Switching to MorphOS

[mt12345]

Yes, I meant IDE adapter. But  I'm worried about wearing out the card.

[Iggy]

Yes, I meant IDE adapter. But  I'm worried about wearing out the card.

Interesting, I'd never considered that. Heck, it hadn't even occurred to me that I could use a Compact Flash Card to IDE adapter.
Can you wear out a CF card? None of the memory cards I use for my cameras shows any signs of giving up, but you are discussing a much more active use for this device

[mt12345]

Can you wear out a CF card? None of the memory cards I use for my cameras shows any signs of giving up, but you are discussing a much more active use for this device

Flash memory card/pendrive should survive around 100 000 writes (older cards  10 000). So you can shoot 100 000 pictures using your camera. But if you boot windows or linux from it, especially with journaling file system, your card will die after year or two.  There were even cases when card died after few weeks. So I was wondering how morphos handles this.

[Iggy]

Flash memory card/pendrive should survive around 100 000 writes (older cards  10 000). So you can shoot 100 000 pictures using your camera. But if you boot windows or linux from it, especially with journaling file system, your card will die after year or two.  There were even cases when card died after few weeks. So I was wondering how morphos handles this.

Definitely a question that would be better suited to this site:

http://www.morphzone.org

You've made me both curious and cautious on this question.

[mt12345]

Definitely a question that would be better suited to this site:

http://www.morphzone.org

Definitely. Unfortunately I cannot post there as they don't register new users.

[Iggy]

Definitely. Unfortunately I cannot post there as they don't register new users.

Really? I thought their move to a new server would only temporarily disable the registration of new users.
Let me double check for you...

...Nope, you're right, still no new registrations being taken. I posted an inquiry asking about when this would change.

[gazgod]

The big problem with using compact flash in windows/linux is the swap file useage soon write the max number of writes, with morphos and SFS filesystem the number of writes done by the os ahould only be when files physically change ie install os, applications or write a data file. I've used a CF in my efika with no noticable problems and was considering using one as the OS drive in my Peg 2.

Of coarse if you use the system a lot then eventually you will hit the max number of writes and your CF will degrade but that point will happen a lot later on an amiga or amiga like system (not counting OS4 with swap turned on) then it will with a Windows or  Linux box.

[magnetic]

gazgod

How long will a cf last in say an a1200 beings used 3 times a week?

[runequester]

gazgod

How long will a cf last in say an a1200 beings used 3 times a week?

I imagine it'd outlive your 1200 to be honest.

Im about a year into mine, and not a single error so far. I've installed a LOT of stuff, and deleted just as much.

[magnetic]

Rune

What are your speeds with that card and a1200?

[runequester]

Rune

What are your speeds with that card and a1200?

hm, I'd have to check. Let me see what I can do tomorrow

[mt12345]

I posted an inquiry asking about when this would change.

Thanks!

[mt12345]

The big problem with using compact flash in windows/linux is the swap file useage soon write the max number of writes, with morphos and SFS filesystem the number of writes done by the os ahould only be when files physically change ie install os, applications or write a data file. I've used a CF in my efika with no noticable problems and was considering using one as the OS drive in my Peg 2.

Of coarse if you use the system a lot then eventually you will hit the max number of writes and your CF will degrade but that point will happen a lot later on an amiga or amiga like system (not counting OS4 with swap turned on) then it will with a Windows or  Linux box.

Exactly. Swap kills the card. But even if you turn the swap off (in linux or windows) I think these systems still write more often than amiga-like systems.
BTW: Do I have to 'shut down' MorphOS before I turn the computer off or  just push the power button like I do in Aros?

[jacadcaps]

Exactly. Swap kills the card. But even if you turn the swap off (in linux or windows) I think these systems still write more often than amiga-like systems.
BTW: Do I have to 'shut down' MorphOS before I turn the computer off or  just push the power button like I do in Aros?

A card (or even better, a SSD disk) nowadays usually comes with sector management which should help even against swap - but why would you use swap on such systems in first place? Buy enough RAM and forget about swap.

You can shut down immediately. Doing it from Ambient is usually faster than doing this via the power button though.

[Piru]

Doing it from Ambient is usually faster than doing this via the power button though.

And it's even faster to type "shutdown" and hit enter in shell

[mt12345]

OK I'm almost convinced.
I'm gonna buy powermac soon.
But basically I'm a laptop guy.
Piru, when can we expect support for ibook/powerbook?
(I don't care if touchpad or sleep/wake ain't working)