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AROS vs traditional Amiga vs SAM
« on: November 19, 2008, 10:32:01 AM »
Im starting to take an interest in Aros also. is it like a version of the OS that can run on any platform? (Ala Java-esque?) I havent seen it in action, but it is definitely something that I would like to try out.
 

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Re: AROS vs traditional Amiga vs SAM
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2008, 10:41:38 AM »
It's starting to shape that way, EFIKA, SAM, and a meriade of x86 computer


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Re: AROS vs traditional Amiga vs SAM
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2008, 10:51:15 AM »
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Re: AROS vs traditional Amiga vs SAM
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2008, 10:51:25 AM »
It looks like the Amiga will be around for a long time to come yet.
 

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Re: AROS vs traditional Amiga vs SAM
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2008, 12:29:20 PM »
The last time I looked at AROS (I installed it), there seemed to be absolutely no compatibility with Amiga OS3.1 (which it seems is supposed to be the goal).

Is it yet even able to run a single Amiga program?

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Re: AROS vs traditional Amiga vs SAM
« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2008, 12:29:44 PM »
In terms of "Real" Amiga = custom hardware & official OS, the SAM is the way to go
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Re: AROS vs traditional Amiga vs SAM
« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2008, 12:33:45 PM »
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The last time I looked at AROS (I installed it), there seemed to be absolutely no compatibility with Amiga OS3.1 (which it seems is supposed to be the goal).


This had to do with the UAE Integration bounty, which sadly reopened again, because Richard disappeared.

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Is it yet even able to run a single Amiga program?


There is LunaPaint for AROS, which is quite nice.

http://www.sub-ether.org/lunapaint/
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Re: AROS vs traditional Amiga vs SAM
« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2008, 12:35:24 PM »
Oops... sorry... I saw paint program.  :crazy:
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Re: AROS vs traditional Amiga vs SAM
« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2008, 02:18:25 PM »
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The last time I looked at AROS (I installed it), there seemed to be absolutely no compatibility with Amiga OS3.1 (which it seems is supposed to be the goal).

The goal was to reimplement Amiga API so that Amiga programs could be ported effortlessly, quite a few programs were like directory opus 4, sadly either programs were coded close to the metal in assembler, or their authors saw no interest (or lost their sources in the process) in porting those to AROS, either way it' not due to AROS, you cannot expect a 3.1 program to run on PPC either unless on emulation (which UAE also does in AROS).

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Is it yet even able to run a single Amiga program?

There were some straight ports, but perhaps more importantly AROS in 68k actually runs Amiga programs which then take advantage of some of the advantages brought by AROS, and it's code named AfA AROS


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Re: AROS vs traditional Amiga vs SAM
« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2008, 02:34:56 PM »
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is it like a version of the OS that can run on any platform? (Ala Java-esque?)

No. AROS executables do not run on different AROS platforms, you need separate builds for each target. In fact current AROS applications are not guaranteed to run on future AROS versions either (I think the idea is to recompile when needed). Whether certain AROS version (1.0?) will sement the ABI and provide guaranteed compatibility in the future remains to be seen.
 

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Re: AROS vs traditional Amiga vs SAM
« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2008, 02:50:45 PM »
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Amithony wrote:

It looks like the Amiga will be around for a long time to come yet.

Hi Amithony,

Errr, yeah?

I was going to start a thread about that actually, you may want to.

I can't believe the amount of people that are posting with "join" dates of year 2007 and 2008, here and on AmigaWorld.Net.

Add to that, the amount of people in the last short while who are posting with join dates of 3 and more years ago, and they have under 100 posts, and many with even less than 20!!!!


Anyone else notice?
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Re: AROS vs traditional Amiga vs SAM
« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2008, 02:54:00 PM »
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In terms of "Real" Amiga = custom hardware & official OS, the SAM is the way to go


Except that SAM440, although a good mobo, is neither custom nor official.

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Re: AROS vs traditional Amiga vs SAM
« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2008, 03:13:42 PM »
In regards to my previous comment, it's getting very VERY exciting!!!!!!

(And wait till the NatAmi is produced!)


Also, all this would have been IMPOSSIBLE without the internet. I find that interesting.
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Re: AROS vs traditional Amiga vs SAM
« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2008, 03:19:10 PM »
Dammy is right. SAM is not Amiga. If you remove the AmigaOS, there is nothing inside that reminds Amiga.
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Re: AROS vs traditional Amiga vs SAM
« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2008, 04:14:23 PM »
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In terms of "Real" Amiga = custom hardware & official OS, the SAM is the way to go


Except that SAM440, although a good mobo, is neither custom nor official.

Dammy


However, it is officially supported by Amiga OS 4.1 (with Hyperion Entertainment writing the drivers, etc.) and is being sold as an Amiga. This whole "it's not an Amiga" routine is getting boring.

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