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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Marketplace => Topic started by: orb85750 on April 01, 2011, 10:28:07 PM
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This seller on eBay offers a variety of Amiga and C64 stuff. Take a close look at the rare C64 disks that he sells. He seems to have an endless supply of some rare titles. No original disk sleeves?? You be the judge: Genuine or Fake?
http://shop.ebay.com/basicwayne/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562
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I don't think they're fake nor do I think they're that rare. I mean, Little Computer People and M.U.L.E. are well-known games, and the C64 was pretty successful.
Unless you meant the fake part is calling it rare...
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I don't think they're fake nor do I think they're that rare. I mean, Little Computer People and M.U.L.E. are well-known games, and the C64 was pretty successful.
Unless you meant the fake part is calling it rare...
Not super-rare, I agree. Where would one get dozens of these disks without their original sleeves, instructions, etc? (He's sold a ton of them over the last year or so.)
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I voted genuine at first, because I figured why would someone go out of their way to supply licensed JiffyDOS chips and then chinse out on the floppies? But then looking at the label on Wizard of Wor... looks like that could have easily been printed out on one of those Avery address labels. Seems to have that matte finish. Selling multiple copies of the same stuff is kinda strange, but who knows. This guy may just be a hoarder like 90% of us. Keep in mind too, MOST people back in the day did not keep their boxes. Lucky to find original manuals anymore either. Seems they too often get separated from their disks. Life happens and then some dudes girlfriend or mother comes across 'em and they end up getting tossed.
BTW: M.U.L.E. looks authentic as its label has that actiplaque shit going on. You know... where it looks like a greasy fat fingered clumsy thumbed bastard handled it way too many times. :laughing:
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The CSG and MOS Chips appear Authentic. I don't know about the JiffyDOS ROMs. Any Disk CBM released directly never had Manufacturer Labels (At least in Canada) the 1581 Utility/Demo disk appears to be a fake.
The C64 Diag. Cartridge is useless without the wiring harness, all loop-back tests will fail.
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Probably a mixture of both, some genuine some fake you get the same stuff on the UK eBay all the time especially "home made" cartridges... :)
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I voted genuine at first, because I figured why would someone go out of their way to supply licensed JiffyDOS chips and then chinse out on the floppies? But then looking at the label on Wizard of Wor... looks like that could have easily been printed out on one of those Avery address labels. Seems to have that matte finish. Selling multiple copies of the same stuff is kinda strange, but who knows. This guy may just be a hoarder like 90% of us. Keep in mind too, MOST people back in the day did not keep their boxes. Lucky to find original manuals anymore either. Seems they too often get separated from their disks. Life happens and then some dudes girlfriend or mother comes across 'em and they end up getting tossed.
BTW: M.U.L.E. looks authentic as its label has that actiplaque shit going on. You know... where it looks like a greasy fat fingered clumsy thumbed bastard handled it way too many times. :laughing:
Actiplaque -- I think I know what you mean! But wouldn't a scanned/reprinted copy of such a soiled label look the same? What I don't really understand is all the white sleeves (all these Commodore disks came with Commodore-branded sleeves), but maybe he put those there on purpose so that he could continue to use the same auction image over and over without the buyer expecting always to get the original sleeve with the disk. Suppose that would make good sense for a seller on eBay.
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Wow, I took a closer look at the Wizard of Wor disk. I'll bet my life that it's a fake.
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Probably a mixture of both, some genuine some fake you get the same stuff on the UK eBay all the time especially "home made" cartridges... :)
Bingo! If they can fake SID chips, disks are a cinch and cartridges only slightly harder. At least those last two probably work.
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Bingo! If they can fake SID chips, disks are a cinch and cartridges only slightly harder. At least those last two probably work.
