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Operating System Specific Discussions => Other Operating Systems => Topic started by: kickstart on November 21, 2013, 04:16:52 PM
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Hi...
Im looking for a music player, since years im using apolo mp3 player, is light and read many formats but freezes times under windows 7.
I dont like itunes or bloatware like it, im want a light players that read many formats, any ideas?
Thanks
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Winamp. Winamp Winamp Winamp. Plugins for absolutely every format under the sun, lightweight at least in the older versions (I use 5.01, never have had a need to upgrade,) excellent shell integration, and you can completely disable all the media-library stuff if you want (which I do.)
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WinAmp and all its websupports ends on december 20th. WinAmp development has been terminated, so on long term you need a new player.
Especially if security leaks are found in the existing version, you ran out of options.
There is a small chance it gets open source one day.
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http://www.foobar2000.org/
:)
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WinAmp and all its websupports ends on december 20th. WinAmp development has been terminated, so on long term you need a new player.
Especially if security leaks are found in the existing version, you ran out of options.
There is a small chance it gets open source one day.
Why the hell would you need a new player when Winamp will still play all the file formats it currently plays with all the functionality it currently has? And even if someone bothered to find security holes in it (like there aren't a million better targets out there,) you could just, y'know, disable its Internet functionality altogether (you can do this at least up to 5.01, probably later.)
I swear, the Cult of Constant Updates is really getting on my nerves...
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Try BZR Player, by Blazer over at English Amiga Board. It plays all kinds of Amiga formats, in addition to MP3 and the other common formats.
http://bzrplayer.blazer.nu/
http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=35976
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Bye bye WinAmp, sniff sniff, I would miss you but I have not used you in many years.
:(
http://arstechnica.com/business/2013/11/after-15-years-of-llama-whipping-aol-shuts-down-winamp-for-good/
AmiAmp still looks good.
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I swear, the Cult of Constant Updates is really getting on my nerves...
I call it insane to use windows software without installing all updates. This includes non system stuff, too.
Most trojans and viruses come through bugs in third party software not up to date and WinAmp is a target worth attaching because of its number of active users. Especially when updates are not provided for a while.
Not updating stuff like java and flash (if installed) is the best way to get your system infected quite easy.
Geit
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Sonique 1.96 (Stay away from release 2).
It is a older player, with tons of skins and visuals. Used it for 10+ Years, works fine in windows 7 64 bit.
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I call it insane to use windows software without installing all updates. This includes non system stuff, too.
Most trojans and viruses come through bugs in third party software not up to date and WinAmp is a target worth attaching because of its number of active users. Especially when updates are not provided for a while.
Not updating stuff like java and flash (if installed) is the best way to get your system infected quite easy.
Which totally matches up entirely with my having used old (not even remotely current) versions of Winamp for over a decade and never once having been infected via it. Definitely a huge risk.
Just turn the damn Internet features off. It's super-freaking-easy.
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MusicBee (http://getmusicbee.com/)
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Which totally matches up entirely with my having used old (not even remotely current) versions of Winamp for over a decade and never once having been infected via it. Definitely a huge risk.
Just turn the damn Internet features off. It's super-freaking-easy.
Well CJ I agree with you on this one. People who think they need supported applications and patch update support for them definitely do.
Winamp don't use Java or Flash. Its a #@*&#@ 32 bit executable. One day its file requestor might stop working but at the mo she's a go.
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That's a shame. The main reason i use Windows as my main os is because of WinAmp.
Internet connectivity has its uses such as Gracenote which is really useful when using obscure tunes. But i agree it's not really needed (apart from Gracenote).
Also i just did a quick Google search and apparently Microsoft is buying it. I wonder what they will do with it?
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That's a shame. The main reason i use Windows as my main os is because of WinAmp.
Internet connectivity has its uses such as Gracenote which is really useful when using obscure tunes. But i agree it's not really needed (apart from Gracenote).
Also i just did a quick Google search and apparently Microsoft is buying it. I wonder what they will do with it?
They are going to dig a hole and bury it so that it will stop making their lame Windows Media Player look so bad. They won't do it real obvious. They will just keep "accidentally" making it worse and worse to make ppl quit using it. Then after the proper amount of time has passed they will pull the plug and bury it in the WinAmp shaped hole in the flower garden of Franko's back yard. :p
Music Players for Windoze 7:
WinAmp 2.9 / 2.x Many ppl use this and say it does everything they need it to do while using a tiny tiny amount of CPU power and RAM.
WinAmp v5.x+ Some ppl don't like WinAmp 2.x and the v5.x is the only other version worth getting. V3 was bugged and bogged down with bloat. V4 had problems too.
