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Title: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: Oli_hd on January 15, 2008, 11:41:21 AM
A little interesting thing has just come up on ebay.
Dick Van Dyke's A4000T (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180206663747)
He will even autograph it if you want.
Cant say you see that on ebay very often. :)
Its currently $50 with a Xsurf, toaster/flyer and is powered by a 68040.

Just a little heads up, Im not the guy selling it. ;-)
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: Krusher on January 15, 2008, 11:46:52 AM
Not suitable for at work though, she's nekkid  :lol:
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: countzero on January 15, 2008, 11:47:11 AM
AAAARGH ...
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: ZeBeeDee on January 15, 2008, 11:56:30 AM
Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious!

All together now !!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3zAbQ0aMK8) :-D
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: monami on January 15, 2008, 12:11:08 PM
where's the rst of it? surely dick couldn't have misplaced it?
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: ZeBeeDee on January 15, 2008, 12:53:53 PM
Maybe Chitty Chitty Bang Bang needed a quick patch and the A4000 case was the only piece of metal to hand
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: redrumloa on January 15, 2008, 12:59:44 PM
Worth a bid, though I know I will get outbid.
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: Retro_71 on January 15, 2008, 01:17:29 PM
Agreed.. Now i have to convince wife i need another Amiga  :-D
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: A1260 on January 15, 2008, 01:20:44 PM
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Q: Mr. Van Dyke can you talk about your interest in computer animation?

    Dick: It started out as a hobby about 15 years ago when Amiga first came out with a little machine that would actually do animation and I’ve been doing it ever since. Now I have a room full of equipment and I’m struggling to keep up with technology, but it’s an addiction. It is so much fun. I’ve gotten pretty good. I’ve been actually offered a job as an animator and I realize the minute there’s a deadline, the fun’s over. So I can play as long as I want to with it and I have some good stuff in there, but I’ve never sold any or even showed any of it.


www.moviesonline.ca (http://www.moviesonline.ca/movienews_10796.html)

 :-)
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: B00tDisk on January 15, 2008, 02:50:28 PM
Sad.  So much for another "famous amiga user"...! :-(
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: Caius on January 15, 2008, 02:56:51 PM
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eBay wrote:

He is also willing to autograph this machine, on request.


Vandalism!
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: Nlandas on January 15, 2008, 03:22:42 PM
Is this real and for-true? Wow, that's a pretty cool new piece of Amiga trivia. I'm really amazed that the side of the case is missing though.

-Nyle
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: theformula on January 15, 2008, 04:03:41 PM
(http://imagestack.seifersspace.com/images/11/amiga-ceo.jpg)
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: tokyoracer on January 15, 2008, 04:05:30 PM
From www.moviesonline.ca ...

Q: Mr. Van Dyke can you talk about your interest in computer animation?

    Dick: It started out as a hobby about 15 years ago when Amiga first came out with a little machine that would actually do animation and I’ve been doing it ever since. Now I have a room full of equipment and I’m struggling to keep up with technology, but it’s an addiction. It is so much fun. I’ve gotten pretty good. I’ve been actually offered a job as an animator and I realize the minute there’s a deadline, the fun’s over. So I can play as long as I want to with it and I have some good stuff in there, but I’ve never sold any or even showed any of it.

Q: Would you sell it?

    Dick: Would I sell it? No, I wouldn’t. I don’t think I’d sell it. I’m not that good. You look at this movie and you have a long way to go.
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: Ral-Clan on January 15, 2008, 04:22:48 PM
Dick van Dyke was a huge proponent of the Amiga.  I read somewhere that he even created an effect in Lightwave of a motorcycle explosion for a TV show he was acting in (when the in house effects company couldn't do it due to budgetary contraints).

http://jimhillmedia.com/blogs/jim_hill/archive/2004/08/12/443.aspx
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: LoadWB on January 15, 2008, 04:59:56 PM
I'm bidding just so I can say I did :-)

[EDIT] And I'm outbid  :-D [/EDIT]
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: McVenco on January 15, 2008, 05:11:05 PM
Would there be any way to tell if it's a Commodore or an Amiga Tech A4000T without the side and front, or are they exactly the same?

