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Title: MorphOS Netflix Support
Post by: anglosaxonusa on September 09, 2013, 08:25:27 PM
Does MorphOS run Netflix?  If so, how is the performance?

The OS seems to do most of what my wife and I would need from our primary computer, however, Netflix is the wildcard.  We do not have a television and instead watch Netflix occasionally.  I don't want to break our "TV".

Appreciated.
Title: Re: MorphOS Netflix Support
Post by: Themamboman on September 09, 2013, 09:22:45 PM
I'm pretty sure Netflix uses Microsoft Silverlight for the streaming format.  

Anyone know if they offer an alternative to that?  If so, then there might be a chance.
Title: Re: MorphOS Netflix Support
Post by: Matt_H on September 09, 2013, 11:20:11 PM
It uses Silverlight, so not possible on MorphOS. The project to make an open-source version of Silverlight through reverse engineering appears to be dead, so even a port of that wouldn't help.

There are some roundabout solutions that PPC Mac users have used to get Netflix, but none of them involve running it directly. It's streamed from some other source over VNC or something similar - highly impractical.
Title: Re: MorphOS Netflix Support
Post by: Faerytale on September 09, 2013, 11:28:40 PM
Netflix works on my iphone. So iphone uses silverlight?
Title: Re: MorphOS Netflix Support
Post by: nicholas on September 09, 2013, 11:55:16 PM
Quote from: Faerytale;747390
Netflix works on my iphone. So iphone uses silverlight?


Nope it uses an iOS app for the DRM instead.
Title: Re: MorphOS Netflix Support
Post by: takemehomegrandma on September 10, 2013, 12:01:02 AM
Netflix uses VC-1 AP (Advanced Profile) encoding together with PlayReady DRM (Digital Rights Management).
Title: Re: MorphOS Netflix Support
Post by: anglosaxonusa on September 10, 2013, 12:38:54 AM
Quote from: Matt_H;747389
It uses Silverlight, so not possible on MorphOS. The project to make an open-source version of Silverlight through reverse engineering appears to be dead, so even a port of that wouldn't help.

There are some roundabout solutions that PPC Mac users have used to get Netflix, but none of them involve running it directly. It's streamed from some other source over VNC or something similar - highly impractical.


We currently run Ubuntu and I installed a Netflix client through a PPM.  Netflix comes up fullscreened in a "Wine Browser".  Beyond the occasional Silverlight plugin upgrade there hasn't been an issue running Netflix on Ubuntu.
Title: Re: MorphOS Netflix Support
Post by: magnetic on September 10, 2013, 03:25:17 AM
So basically u are running netflix through an emulator (wine)

So to answer OP question NO and not going to happen. Its proprietary.
Title: Re: MorphOS Netflix Support
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on September 10, 2013, 03:37:31 AM
What about other comparable services, such as Amazon Prime video?  Would that meet your needs?  Think that only requires Flash... not that I know too much about it though, I bittorrent everything and just run it in VLC.  Heh.  ;)

Edit - never mind, I just tried it, and it looks like Amazon uses Silverlight, too.  :(
Title: Re: MorphOS Netflix Support
Post by: Iggy on September 10, 2013, 04:30:23 AM
Yeah, uh, its not likely that MorphOS will support Netflix.

Netflix doesn't even support older Macs (like the PPC models that run MorphOS) under OSX.

It would be nice, but its not happening.

Also, I use a cheap set top box to stream video like this, so I've got better things to do with my computers.
Title: Re: MorphOS Netflix Support
Post by: Duce on September 10, 2013, 04:30:27 AM
Not possible in a native fashion, unfortunately.

Suppose if you wanted to use some VNC type service to another Netflix capable PC, that's an option, but a little self defeating.
Title: Re: MorphOS Netflix Support
Post by: nyteschayde on September 10, 2013, 04:32:46 AM
Working at Netflix I can tell you that only the latest and greatest of the browsers will support the new and upcoming HTML5 version of the player. Currently the site uses Silverlight as another member mentioned.

This is also not by Netflix's choice but rather by the DRM happy in Hollywood.
Title: Re: MorphOS Netflix Support
Post by: pVC on September 10, 2013, 06:50:02 AM
Quote from: nyteschayde;747414
Working at Netflix I can tell you that only the latest and greatest of the browsers will support the new and upcoming HTML5 version of the player. Currently the site uses Silverlight as another member mentioned.


Well, then there's a better chance! OWB on MorphOS is pretty good with HTML5...
Title: Re: MorphOS Netflix Support
Post by: develin on September 10, 2013, 07:52:51 AM
Maybe the change will come sooner or later (seems that silverlight will become EOL in 2021) -> http://techblog.netflix.com/2013/04/html5-video-at-netflix.html
A part form that using Netflix via Wine on Linux isn't a really nice experience since it requires a hell lot of more CPU that using it under native Windows.
I had good hope in Moonlight (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moonlight_(runtime)) but since the DRM is locked to Silverlight this wont help to use it for Netflix sadly.
Title: Re: MorphOS Netflix Support
Post by: Honkybear on September 10, 2013, 09:24:51 AM
Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;747406
What about other comparable services, such as Amazon Prime video?  Would that meet your needs?  Think that only requires Flash... not that I know too much about it though, I bittorrent everything and just run it in VLC.  Heh.  ;)

Edit - never mind, I just tried it, and it looks like Amazon uses Silverlight, too.  :(


Yes me too :laugh1: What I would like to see would be a port of XBMC to MorphOS now that would be nice.
Title: Re: MorphOS Netflix Support
Post by: nicholas on September 10, 2013, 10:19:24 AM
Quote from: develin;747423
Maybe the change will come sooner or later (seems that silverlight will become EOL in 2021) -> http://techblog.netflix.com/2013/04/html5-video-at-netflix.html
A part form that using Netflix via Wine on Linux isn't a really nice experience since it requires a hell lot of more CPU that using it under native Windows.
I had good hope in Moonlight (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moonlight_(runtime)) but since the DRM is locked to Silverlight this wont help to use it for Netflix sadly.


Netflix works perfectly well on Linux using the Pipelight plugin and doesn't take any extra CPU power than on Windows.

http://m.webupd8.org/2013/08/pipelight-use-silverlight-in-your-linux.html?m=1
Title: Re: MorphOS Netflix Support
Post by: nicholas on September 10, 2013, 10:22:13 AM
Quote from: nyteschayde;747414
Working at Netflix I can tell you that only the latest and greatest of the browsers will support the new and upcoming HTML5 version of the player. Currently the site uses Silverlight as another member mentioned.

This is also not by Netflix's choice but rather by the DRM happy in Hollywood.


Isn't Netflix HTML5 version actually HTML5+Proprietary MS DRM crap that only works with IE11?
Title: Re: MorphOS Netflix Support
Post by: nicholas on September 10, 2013, 10:23:41 AM
Quote from: anglosaxonusa;747394
We currently run Ubuntu and I installed a Netflix client through a PPM.  Netflix comes up fullscreened in a "Wine Browser".  Beyond the occasional Silverlight plugin upgrade there hasn't been an issue running Netflix on Ubuntu.


Use Pipelight instead, it's much better.
Title: Re: MorphOS Netflix Support
Post by: Mr_Bumpy on September 10, 2013, 05:09:02 PM
Quote from: magnetic;747404
So basically u are running netflix through an emulator (wine)


(W)ine (I)s (N)ot an (E)mulator.

;)