I had some version of WinAmp on my Windoze XP computer for many years but I had not used it for maybe a year then my XP puter blew up and I got a new W7 puter but I never got around to installing WinAmp.
DeliPlayer 2.5: I use this to play mods on Windoze 7 but I can't exactly recommend it. Its rather buggy and has problems. But it exists and I do manage to get it to work for me. Try it if you like. You'll have to run it in "compatibility mode" on W7.
BZRplayer: I use this to play any mods that Deliplayer won't.
Zplayer: The very best movie player I have ever used on any platform. It has about 10 trillion features. Seems to play most nonmod music formats.
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I am using 5.572.
As much as i like it it does have flaws. Hates playing videos, keyboard shortcuts are buggy, maybe a little too complicated for my liking.
For me a good media player sits in the corner with as minimal controls and features as possible. Winamp does this perfect for me. It sits at the top of my screen from the left to the right in a toolbar like skin. Everything else WimAmp offers is a waste to me except the playlist format which i love. I also love the way it saves the EQ settings for each track in your library. The rest of it is nonsense.
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Which totally matches up entirely with my having used old (not even remotely current) versions of Winamp for over a decade and never once having been infected via it. Definitely a huge risk.
Just turn the damn Internet features off. It's super-freaking-easy.
Oh, my god. You really have no clue how this works. Ever heard about gif or jpg files infecting a system? No? Poor you.
Hacking can be done by a prepared file. You just need to download the right media file, it triggers a bug/overflow/underun and boom.
never once having been infected via it.
lol, is there a help bubble reporting "This trojan brought to you by Flash"?
People like you keep bot nets and the virus checker industry alive.
Geit
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Thanks for all the help foobar and brxplayer looks good, and.. totally off topic but im still having much problems of login and post here.
About the updated software... sometimes updating means errors and new bugs.
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Ever heard about gif or jpg files infecting a system?
No, I haven't, because GIFs and JPEGs do not contain executable code. There is no possible way they could be a vector for infection unless A. you were using some kind of malware image-viewer program that deliberately executed some kind of metadata in the EXIF information as if it were code, and you just happened to view specific images that contained a virus payload designed specifically for that viewer, or B. it's actually a VBScript or other executable file named something like picture.jpg.vbs (in which case it's not actually a GIF or JPEG) and you've got extension hiding in Windows turned on so you only see picture.jpg, in which case it's your fault for not turning extension hiding off to prevent exactly that.
I swear, next you're going to tell me that "hackers can turn your computer into a bomb!" (http://www.homelandsecureit.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Computer_bomb.jpg)
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No, I haven't, because GIFs and JPEGs do not contain executable code. There is no possible way they could be a vector for infection unless A. you were using some kind of malware image-viewer program that deliberately executed some kind of metadata in the EXIF information as if it were code, and you just happened to view specific images that contained a virus payload designed specifically for that viewer, or B. it's actually a VBScript or other executable file named something like picture.jpg.vbs (in which case it's not actually a GIF or JPEG) and you've got extension hiding in Windows turned on so you only see picture.jpg, in which case it's your fault for not turning extension hiding off to prevent exactly that.
I swear, next you're going to tell me that "hackers can turn your computer into a bomb!" (http://www.homelandsecureit.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Computer_bomb.jpg)
You once again proved to have no clue how this works. Of course there are .gif or .jpg files which are simple scripts or even executables hidden in mail attachments. Those are not ment here.
I talk about manipulated image files, where e.g. some numberic information for decoding is simply wrong and triggers a crash. In such case the guy who manipulated the file planted code inside the image file and uses the "crash", which normaly would happen, to run exactly that data. So, yes. There can be executable data in any media file and it can infect your system, if it is used by the matching version of application, where the bug is still in.
This is exactly what is used to e.g. hack a system using a word document. Or those manipulated PDF files, or even movies where codec errors are used to get control over your system, by letting them crash.
That is why it is important to keep stuff which you frequently feed with data from some external source up to date. If you only create your own PDF or AVI files, that quite ok, but when it comes to surfing, you will get any virus in the world for free, if you just pick the right file download and display it.
There is no need to double click a mail attachment. Even the Playstation2 gets hacked that way. You simply plant a modified DVD Player onto MemoryCard and the console crashes even before the Playstation Logo appears and shows the hacker menu. It does it all the time, because the PS2 does not even have flash memory. It got hacked because the Firmware in ROM has a bug, which gets used to launch own software.
Just visiting the right websites may causes your system to be taken over, because you did no apply the latest fixes for media decoding or the browser itself.