If it were a true Commodore A4000T it would be a shame that the original front is not there...
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: hardlink on January 15, 2008, 05:18:21 PM
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redrumloa wrote:
Worth a bid, though I know I will get outbid.


I know, I got first bid, and was the highest bidder for quite a while at $50
 :lol:
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: Oli_hd on January 15, 2008, 05:23:07 PM
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Would there be any way to tell if it's a Commodore or an Amiga Tech A4000T without the side and front, or are they exactly the same?

Well my A4000T (Amiga Tech) has a sticker on the back above the PSU saying what it is, I would guess the Commodore one would have the same and would clearly show which one it was.
Someone should ask about the missing bits of case though, I cant think he runs it like that.
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: amigadave on January 15, 2008, 05:33:29 PM
It is a bit confusing if it is running a 68040, or a 68060, as further down the description it states it has the 060.

If I had the money to spend on it, I would want to pick it up in person and have my picture taken with Dick and the A4000T and then get it autographed too.

I have known about his interest and use of Amigas for a long time, but this is interesting bit of Amiga history that is being auctioned off.

I loved watching the Dick Van Dyke show when I was a kid growing up and also his work in movies.  I would have loved to be in an Amiga/Video Toaster/Flyer user group perhaps 10 to 15 years ago and see Dick walk in to participate.  What a blast that would have been.

I was lucky enough to be part of a Riverside user group that had Jim Sachs show up as a guest and show some of his work as well as demonstrate a brand new Amiga paint program that was just beginning to be released, it was Brilliance and the famous box cover art of the Amiga Lagoon that Jim created was only partially finished at that time IIRC.  Ahh, the good old days!

Some lucky collector is going to get a great piece of Amiga history when they win that auction.
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: hardlink on January 15, 2008, 05:46:13 PM
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amigadave wrote:
Some lucky collector is going to get a great piece of Amiga history when they win that auction.


I think somebody is just going to get ripped off and it will collect dust as it will be too valuable to actually use. And that seems to be against Dick's stated wishes. You would think  he would have had a charity auction to pick who to donate it to that will really use it.

Dick Van Dyke does not need the money this fleabag auction will bring.  
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: Oli_hd on January 15, 2008, 05:47:18 PM
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It is a bit confusing if it is running a 68040, or a 68060, as further down the description it states it has the 060.

Yeah it seems they wrote a description and then cut and pasted hardware descriptions for each card from a website (amiga.resource or the AHB probably)
I read it as having a 68040.
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: Plaz on January 15, 2008, 05:52:56 PM
Sigh, if I had the cash I'd be all over that. Not only is the 4000T a keeper, I've always been a big Van Dyke fan ever since I was old enough to go see Chitty Bang Bang ... when it was released. (Dating myself a bit) Maybe I can at least write for an Autograph.

Plaz
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: da9000 on January 15, 2008, 06:36:50 PM
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ral-clan wrote:
Dick van Dyke was a huge proponent of the Amiga.  I read somewhere that he even created an effect in Lightwave of a motorcycle explosion for a TV show he was acting in (when the in house effects company couldn't do it due to budgetary contraints).


Hardcore! Well, his Amiga-dealings-with have been added to his Wikipedia page :-)
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: whiteb on January 15, 2008, 06:59:14 PM
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ral-clan wrote:
Dick van Dyke was a huge proponent of the Amiga.  I read somewhere that he even created an effect in Lightwave of a motorcycle explosion for a TV show he was acting in (when the in house effects company couldn't do it due to budgetary contraints).

http://jimhillmedia.com/blogs/jim_hill/archive/2004/08/12/443.aspx


Yeah, it was in one of the later episodes of Diagnosis Murder from memory.
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: ami_junki on January 16, 2008, 06:27:28 AM
It is a shame he has to sell it but it is great to know that he was a fan of the good old miggy, quite amazing what he did though to help out the show.  I tried  to bid too but got bid out too quickly lol
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: LoadWB on January 16, 2008, 06:33:03 AM
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Plaz wrote:
Maybe I can at least write for an Autograph.