You can buy all the stuff you need to easily make C64 cartridges from ebay, it's usually the guys selling the fake cartridges who'll sell the stuff to make your own cartridges... :)
PS: I should know, I bought the bits'n'bobs to give it a try and it work perfectly... ;)
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You can buy all the stuff you need to easily make C64 cartridges from ebay, it's usually the guys selling the fake cartridges who'll sell the stuff to make your own cartridges... :)
PS: I should know, I bought the bits'n'bobs to give it a try and it work perfectly... ;)
Agree. I wanted the C64 Ms Pacman Rom. Originals sell for $100s. A copy of the original Cart $20. Playing the game(that's what it all about).. Priceless.!
The exitation of the primate orbitofrontal cortex and amygdala producing tangent epiphytic recollections,,(sigh) doubly so.
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Agree. I wanted the C64 Ms Pacman Rom. Originals sell for $100s. A copy of the original Cart $20. Playing the game(that's what it all about).. Priceless.!
The exitation of the primate orbitofrontal cortex and amygdala producing tangent epiphytic recollections,,(sigh) doubly so.
You can get cream off the doctor for that you know, it ain't fatal (well unless it kills you and that can be bad sometimes)... :)
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You can get cream off the doctor for that you know, it ain't fatal (well unless it kills you and that can be bad sometimes)... :)
AKA Associated Memories.... I have the cream already but I use it for something else...
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The 1581 Demo/ Utility 3.5" disk is a forgery. The original CBM floppy casing is dark blue. The label in the photo is very poorly reproduced and the floppy cover has a Memorex logo.
Maverick V5 copy utility 3 disk set is also a copy as the original 5.25 discs did not have a notch and, if I remember correctly, white plastic.
The Little Computer People appears to be authentic. Poor photograph. Hard to tell.
If I could get to my C=64 stuff and would be able to verify.
Based on other items poorly reproduced lables, I'd say this guy is.... ARRGH! A PIRATE!
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The 1581 Demo/ Utility 3.5" disk is a forgery. The original CBM floppy casing is dark blue. The label in the photo is very poorly reproduced and the floppy cover has a Memorex logo.
Maverick V5 copy utility 3 disk set is also a copy as the original 5.25 discs did not have a notch and, if I remember correctly, white plastic.
The Little Computer People appears to be authentic. Poor photograph. Hard to tell.
If I could get to my C=64 stuff and would be able to verify.
Based on other items poorly reproduced lables, I'd say this guy is.... ARRGH! A PIRATE!
Put some cream on it, it works for Gertsy... :D
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You can get cream off the doctor for that you know, it ain't fatal (well unless it kills you and that can be bad sometimes)... :)
I know you can get milk from anything with nipples, but "get cream off the doctor"?
I ain't drinking that.
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I know you can get milk from anything with nipples, but "get cream off the doctor"?
I ain't drinking that.
You don't drink it silly, you rub it on... :)
Erm... on second thought's best just to let the disease take it's natural course... :eek:
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Probably can't be certain until you buy and receive the item. There's been many stories over the years with complaints about items delivered from ebay that didn't always match what the auction advertised.
And if that that raggedy single floppy of MULE is considered VERY rare, then that must make my copy inconceivably rare. ;)
Plaz
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Put some cream on it, it works for Gertsy... :D
Arrh me hearties. Blaggard cream, 'dats what we be need'n..!
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@Plaz
I've seen used (but complete with packaging) M.U.L.E sell for over $50 on eBay. Your guess is as good as mine for the value of a sealed one. Very nice!
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I remember buying a load of gx4000 roms only to find they were really bad obvious fakes. Still worked though.
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LCP disk looks legit to me.
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This seller on eBay offers a variety of Amiga and C64 stuff. Take a close look at the rare C64 disks that he sells. He seems to have an endless supply of some rare titles. No original disk sleeves?? You be the judge: Genuine or Fake?
http://shop.ebay.com/basicwayne/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562
Anything declared "rare" on ebay I don't believe 99% of the time. The amount of "rare Amiga 1200s" I see on there is ridiculous.
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BTW: M.U.L.E. looks authentic as its label has that actiplaque shit going on. You know... where it looks like a greasy fat fingered clumsy thumbed bastard handled it way too many times. :laughing:
Spoken like a true r.g.v.c. reader!