Geit
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So for you unbridled neurotics who can't fathom using software that doesn't come out with a new version every three days, Winamp has been bought by a company that apparently actually gives a damn about it. (http://techcrunch.com/2014/01/14/aol-sells-winamp-and-shoutcast-for-5-10m-to-radionomy-takes-12-stake-in-belgian-digital-audio-company/) Let's cross our fingers that being bought by a media/advertising network doesn't herald the inclusion of a bunch of crapware with a damn fine media player, but at least it's not dead for the moment.
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Radionomy makes a great iOS/Android app. Hopefully they'll make Winamp touch friendly.
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That's great news. I always loved Winamp although I don't use it now. This media player capability is interesting though. How does it go with 1080 mkv's? ;)
As to Geits succinct point on JPGs crashing and executing code within the jpg file as an exit, I laughed and laughed until I saw the share price of McAfee now Intel.
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Just use Winamp. Best standalone player around. Grab an older version if you want to avoid some of the bloat that came into Winamp in more modern versions. Some of the older versions of time tested software are still the best, check out http://www.oldversion.com/
(that being said, everything Geit said about infection vectors is 110% true, so do your homework on security if using older versions)
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(that being said, everything Geit said about infection vectors is 110% true, so do your homework on security if using older versions)
Cool, if you, Geit, or anyone else could send me one of the infected JPGs that miraculously knows the program that's executing it, and also knows what OS and potential runtime the viewer is running in, I will view it with glee.
Once I have run it I will mount it up alongside my stuffed Sasquatch and Unicorn head in the pool room.
Hopefully you were being ironic with the 110% if not it still made me smile.
But off topic.
Winamp on Windows will play high definition 1080 video ?
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Since I see some comments about video playing, I'll throw in a pitch for VLC Media Player. It's free, available in 32-bit and 64-bit versions, runs under Windows, Linux, Mac, even has some obscure executables for formats like Sun, I think, and will play basically any format of movie out there, anywhere, with all sorts of options for display format, audio settings, subtitles, etc. +1 because it's what all the hackers and pirates on The Pirate Bay website use, so they're not likely to hack their own player, LOL.
PS - WinAmp blows, big-time. :p
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Agree IMO it is THE Windows video player. Handbrake plus VLC = joy.
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I have never been able to play any videos properly with WinAmp with any quality. Definitely not 1080p. My current version refuses to play any videos period. I use WinAmp for music and VLC for movies.
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The whole "virus in jpg files" thing started around ten years ago: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/security/bulletin/ms04-028
Only Microsoft makes it possible :)
But I have never heard about any cases of jpg's that actually has harmful code integrated, only false positive reports by antivirus software.
Anyway, it's good to hear that WinAmp has new owners. I personally use WinAmp for music, VLC for videos and IrfanView for pictures on all my Windows computers. And I only use classic skins with WinAmp.
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I have never been able to play any videos properly with WinAmp with any quality. Definitely not 1080p. My current version refuses to play any videos period. I use WinAmp for music and VLC for movies.
I didn't think so. It's more a music / sound file player than a media player.
As to malware in media files im well aware of the Trojan website exposures through phishing. But interesting how that has been interpreted as local execution through an unknown media player/viewer. Still happy to have my ignorance enlightened by anyone willing to send through one of these elusive and dangerous files.
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VLC also plays mp3 files... so you could use it for everything.
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If all else fails VLC will do the job, clean simple and also play most video formats/codecs.
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But does VLC support the eleventy billion different formats Winamp has plugins for? I can listen to SID, NES, SNES, N64, Playstation, Gameboy, GBA, NDS, Genesis, and a bunch of other formats natively in Winamp.
But yeah, Winamp definitely isn't good as a video player. It's just aces for music.
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But does VLC support the eleventy billion different formats Winamp has plugins for? I can listen to SID, NES, SNES, N64, Playstation, Gameboy, GBA, NDS, Genesis, and a bunch of other formats natively in Winamp.
But yeah, Winamp definitely isn't good as a video player. It's just aces for music.
I just gave an alternative, VLC do not support as much audio formats as Winamp with plugins no, it has a decent amount of supported format but not near as much. On the video side tho it eats most.
Depending on what TS wand to listen to he can pick which one he likes the most after trying :)
VLC is quite resource light for slower computers also :)
We will see what happens to Winamp now when Radionomy has obtained it :)
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WinAmp has a visualization plugin for my Alienware laptop's colorful light-up keyboard, so I like it. It was also my choice during my early touch-screen "carputer" days.
Not my video:
[youtube]b4KKPOEIbLE[/youtube]
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Even lighter than VLC (which is great) is IrfanView. Plays audio & video formats, graphic stills (jpeg, Amiga IFF, etc.). It's even a great simple bitmap editor (one of my most used tools). It can even display text files and PDFs to some degree.
Plus it has a portable install package as well.