Plaz


Maybe we can convince him to provide all bidders with an autograph  :-D
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: weirdami on January 16, 2008, 07:39:17 AM
@tokyoracer

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Dick: Would I sell it? No, I wouldn’t. I don’t think I’d sell it. I’m not that good. You look at this movie and you have a long way to go.


"It" refers to the animations he had made.
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: weirdami on January 16, 2008, 07:43:40 AM
I hope it's for real and not someone being a jerk liar, but I also hope it's not for real and that good ol' DVD (initials ahead of their time) is still using his Amiga.

Does anyone have a copy of that video message he made that they showed at that Amiga convention in 1998 or 1999? The one that happened in that olde styled motel that got demolished soon after. Gateway is a word my brain is associating with that building.
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: hardlink on January 16, 2008, 02:46:58 PM
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weirdami wrote:
Does anyone have a copy of that video message he made that they showed at that Amiga convention in 1998 or 1999? The one that happened in that olde styled motel that got demolished soon after. Gateway is a word my brain is associating with that building.


Gateway was the Amiga owner at that time, but as far as the building, my brain will always associate room bathtubs full of beer and roaming the halls singing, "Henry the Eighth I am I am I am ....  :pint:  :evilgrin:
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: Ral-Clan on January 16, 2008, 03:43:18 PM
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da9000 wrote:
Quote

ral-clan wrote:
Dick van Dyke was a huge proponent of the Amiga.  I read somewhere that he even created an effect in Lightwave of a motorcycle explosion for a TV show he was acting in (when the in house effects company couldn't do it due to budgetary contraints).


Hardcore! Well, his Amiga-dealings-with have been added to his Wikipedia page :-)


If this is what you added to Wikipedia (quote from Wiki site http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_van_dyke):

[color=0000ff]One of Van Dyke's modern passions is producing 3D computer graphics. He created many of the 3D rendered effects shown in Diagnosis: Murder, and continues to work with LightWave 3D.[/color]

...then I have to disagree with the second sentence.  He created ONE small effect for one episode as far as we know.  I've edited it.
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: Raffaele on January 16, 2008, 04:36:06 PM
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Oli_hd wrote:
A little interesting thing has just come up on ebay.

Dick Van Dyke's A4000T[/url]
He will even autograph it if you want.


What a pity another great Amigan left this scene...

From this thread I saw it seems that Dick Van Dyke have no more fun from his Amiga...

We will miss his presence in our community.

I hope that new machines incoming could double the fun and let him take a look at our scene again, or perhaps if he will continue using Amiga thru WinUAE...  :roll:
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: Trev on January 16, 2008, 06:21:28 PM
If this auction is real, I'm of the opinion the box should have gone to a computer history museum, a television history museum, or the Smithsonian (sorry, Dick).
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: monami on January 16, 2008, 06:33:24 PM
makes me wonder why he didn't add some dosh to community projects? surely he would have had some return...
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: weirdami on January 16, 2008, 07:09:50 PM
@hardlink

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Gateway was the Amiga owner at that time


I meant that the hotel or location was related to the word Gateway. I'm pretty sure it's the same place where the Gateway scifi convention used to be held. The Henry bit probably is accurate, perhaps I should have said that instead (had I thought of it). The building was sorta Henry IIX ish era looking.

Extra info, Bill (or whoever) gave out a TacoBell mascot dog stuffed animal to one person at each table at the banquet.
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: Plaz on January 16, 2008, 07:19:00 PM
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Maybe we can convince him to provide all bidders with an autograph  :-D


I've found the info on how to write and get one. You may be waiting a couple of months, but apparently he's willing to send one. PM if anyone wants the link.

Plaz
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: Plaz on January 16, 2008, 07:22:52 PM
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makes me wonder why he didn't add some dosh to community projects? surely he would have had some return...


I've always had the "conspiracy theory" that he may have been a silent supporter of DiscreetFX. Don't start spreading that as even a rumor please. It's just an figment of my active imagination.

Plaz
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: da9000 on January 17, 2008, 01:38:44 AM
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ral-clan wrote:
If this is what you added


No, I didn't add that. Only Amiga-specific stuff, not animation-specific.
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: Invisix on January 17, 2008, 08:22:05 AM
Eh, for some reason I don't think this was ever owned by Dick Van Dyke, usually famous peoples belongings end up in museums. I think the seller is trying to dupe ppl, and make oddles of cash on it by saying it belonged to a famous actor. I mean look at the running auction price already.