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If you think they're fake, don't buy them! That's easy, isn't it?
I've bought from this seller more than a couple of times, and everything has been above board.
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If you voted "genuine," it's time to note that he is still going strong with dozens of the same disks with the questionable labels and white sleeves. Give it another full month to see how many more such disks he has?
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@Plaz - A sealed copy of mule came up once in the last 5 years, if I recall it sold for $300-350 dollars.
Did anybody message Wayne on ebay? He will likely tell you if you ask. Generally most of the stuff he sells is legit/original. He now has a license to legally produce jiffydos roms from Jim Brain.
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@Plaz - A sealed copy of mule came up once in the last 5 years, if I recall it sold for $300-350 dollars.
Did anybody message Wayne on ebay? He will likely tell you if you ask. Generally most of the stuff he sells is legit/original. He now has a license to legally produce jiffydos roms from Jim Brain.
Not true actually. Sealed copies of MULE have popped up from time to time in the past two years on Ebay and go for between $150 and $200. There have been one or two in the $300 or so range, but generally that's when a bidding war breaks out between two collectors that have to have it right now. The Atari 800 version is even more in demand as it is the one Dan Bunten considered to be the most similar to his original concept and it allows for four joysticks to be used at once.
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C'mon, check out this one of his:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Commodore-64-128-Karateka-game-disk-w-instructions-/290579678392?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43a7e604b8
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You can buy all the stuff you need to easily make C64 cartridges from ebay, it's usually the guys selling the fake cartridges who'll sell the stuff to make your own cartridges... :)
PS: I should know, I bought the bits'n'bobs to give it a try and it work perfectly... ;)
Hi,
You are correct sir, but then who is it to say that it is illegal, the machine is dead, the company who made it is dead, and the software companies who have developed for this machine have forgotten about it, plus their is a statue of limitations on software where after so many years it goes to the public domain.
so ends the tail of illegal software. (I think, therefore I am, an idiot of course)
smerf
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C'mon, check out this one of his:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Commodore-64-128-Karateka-game-disk-w-instructions-/290579678392?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43a7e604b8
Hi,
So what -- it was a lousy game any way.
smerf
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From the auction:
Appears to be original but, I make no claim to that effect. Sold as-is. No return.
I think if you put this into Google translate you'd probably get:
"This is obviously a copy, if you can't see that up front then don't come crying to me!"
I've not seen all that many C64 disks but even I know that they mostly look like fakes....
Caveat Emptor!
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If you voted "genuine," it's time to note that he is still going strong with dozens of the same disks with the questionable labels and white sleeves. Give it another full month to see how many more such disks he has?
What difference does it make? If you think they're copies, don't buy them!
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What difference does it make? If you think they're copies, don't buy them!
Is that what you say about all counterfeiters and bootleggers?
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And he's still selling all the same software every week. It has been years now. He has also sold dozens of this bootleg cartridge. Apparently this counterfeiting business is a good one:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/300660406628?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
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This seller on eBay offers a variety of Amiga and C64 stuff. Take a close look at the rare C64 disks that he sells. He seems to have an endless supply of some rare titles. No original disk sleeves?? You be the judge: Genuine or Fake?
http://shop.ebay.com/basicwayne/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562
The diagnostic cartridge looks a bit generic to me but then again I have never owned one so this is perhaps how they really were. I should buy one. I also need to realign a few 1541's I have :).
Rich
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Is that what you say about all counterfeiters and bootleggers?
Not ALL, but I have to say that some of the best Rye whiskey I ever tasted was "bootlegged".
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The HESMON cart is a counterfeit. I know, because I own a real one with a real label and a real manual. It appears that he simply uses a color printer and Avery-type labels. How anyone would be duped into believing that this stuff is genuine? (see poll)
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This really bothers you, doesn't it. You know there are some issues that are actually worth getting worked up about?
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This really bothers you, doesn't it. You know there are some issues that are actually worth getting worked up about?
You're 2nd behind me on the number of posts in this thread. At least I wasn't duped.