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Re: Public release of MorphOS 3.2
« on: May 27, 2013, 10:54:18 PM »
oh yeah!
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Re: Public release of MorphOS 3.2 [ISO-problem solved!]
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2013, 11:25:44 AM »
looks nice for powerbook, I think there are 3G&WiFi ones too
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Re: Public release of MorphOS 3.2
« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2013, 03:09:11 PM »
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Well, I would prefer an good-priced board  that's not a deadend and cheap to replace, like the Raspberry Pi.


Unless you plan to run your OS hosted like AROS I would prefer avoiding ARM hardware as the interesting bits like 3D&Video acceleration are usually closed source and the support is achieved through the use of binary objects supplied by manofacturer. I would prefer x86-64 hardware as it's more open, more powerful and even easier to replace than ARM hardware.

Since team's resources are tight I prefer having nice powerbooks, mac minis and G5 machines to wait the years we'll need to wait for a proper port. Losing 68k transparent compatibility won't be nice but I guess we'll have to stick to UAE based solutions (not so nice but better than nothing).

About Raspberry Pi: even wondered why there's no proper Android port? the cpu is very weak without GPU assistance.
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Re: Public release of MorphOS 3.2
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2013, 04:19:59 PM »
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Well, I can program the accelerated DispmanX interface on the Raspberry Pi without any binary blobs. It's enough for an accelerated desktop compositor, as you can see in the Wayland for Raspberry Pi project.


oh! it seems that 6 months ago Broadcom opensourced some closed source drivers and that most manofacturers won't give you access to the sources.

I was looking at the sources and it looked like external libraries to me (closed source ones until 6 months ago, like most ARM stuff out there).
-DUSE_EXTERNAL_OMX -DHAVE_LIBBCM_HOST -DUSE_EXTERNAL_LIBBCM_HOST
src/rpi-bcm-stubs.h

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That's not true at all. The Rpi foundation has expressed many times that they're not wasting resources on a proper Android port with full hardware integration because running this OS is not among the Rpi project goals.


Afaik Broadcom lost interest on it and without opensource drivers it was more difficult, but I may be wrong

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And I understand it perfectly. I ran Android on the Pandaboard_ES for a while (with both accelerated video and audio APIs)


If the manofacturer of a motherboard (sold with linux as main OS) didn't even support LINUX it would be sad, wouldn't it? That doesn't mean the chip manofacturer is going to supply valuable information to develop drivers for some strange, unknown OS

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and I came to the conclusion that it's nonsense to have it as a development/experimentation/desktop OS.
Rpi's CPU may not be very fast, but there's no Android platform running the graphical layer on the CPU: it's naturally bounded to GPUs.


it's linux after all.

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This is the future of Amiga OS, the only possible future it has in the long term.


Running on ARM instead of x86-64? I don't think so. Phone me when you use ARM desktops. Do you compile all your ARM stuff on x86-64 machines or do you use those ARM toys? Just curious, because most of people developing for ARM simply crosscompile from a serious proper and fast machine.

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Behold, for you will remember my words: AROS on an open hardware platform. It's already booting on the Pi.


I read Kalamatee's message on Aros-Dev list some time ago,

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When this OS4/MOS absurdity ends, open source Amiga OS will rule, as it's naturally destined to be.


It's funny but sometimes linux users preach about opensourceness while they are using closed source drivers :-) It seems they confuse linux with opensourceness and don't know that if something runs linux or runs on top on linux it doesn't mean everything is opensourced or documented.

I would prefer using some nice i7 with a powerful Radeon instead of a toy. But people advocating for ARM usually doesn't even use amiga like systems at all so they don't feel the need of power. Do you use your Raspberry Pi as your main computer? don't you? If you don't then perhaps your arguments are bogus.

I like opensource but I like OS variety. Now go spam linux users complaining about distro absurdity and ask them to join a single distro.
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