Just because a person can claim something belonged to a famous person, doesn't make it true!
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: weirdami on January 17, 2008, 08:38:57 AM
@Wayne

As AO bossman, do you know anyone who knows anyone who can get in contact with Master DVD to check the authenticity of this auction?
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: AmiJake on January 17, 2008, 10:38:58 AM

This could be a fake!

Someone like DVD really has no reason to sell his beloved Amiga epecially since he had a blast  :lol:  wit it. I mean money is not an issue for him, he can probably sell his shirt and get more money for it!!, hell the real DVD might build a room, encase his amiga in glass forever!

I guess there is no "case" for the tower because it already has a signed autographs from DVD (got DVD to autograph it somehow) on the case so if someone requested it Vola! the case shows up with DVD's autograph.

Just my conspiracy theory
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: AmigaBlitter on January 17, 2008, 10:57:05 AM
I saw that Petro is selling his amiga too. Can't remember the link.
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: persia on January 17, 2008, 05:19:46 PM
Ok, I'm about to list Mary Tyler Moore's nose ring, any takers?
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: amigadave on January 17, 2008, 05:38:35 PM
All you conspiracy theorist are hilarious!

Ever think that Dick might just be getting a bit too old to enjoy using this Amiga anymore and as the eBay ad states, Dick just wants someone else to enjoy his Amiga as much as he has instead of it sitting unused in a closet, like so many other Amigas that others stop using.

As for the statement that it should be in a museum, :lol: maybe you think his telephone, or his toilet paper holder should be encased in glass too.  If he had created something fantastic with his Amiga, like the special effect for the movie "Titanic" and released it to the general public, then maybe I could see the justification of preserving it in a movie museum, but he didn't.
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: weirdami on January 17, 2008, 07:54:06 PM
I asked three questions to the seller but he didn't post them on the auction.

--

1. What proof is there that this is DVD's computer?

"What proof would you consider sufficient?"


2. What happened to the case?

"The case covers have been left off for the purpose of cooling.  Over the years, they've been misplaced."

3. Is DVD selling this himself? Money going to charity?

"No, Mr. Van Dyke is not selling this unit, himself so the proceeds are not going to charity.  Mr. Van Dyke does a great deal of work for charities, as it is.  He considers his charitble work personal, so he rarely talks about it."


--

So...


I think that at least the information in the first two questions should have been put on the auction in the first place. Since there's no proof, and the auction's details aren't so great, and the sellers apparent inability to add at least the question I asked about the case to his auction, then if you want it you shouldn't bid because of a possible DVD connection. Just bid because the hardware is worth that much on its own. :-/
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: Krusher on January 17, 2008, 08:18:10 PM
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amigadave wrote:
...

As for the statement that it should be in a museum, :lol:...


No Amiga should be in a museum, except the Lorraine boards and perhaps the first ever Amiga 1000 and prototypes. The rest just should be on the market.
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: gdanko on January 17, 2008, 09:14:43 PM
A new tagline

-Amiga "If it's good enough for Dick Van Dyke, it's good enough for me."
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: weirdami on January 18, 2008, 08:33:01 PM
I told him that any proof would do. You know, any at all is what I meant. His reply:

Quote
ANY proof?  Hmmmm ... OK .. for starters, I have
a perfect ebay rating and I don't want to ruing it?

Or, how about a
digital photo of myself with Dick ... though, I would find that
exceptionally suspect, since I'm such an unknown?

How about a digital
photo when Dick personally autographs the computer?

When you suggest
ANY, you leave it all up to me and I don't need to be convinced :-)

With
this in mind, what would YOU, personally, like to see as "sufficient
evidence?"

I did get a similar request from someone else and after I
responded in a similar manner, they checked the internet and found
 that
Dick was an avid Amiga user and even used the Amiga to create some
animation for one of the "Diagnosis Murder" shows.

Let me know what
works for you?


