Guidelines to avoid trolling ?

[Karlos]

Guidelines to avoid trolling ?

Well, it seems to me the only way to avoid trolling is to talk about something totally unrelated to Amiga / Pegasos. Say, did I mention my ZXSpectrum?

Seriously, I dunno about everybody else, but I for one am bored to tears whenever either side kicks off. Its' done to death.

Someone asks a question about either platform. Usually within 10 posts it's degenerated into a troll fest.

Alternatively, someone just has to bring up a thread detailing system A's advantage to system B, or worse yet, bring it up in an existing thead purely to ruin it.

[iamaboringperson]

Alternatively, someone just has to bring up a thread detailing system A's advantage to system B, or worse yet, bring it up in an existing thead purely to ruin it.

I hope that wasn't a suggestion! ;-)

[Rodney]

Guidlines?

All people need to remember is:

If they dont like flame wars, dont start them and dont participate with them.

If you have a beef with a user, PM him, dont argue a point or put your point accross and use offensive language in the forum. Send a person a PM instead. Aruge there.

Moderators: if you notice a potential flamewar, delete comments, or if its too late, freeze the threed.

Generaly, if i see someone being a dickhead during the conversationg and i feel the need to say something, i'll PM him so i dont get the rest of the thread involved. But even more generaly, i'll just try to forget it and think, its just a stupid forum. Get over it!

I dont know Guidelines are needed, just some simple common sence and for one to think about their actions and what those actions could bring about!!!

[SlimJim]

The thing is that a "troll" (in the sense
"controversial") post quickly get replied to,
and even if the original post is moderated away
these replies might themselves be heated an
generate agressive respones.
 
An idea would be for the moderators to be able to
lift out all replies (not the controversial post itself)
to a certain post and place them in a "Flame-fest"
forum. Everyone replying to the deemed troll-post
will have the replies posted in that forum and will
have to go there to follow the discussion. The
original, controversial post will not have been
modded away (causing dispute on bias etc), but
will be marked with a red text "Controversial post -
replies are moved to Flame Area" or somesuch. An
alternative (perhaps easier to implement) is to have,
instead of moving them, the replies to such a post
only appear if you have that option selected in your
prefs.
 Would incur some big changes in the forum code I
suppose though...
.
SlimJim

[blubbe]

Pherhaps using your brain is the best advice here.
I mean, does there HAVE to be a "Posting on Amiga.org for dummies", really ?

Should posters look threw a sheet for allowed phrases to use when adding comments ?

[DaveP]

In todays world government councils need to put up signs on cliffs saying "dont jump off, it will hurt".

The tendancy is to troll then claim you didn't know the rules. The rules being accessible and unverisally understood means that if you pariticpate on the forum you accept the rules.

Weasel clause no longer applies then.

[Framiga]

by mikeymike on 2003/8/22 14:03:42

Hmm, guidelines to avoid trolling, let's see...

The people you talk to on forums are people you don't know. You also don't know their age.

How would you talk face to face with people you don't know?

Do you swear in front of kids?

It's that simple.

(not directed at anyone in particular)

I agree 100% with you.

Often (not only here) people abuse of the term "troll" only because he isn't be able to answer to a question.

IMHO hypocrisy is the real problem on the net and not a so called innocuous "troll".

Ciao

[bbrv]

1. Treat others as you want to be treated.
2. Do your best ( Be all you can be!  :-D  ).
3. Do the right thing.

addendum: As long as there are bad people that do bad things there have to be good guys that do bad things better...;-)

Guess who?!

[that_punk_guy]

SlimJim wrote:
The thing is that a "troll" (in the sense
"controversial") post quickly get replied to,
and even if the original post is moderated away
these replies might themselves be heated an
generate agressive respones.
 
An idea would be for the moderators to be able to
lift out all replies (not the controversial post itself)
to a certain post and place them in a "Flame-fest"
forum. Everyone replying to the deemed troll-post
will have the replies posted in that forum and will
have to go there to follow the discussion. The
original, controversial post will not have been
modded away (causing dispute on bias etc), but
will be marked with a red text "Controversial post -
replies are moved to Flame Area" or somesuch. An
alternative (perhaps easier to implement) is to have,
instead of moving them, the replies to such a post
only appear if you have that option selected in your
prefs.
 Would incur some big changes in the forum code I
suppose though...
.
SlimJim

I think a flame-fest forum would only encourage flamers and trolls. OS News has a little section where they keep "modded-down" posts on display. It would be okay if it wasn't possible to reply to them directly, but I don't know why Amiga.org would want to waste  time and bandwidth giving trolls a place to flame away.

[Framiga]

However . . i personally, am not agree of wichever sort of censorship by the moderator (exept for personal insult, ofenses or so).

A so called trolling poster, could be "troll" for you but even useful for other.

Who decide "what is right and what is wrong"?

I think that could be the user that decide and not any sort of "Grande Fratello".

Coccini Franco (age 46)

Ciao

[CodeSmith]

bbrv wrote:
1. Treat others as you want to be treated.
2. Do your best ( Be all you can be!  :-D  ).
3. Do the right thing.

addendum: As long as there are bad people that do bad things there have to be good guys that do bad things better...;-)

Guess who?!

That's all fair and good offline, especially in light of current world events, but I'd be hard-pressed to find "good guys" and "bad people" in amiga.org.  There are some that should probably take a walk around the block before they post, but calling them "bad people" is pushing it (OK, maybe "jerks" ;-))

[blubbe]

bbrv wrote:
1. Treat others as you want to be treated.
2. Do your best ( Be all you can be!  ).
3. Do the right thing.

addendum: As long as there are bad people that do bad things there have to be good guys that do bad things better...

Guess who?!
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That's all fair and good offline, especially in light of current world events, but I'd be hard-pressed to find "good guys" and "bad people" in amiga.org. There are some that should probably take a walk around the block before they post, but calling them "bad people" is pushing it (OK, maybe "jerks" )

Somehow, Im reading something completely different into those lines  8-)

[CodeSmith]

Well, if he's suggesting that the blue camp is somehow "good" and the red camp is somehow "evil", then he needs to go on a nice long holiday (I'd suggest a nice 3-4 week cruise somewhere exotic) - I'd say work is getting to him.

[iamaboringperson]

bbrv

3. Do the right thing.

I have a problem with people who say that, since not all are in agreeance with what 'the right thing' is. IMO there are only so few values that are common among all(or most) of us.

:-)

[iamaboringperson]

CodeSmith wrote:
Well, if he's suggesting that the blue camp is somehow "good" and the red camp is somehow "evil", then he needs to go on a nice long holiday (I'd suggest a nice 3-4 week cruise somewhere exotic) - I'd say work is getting to him.

CodeSmith I don't think he was suggesting that, at all.

[CodeSmith]

Right, no-one who's gotten as far in life as he has could have such a naive outlook.  That's why I initially assumed he was talking about the world in general.