since 1990!
 
It is called a FlickerFixer. It requires no drivers, no software and no problems and works with any normal PC monitor. FlickerFixer = 1000% compatible.

Do you recommend any flickerfixers? What do you recommend for an Amiga 500?
 
Would this flickerfixer work for every Amiga model?
 
Amigakit.com has a flickerfixer, but it's internal. I'd rather not open up my computer if an external flickerfixer is available...

[SquirrelM@ster]

I just made a call to Sharp about their flatscreen TVs with S-video inputs.
 
Here are three models and a link to where you can buy them, or at least see a pic:
Sharp LCD19D44U 19" manufactured in 2008
http://www.amazon.com/Sharp-Aquos-LC19D44U-19-Inch-720p/dp/B000WA3N8Y
 
Sharp LC20D42U 20" 2007
http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/item/details/462333803
 
Sharp LC26D42U, LC26D43U  26" 2008
http://www.amazon.com/Sharp-Aquos-LC26D43U-LCD-HDTV/dp/B000NJDGMW
 
I'll have to search other sites and other brands...

[SquirrelM@ster]

The instruction manual says it only works with 60hz.
And it only lists 31.5Khz and up for the VGA port.

I'm a real rookie, so please pardon me. But, does the khz matter if it's going through an RBG adapter? When I called Sharp, the customer service rep said the Khz doesn't matter, just the resolution.
 
Is this true? Does ONLY the S-video input matter?
 
Here's a list of different LCDs with S-vid input:
http://reviews.cnet.com/tvs/?filter=1104537_5000985_500961_113205_500963_20611511_&tag=mncol;dir3

[SquirrelM@ster]

Regarding deinterlacing...
Well, it does and it doesn't
For instance, in GAME mode it doesn't do deinterlacing. So, it behaves just like a, say, 1084 monitor.
In NORMAL mode it does deinterlace, and the hi res WB picture is beautiful. But it has an annoying lag. Cursor moves like on a rubber string. So, maybe for looking at pics. But it is really annoying for work.
 
Well, I still have to test my ViewSonic VX2235wm PC monitor. Maybe I'll get lucky with it Or at least test productivity modes with my A1200...

Have you had a chance to try that ViewSonic VX2235wm? I'm curious how that worked out.

[SquirrelM@ster]

Wrong!

I have been using PC monitors on my Amigas without any silly graphics card since 1990!

It is called a FlickerFixer.  It requires no drivers, no software and no problems and works with any normal PC monitor.  FlickerFixer = 1000% compatible.

Where'd you get it? I'm looking for one on amiga-hardware.com but I don't think that site is maintained--there's no cart to buy anything...

I may need a flicker fixer.

[SquirrelM@ster]

Nopity nope
Well it HAS to do 50 Hz. It's a European PAL TV. It also does 60 Hz and 100 Hz. Tested with my PC.
And I don't have any flicker fixers on my A1200 and A600 So it does 15 KHz. Kickstart screen and everything

I'm looking at this model VIZIO M220VA. It's a decent price, good size, and has VGA. But, customer service says it only goes down to 31.5khz. I think you're right Aga--I will have to bring my Amiga to a store and test out different TVs.
 
Geez. I think I'll skip the s-video adapter.
 
I did a little reading online, and I've read that VGA will give a better picture than S-video. Either way, I feel I have more options in TVs with a VGA adapter, rather than s-video.
 
What do you guys think?

[SquirrelM@ster]

Here is my monitor/tv setup. LG 20" LCD TV via SCART.
 
The display is actually much better in real life then it looks in the pics. Since i took the pics i have adjusted the brightness and set the overscan.

Nice. Good job! Which LG is that? Any adapters?
 
Well, I'm glad you guys have SCART. Here in the US, we don't have that. It appears 15-pin VGA is a standard connection, and s-vid can still be found on TVs as recently made as three years ago...

[SquirrelM@ster]

I just got a 23-pin RGB to 15-pin VGA from Vesalia.de
http://www.vesalia.de/e_amigamonitorcables[6248].htm
 
I haven't connected anything yet, but I have my TV and my cables. I hope it works! Either way, it appears that Vesalia is a good place to get stuff. Very quick shipping.

[SquirrelM@ster]

well I have a 1084s which still works great with my 500 but nothing beats the Indivision AGA flicker fixer from Jens on my 1200 as it rocks all modern monitors

I tried searching, but I didn't find anything from Jens that appears to a live site. Can you post a link, please?

[SquirrelM@ster]

well I have a 1084s which still works great with my 500 but nothing beats the Indivision AGA flicker fixer from Jens on my 1200 as it rocks all modern monitors

What the-? I just found it on amigakit but it's 130 GBP! That's a bit expensive... And no housing? Any other options anyone knows of?