Jerk.
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: hardlink on January 18, 2008, 08:43:28 PM
Quote

weirdami wrote:
I told him that any proof


More and more and more suspicious, for sure. :inquisitive:

If he wanted it to be used, why didn't he allow Pyromania to donate it to someone that will continue developing Toaster/Flyer software? I have actually been on DVD's old yacht, he most certainly does not need the $700 from fleabay.
And there appears to be no direct way/email to contact DVD before the auction end.
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: Nlandas on January 18, 2008, 08:45:38 PM
Quote

Oli_hd wrote:
Quote
Would there be any way to tell if it's a Commodore or an Amiga Tech A4000T without the side and front, or are they exactly the same?

Well my A4000T (Amiga Tech) has a sticker on the back above the PSU saying what it is, I would guess the Commodore one would have the same and would clearly show which one it was.
Someone should ask about the missing bits of case though, I cant think he runs it like that.


I asked about the side of the case. The unit was not running stably and his support staff think it was the heat. So to test the theory they took off the side cover. Sure enough it ran stably so he left it off. It got put somewhere and forgotten/lost.

I didn't ask about the front though.
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: Nlandas on January 18, 2008, 09:13:15 PM
Anyone have time to call Mr. Van Dyke's advertising agency?

Fan Mail Address:

Dick Van Dyke
23215 Mariposa DeOro
Malibu, CA 90265
USA

Not an updated address? Please let us know!    
   
Secondary Address:

Dick Van Dyke
William Morris Agency
One William Morris Place
Beverly Hills, CA 90212
USA

Address Information:

William Morris Agency
(Talent and Literary Agency)
One William Morris Place
Beverly Hills, CA 90212
USA
Phone: (310) 859-4000
Fax: (310) 859-4205
Official Website

Let us know what you find out.
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: agwoodward on January 18, 2008, 09:40:54 PM
I actually know (but am not affiliated with) the seller through personal experience.  I think you guys are being more than a little unfair in persecuting him as a fraud.

Perhaps, it is possible that DVD owned this machine, and that the case is missing - the case hasn't been on my 4000t since I got it as I am constantly hooking up different drives and plugging/unplugging cards.

It is most likely (if you know about the toaster flyer) that the case was left off to allow the connection of the scsi array given that the case does not appear to have any external connections for such.  Without an array of sorts, the flyer can't work - maybe that is why the case is off?

You should not be so quick to condemn without reason.
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: dannyp1 on January 18, 2008, 11:06:19 PM
I also have got an a4000T and the front & case have been off of mine almost since the day I got it(about 7 years ago).  I also got tired in a hurry of putting it on and taking it off.  I thought nothing of the fact that it was missing on this computer until reading this thread.  
I also think it's funny how everybody assumes DVD is made out of money.  There are many many former stars who are not really wealthy and just manage to get by.  Dick might be able to use a couple of extra bucks.  Who knows.
I also never doubted for a moment that this at one time had been Dick's Amiga.  You don't think that there was a real good chance that someone who knows him might see this listing and tell him about it.  I'm sure he has been asked about it several times already.  This isn't being sold secretly in a back alley.  It is right in the store front window.  Not a place where frauds are normally sold.  
And if this guy is a good enough forgerer to do Dick Van Dyke, maybe I can get him to forge my Ex-Wifes signature on a couple of things for me (and write that he was going to do it in a public forum).
I do have to admit that we have some active immaginations here on the .org.    :lol:
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: monami on January 18, 2008, 11:11:37 PM
those cases covers are there to sheild your head from radiation... :crazy:
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: redrumloa on January 19, 2008, 12:33:19 AM
Fake?? (Edit It may not be a fake, unknown at this time)

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MC024 eBay Listing Removed ( 174885434)   
   
Dear redrumloa,

Thank you for your bid on the following auction-style listing:

180206663747 - Dick Van Dyke?s personal RARE Amiga 4000T Toaster Sys

Unfortunately, eBay has removed this . All bids or offers on this listing have been canceled. Because the listing was ended, you no longer have any obligation to purchase this item. If the seller chooses to relist the item, you're welcome to bid on it again.

