SAMs 440/460

[yakumo9275]

I notice sams are out of stock everywhere. Any have updates on the 460ex??

I sold some junk on ebay now I'm like mmmm save up for a 460ex to play with or buy another upper receiver and build a new FN-FAL...

I had thought the 460ex was going to hit in january some time...

[yakumo9275]

I have a bunch of newegg parts lined up (sata card with correct chipset, radeon 4650 low profile, 2gb sodimm, sata hd, sata cd/dvd burner..) just doing the should I shouldnt I thing right now...

[yakumo9275]

If I wanted a macmini or powermac I'd get one. I've run morphos on efika. I'm not interested in another lowspec box with radeon9250 with 32mb memory when I can put a radeon hd 4650 1gb on the sam and run 2gb ram. macmini needs a better video card and it would be really sweet.

this is just for hobby, so if I was not gonna build a sam I'd be building a semi automatic rifle. shrugs, 99% of my time would still be spent on my quad core 16gb ram dev workstation.

[yakumo9275]

Interestingly this "low spec" mac mini is faster than SAM 460. Oh and it does 3D, too.

I'd rather have a slightly slower cpu with more ram and better video card and more bandwidth. Its still a 1ghz ppc460 with fpu, just lacking altivec

how many windows can morphos do for composition/3d with a 32mb radeon 9250 vs a radeonhd 4650 1gb on my sam build amigaos 4.1 when your running a 1920x1200 screen?

333mhz DDR PC2700 vs 533 mhz DDR2 PC4200...

that 'faster' mac mini has a lot of deficiencies vs the sam 460 board.

the sam460 fpu is no match for having altivec instructions tho...

[yakumo9275]

Are there PCI version of the 4650? I wasn't aware there were. Or are you referring to the SAM460 with its X4 PCk-e slot. I haven't seen a 460 without a PCI video card yet.

yeah I am talking a pci-e 4650 on the 4x lane of the sam460

Besides, my 1.8 Ghz 7447A will run circles around your SAM.

yeah, have fun with that awesome radeon 9000. dont choke on that amazing 133mhz bus speed while your back there on the quicksilver.

(typing from my quadcore workstation with 16gb ram and 8tb disk).

I'd only go back to morphos when it has full G5 support with quad cpu and full 64bit VM for memory access. Otherwise I dont particuarly want a hand me down macintosh workstation. I have a workstation, I want something small, macmini is nice and small but I am not interested in a mac mini or I would have posted a thread on macmini's. Apparently posting a thread on sam460 was enough to rain on some morphos dudes parades.

right now I'd rather buy an upper receiver and finish building this than a macmini and morphos license

[yakumo9275]

I'd be more worried about trying to run an X16 video card in an X4 skot (never mind the really slow processor in the SAM460).
Care to run comparative benchmarks?

maybe you should read the frigging thread from the begining, this thread would not exist if I already owned one to freaking benchmark. I do not own one, I have some money from selling some stuff on ebay, so I thought mmm maybe I could buy a sam 460ex motherboard.. thats a neat idea..

By the way, what's the assault rifle? Lo0ks cool. I'm limited to my lowly Daewoo K2 with a third part stock.

1954 Belgian FN-FAL.

Bet when MorphOS supports G5s and Radeon XT850 XTs , my system will still make yours look like a turtle.

Sure, and I even said, when MoS supports G5's and can use all 16gb ram, I'll be looking at it for sure with bells on!

I dont consider macmini video card adequate enough, I had a 128mb ram 9250 on my efika and that was fine with mos. but the common 32mb, no, and even the 64mb on 1.5ghz I dont consider good enough

[yakumo9275]

You should take this a little less seriously. Its a hobby dude and as far as I can tell that's all its likely to ever be. You're coming off as a little overwrought.

Take your own advice dude. I started this thread about the SAM because I am interested in the sam460 and amigaos 4.1. You were the one to come in and crap all over it with your my powermac runs circles around sam

[yakumo9275]

I do believe Hans de Ruiter is working on composition/3d for the 4000 series currently. It is his dirver acube ship with sam460

[yakumo9275]

Hans says he is not working on 3D for any of the cards.

from his website;

While the current drivers (as on Saturday 15 January, 2011) lack compositing support for Radeon HD 2000-4000 series cards; this will not remain so for long. When I started writing the drivers my goal was to bring support for modern graphics cards complete with shader support to the Amiga, and it will happen. There are no release dates yet, but it is coming

So one could infer that he is working on the composition side (what I meant, when I said 3D, I should have said composition, my bad).

[yakumo9275]

doesnt the 460 also have more cache which is what gives it a vast improvement over the 440?