FS FAAAST ACA1232 50 MHz 128 MB RAM turbocard, faster, than Blizzard 1230 50 MHz!!

[paul1981]

Where is common sense rules of supply and demand,  or economics?

This has to be my favourite quote so far...

[Blizzard 128 MB]

With 50 MHz CPU 300 Euro + shipping, with 33 MHz CPU 250 Euro + shipping.

[psxphill]

Where is common sense rules of supply and demand,  or economics?
All price unreal, caotic.
The retro Amiga community has only 3-4000 active members on the world. How may 3000 member cause big demand, and high prices?

It is essentially: The lowest price the people who are selling are prepared to accept combined with the highest price the people who are buying are prepared to pay.

So if someone had enough boards to satisfy all the demand and was prepared to sell them for $1 then that is the price. If you have the only one then you set the price, but you may not sell if it's too high.

With equipment like this there is no real value, so it will peak at a certain point where desirability and disposable income is at it's highest and then it will taper off. In fifty years time we'll be dying off and nobody will care about it enough to keep the value high.

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

In fifty years time we'll be dying off

You're saying we'll live another 50 years? That's pretty optimistic.

[Blizzard 128 MB]

It is essentially: The lowest price the people who are selling are prepared to accept combined with the highest price the people who are buying are prepared to pay.

So if someone had enough boards to satisfy all the demand and was prepared to sell them for $1 then that is the price. If you have the only one then you set the price, but you may not sell if it's too high.

With equipment like this there is no real value, so it will peak at a certain point where desirability and disposable income is at it's highest and then it will taper off. In fifty years time we'll be dying off and nobody will care about it enough to keep the value high.

300 Euro real price.

[Blizzard 128 MB]

300 Euro.

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

You know, on Amibay and other sites, they have rules about price bumping every day. :angryfire:

[Mr_Byte]

I first believed that all this was a big joke and a parody, but i am not sure anymore..

[Blizzard 128 MB]

The forum rules make the selling difficult. Some men (important retro persons) founded some forums in 19xy-20xy (amibay, etc.), they was prepared forum rules. The rules serves the founders. The rules hinders me.
The too many rules hinder the shopping and the trading without the fees.
It is the essence of the retro forums that there are not selling fees. Ebay+paypal fees = 15-20 %!!
If I sold a product on ebay 250 Euro, then ebay final value fee  30 USD (27  Euro), paypal fee 13 Euro.
27+13=40 Euro. Brutal. Fees 16 %. 250-40=210 Euro.
The selling and the shopping are impossible quasi on the forums, because of the many rules.
Merely little, if there are not fees.
The fast, free trading is possible nowhere now with little rules. The forum rules should help in the trading.

I want to decide it, if I want to sell something who I sell it to. No the rule, or the moderator let him decide it who I may sell it to.
Let the rule not decide it if I want to buy something I may be shopping, or no. The moderators may prevent the shopping. This occurred with me already. I paid it off, and I may not have bought it after all (amibay).

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

Your last post makes no sense.  Amibay has zero fees if you learn how to use it correctly.

[Blizzard 128 MB]

Other men do not define it what I shall do how.
The ebay, etc. rules simple. X fees, etc.
Why to ask prohibited offers of the customers (bidding)? Amibay.
The highest selling price is the aim.
If 2-5 men want to buy something, why I have to sell it at the lowest price? First buyer (declaring interest...).
The increase of the price is prohibited (amibay). It is possible to reduce the price only. Etc.
Normal trading impossible.

The forums should meld the benefits of the auction sites and the forums, without their disadvantages. Bidding without fees. This does not come true. The moderators (amibay) do not observe their own rules.

[paul1981]

I've seen sellers on amibay increase their item price over time, I don't think there's a rule which states you can only decrease it.

The first in line rule is a good thing. Imagine this.... a super rich Amiga hater who buys everything that's ever for sale on amibay and then destroys it. He creates mass bonfires of Amiga computers and related gear and films them as they burn, after which uploading the videos to youtube.

[Pgovotsos]

The rule you willfully broke repeatedly after being told the rule was to refuse to set a price and demanding offers instead.

Selling the way that YOU want to happens on eBay, not AmiBay. Accept it, it's not going to change.

[Blizzard 128 MB]

Why is the Amiga burning a bad thing?
Why they (amibay moderators) limit the shopping, the collection, the prices, the trading?

[UberFreak]

Why to ask prohibited offers of the customers (bidding)? Amibay.

It's very simple: Amibay is not an Auction site, never was and hopefully never will be.
Also, according to the rules, a seller can state a price and also accept offers (if he/she chooses to).

I think the majority rules there serve their purpose.

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

Why is the Amiga burning a bad thing?

You're right, it's a great thing. How 'bout we start with you posting a video of burning the card you keep trying to flog on this forum? :laughing: