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Re: FS FAAAST ACA1232 50 MHz 128 MB RAM turbocard, faster, than Blizzard 1230 50 MHz!
« Reply #179 from previous page: October 15, 2016, 06:59:03 AM »
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You can try to sell your old ACA1232 for whatever price you want - I'm not gonna dog you for that. But the ACA1233n-40 seems to be a much better spec'd board.

I can assure you that the price on AmigaKit is for a fact $215.89 USD. I just ordered one 10 minutes ago! :) Great price and these won't be around forever. The 1233n-40 seems to be a more feature rich board than even the 1233-55 as the 55 still uses the ACATune tool and can't be controlled thru software (although it's faster). Also ordered Personal Paint 7.3b! :)

Per iComp....

New features (of the ACA1233-40)

Memory auto-configuration
Dynamic clocking for power-saving
card enable/disable in software
memory available to onboard CPU if accelerator is switched off
faster clockport for RapidRoad gives 55% speed increase
new software compatibility settings
improved A1200 compatibility
Memory of the ACA1233n is auto-configuring. This means that all memory is available from a power-up without installing any software on the computer. The old ACAtune tool, which was required for our previous accelerators, is not required any more.

If you do not require full speed, the card can be slowed down in order to save power. The CPU governor program will monitor CPU requirement and adapt to the demands of your application, resulting in the best power/performance ratio for your use case.

Some software does not like accelerated execution. For these cases, the ACA1233n can be switched off in two steps: The first step is to switch off the 68030 CPU and give control to the CPU of the host computer. On an A1200, you can still use 9MBytes of fast memory, which are also auto-configuring. The second step is to switch off additional memory as well, getting the computer into it's stock state. If used on an ACA500 or ACA500plus, memory can NOT be used by the 68ec000 processor.

The clockport of the ACA1233n can either take an RTC module, or the RapidRoad USB host controller. Operation of RapidRoad is 55% faster than with the internal clock port of the A1200 computer. This function is available in all modes of operation on an A1200 computer, and on the ACA500plus. It is not available if the ACA1233n is operated on an ACA500.

If software is not compatible with 32-bit memory, Z3 autoconfig or newer Kickstart version, the ACA1233n allows downgrading to Z2 autoconfig, older Kickstart versions and also lets you switch off the so-called "trapdoor memory area". The MapROM function is even available on an A1200 if the 68030 CPU is switched off! This will let you use different Kickstart ROM versions without opening the computer and exchanging ROM chips.

Last not least, the ACA1233n features a new A1200 motherboard interface. Some A1200 main boards have been delivered with the wrong timing components and require modification for reliable use with accelerators. With the new improved interface, the ACA1233n is less likely to require these board patches. Although this has been tested extensively, timing patches may still be required.

I just hope this doesn't take too long to finish up...
http://wiki.icomp.de/wiki/ACA1233n

So, I jumped down the obligatory rabbit hole!!!!  :lol: (BIG Rabbit!)



PS - HAHAHA! AGAIN I got the last one of another great product from AmigaKit! This has happened to me about 8 times now! the ACA went from Available to Pre-Order right after my order completed! Everything's coming up giZmo!

PSS - I'm gonna send the ACA1233-40 straight off to Acill to have an FPU installed! Along with my A2000 MB to have a recap and corrosion cleaned up & install a coin battery kit! Also an A1200 MB recently bought on eBay for a recap and hole type ROM sockets so I can start using my FAST ATA IDE board again!
« Last Edit: October 15, 2016, 07:17:38 AM by gizmo350 »
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A1200: 2MB Chip, 64MB Fast, 4GBCF, GVP Typhoon 030 @40MHz w/FPU, Subway USB, EasyNet Ethernet, Indi AGA MKI, FastATA MK-IV, Internal Slim CD/DVD-RW, WB3.5

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PSS - I'm gonna send the ACA1233-40 straight off to Acill to have an FPU installed! Along with my A2000 MB to have a recap and corrosion cleaned up & install a coin battery kit! Also an A1200 MB recently bought on eBay for a recap and hole type ROM sockets so I can start using my FAST ATA IDE board again!

You might want to weigh your options regarding the FPU. Jens has said that the 1233n will actually run slower if an FPU is fitted. If I understand him correctly (not a given - he often talks about 25' over my head), it has to do with additional waitstates needed for the FPU which negates much of the speed benefit of the faster RAM and memory interface.

I don't know if that's really the case or he's just trying to discourage people from modifying the card. I don't have enough technical knowledge to evaluate it either way. Just saying that you might want to do some research before modifying so you don't end up not getting the results you were expecting.
« Last Edit: October 15, 2016, 08:07:36 AM by Pgovotsos »
 

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Gizmo350: ACA1233n-40 not better, than my 1232. The aim of the developments the price increase. Many little not important new functions = higher price.
In 2012 1232-40 was 185 Euro, dhrystones 9045.
In 2015 1233-40 was 200 Euro, dhrystones 9045.
In 2016 1233n-40 normal price 240 Euro, dhrystones 9203.

The average user senses nothing of the ACA 030 40 MHz card developments. The speed increment is minimal from 1232-40 to 1233n-40. The speed and functions of my card will be suitable in 2016-2020. My 1232 faster, than original 1232-50, and new 1233n.
The new 1233n software pack (ACAtune not usable, obsolete) not finished, not usable 100%. Hehe.
68882 FPU install to 1233 and 1233n not recommended. Instability, etc.
« Last Edit: October 15, 2016, 12:44:30 PM by Blizzard 128 MB »
 

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pyrre: RARE! The  original ACA1232 50 MHz card was available in November-December 2015.  only, was limited edition, 10-15 pieces, all sold (300 €). This will  never be produced already. ACA1233n 40 MHz 240 Euro! Dhrystones 9203 only. My 1232 11408.

paul1981: Why? What is amibay? This is not the most important retro site on the world. The amibay prices are not authoritative. There are cheap and expensive products everywhere. My 250 Euro price too cheap. Real price min. 300 Euro.

Faerytale: The topic lasts until somebody does not buy it.
@ Blizzard 128 MB
The board in question is still being made, it is the same board for any of the 030 cpus. It can be converted by anyone with skills, the necessary equipment end electronic components. It is not rocket science.
This makes the board pretty common....

I have two 030 rated @ 50Mhz myself, one in use in the derringer. and one spare... I even have one 50Mhz 68882....

And there is no reason to start shouting.....
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@Pgovotsos

Yea, I hear ya...  was thinking if the 1233n can auto-regulate CPU speed then that might be problematic with a fixed frequency FPU. :confused:

On a Polish site, someone has modified a 1233n with FPU... not sure what CPU he has. Maybe someone could shed some light as I don't know Polish language & no time today to translate.

http://www.ppa.pl/forum/amiga/35089/aca1233n-preorder

and pic...... :)



@blizzard 128 mb

You laugh at me? I laugh at you!!!! :lol:

The software will get done and you know it!

DANG! Gotta go to work - my job - where I work! :(
« Last Edit: October 16, 2016, 05:02:06 AM by gizmo350 »
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A1200: 2MB Chip, 64MB Fast, 4GBCF, GVP Typhoon 030 @40MHz w/FPU, Subway USB, EasyNet Ethernet, Indi AGA MKI, FastATA MK-IV, Internal Slim CD/DVD-RW, WB3.5

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What software?
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What software?


The equivalent of ACATune for the ACA1233n. See http://wiki.icomp.de/wiki/ACA1233n
 

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@Pgovotsos  

Thx for posting link that I forgot! Doh! :-)

Note to self: email Jens and ask him if he could at least describe the functionality of the delayed software for the ACA 1233n accelerator under the "General" heading. :razz:

This board might prove to be as much fun as the Indie AGA MKII.... ERMAGURD... what have I gotten myself into this time? HaHa...
« Last Edit: October 16, 2016, 05:04:37 AM by gizmo350 »
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A1200: 2MB Chip, 64MB Fast, 4GBCF, GVP Typhoon 030 @40MHz w/FPU, Subway USB, EasyNet Ethernet, Indi AGA MKI, FastATA MK-IV, Internal Slim CD/DVD-RW, WB3.5

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They used new RAM controller for the 1232-50, if a new controller was needed for the 1233-55.


So your card is different then to the original and rare 1232 50 MHz edition. Yours has faster RAM access due to older SD-Ram controller. That makes your card more desirable in my opinion, providing it's 100% stable like you say so. You can't attach an FPU to it though like 1233/1233n unfortunately.

@gizmo

I remember reading about someone attaching an FPU to ACA1233, probably on EAB.
 

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So your card is different then to the original and rare 1232 50 MHz  edition. Yours has faster RAM access due to older SD-Ram controller.  That makes your card more desirable in my opinion, providing it's 100%  stable like you say so. You can't attach an FPU to it though like  1233/1233n unfortunately.

My card stable on 50 MHz. FPU unnecessary (some program use only). Why you deal with the negative things? There are many positive things. Look: http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=815313&postcount=179
 

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I wish you good luck again on selling your card but perhaps you should consider advertising some where else for obvious reasons
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I wish you good luck again on selling your card but perhaps you should consider advertising some where else for obvious reasons

Where is it possible to advertise yet? EAB and amibay not OK.
 

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Where is it possible to advertise yet? EAB and amibay not OK.

Try craigslist, or whatever your local equivalent of the want ads is.

Maybe you shouldn't have burned your bridges on those other sites, probably would've sold this board months ago.  :lol:
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Try craigslist, or whatever your local equivalent of the want ads is.

Maybe you shouldn't have burned your bridges on those other sites, probably would've sold this board months ago.  :lol:

Doesn't matter what I make, if nobody is shopping because of that only from me, because I advertise it. Nobody can understand it, what kind of distinguished product I advertise cheaply. If the seller is more important, than the product, I use the card. Everybody ridiculous, who pesters me here. Buy a slow card expensively.:roflmao::laugh1::biglaugh:
 

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250 Euro.