Listings are removed for different reasons. For example:
- The way the item was listed may violate eBay policy.
- The removal may be part of a separate action taken by eBay that is unrelated to the listing itself.

We hope you understand that, due to privacy concerns, we're unable to discuss the details of why this listing was ended. However, please note that the removal of this listing should not suggest that this seller's standing in the eBay Community has been called into question.

For more information on why eBay may remove a listing, please go to:

http://pages.ebay.com/help/tp/listing-ended.html

For information on how you can protect yourself and help ensure a positive buying experience in the future, visit:

http://pages.ebay.com/help/buy/buyer_checklist.html

We're sorry for the inconvenience and thank you for your understanding.

Sincerely,

eBay Trust & Safety


(edit- Seller states he is fixing this with eBay)
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: Krusher on January 19, 2008, 12:47:21 AM
Good, now to kill those insane prices people bid for stuff..

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Title: fun with typos
Post by: weirdami on January 19, 2008, 01:13:51 AM
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redrumloa wrote:


(edit- Seller states he is fixing this with eBay)


I have pizza rolls  :kitty:
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: Plaz on January 19, 2008, 01:51:23 AM
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Fake?? (Edit It may not be a fake, unknown at this time)


Did anyone notice how high the bid got before it was pulled?

Plaz
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: Cheeeky on January 19, 2008, 02:08:54 AM
Apparently it's been removed by ebay - magic like that can't be bought or sold! Just imagine touching it... My humble 060 1200 has out lived 4 IBM clones of mine that died, and she knows it - she's never gonna give up!
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: anivichano on January 19, 2008, 06:30:03 AM
Greetings Oli_hd,

Sorry about the confusion ... its an 060 :-)

Hope that helps?

Alex
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: anivichano on January 19, 2008, 06:34:50 AM
Greetigs weirdami,

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weirdami wrote:
I hope it's for real and not someone being a jerk liar, but I also hope it's not for real and that good ol' DVD (initials ahead of their time) is still using his Amiga.

Does anyone have a copy of that video message he made that they showed at that Amiga convention in 1998 or 1999? The one that happened in that olde styled motel that got demolished soon after. Gateway is a word my brain is associating with that building.


Yes, the sale is for real.  I helped Dick make that video message.  Unfortunately, I don't have it ... it was on his machine and I can't find it  :-(

Alex
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: anivichano on January 19, 2008, 06:42:15 AM
Greetings Invisix,

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Invisix wrote:
Eh, for some reason I don't think this was ever owned by Dick Van Dyke, usually famous peoples belongings end up in museums. I think the seller is trying to dupe ppl, and make oddles of cash on it by saying it belonged to a famous actor. I mean look at the running auction price already.

Just because a person can claim something belonged to a famous person, doesn't make it true!


You are quite correct.  How would you go about finding the truth?

I'd met Dick while I was employed by Anti-Gravity and have been his personal computer technician, every since.  I've been to conventions with Dick, introduced him to Bill McEwen and helped him do the video segments for the Amiga conventions ... so what would it take to convince you?

Cheers :-)

Alex
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: anivichano on January 19, 2008, 06:47:52 AM
Greetings AmiJake,

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AmiJake wrote:

This could be a fake!
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Quite true ... how would you tell?

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Someone like DVD really has no reason to sell his beloved Amiga epecially since he had a blast  :lol:  wit it. I mean money is not an issue for him, he can probably sell his shirt and get more money for it!!
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True again ... unless he gave it to his favorite techy as a gift, who chose to sell it, with Dick's blessing??

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, hell the real DVD might build a room, encase his amiga in glass forever!
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He's got too much stuff to put in glass cases, as it is ... start with 5 Emmy's and go from there ...

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I guess there is no "case" for the tower because it already has a signed autographs from DVD (got DVD to autograph it somehow) on the case so if someone requested it Vola! the case shows up with DVD's autograph.

Just my conspiracy theory


Guess again!!!  :-)

The trouble with conspiracy theorists is that they would rather put out juicy conspiracy than actually spend a little time to check out the truth!??

Must be a fun occupation :-)

Alex
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: anivichano on January 19, 2008, 06:55:07 AM
Greetings weirdami,

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weirdami wrote:
I asked three questions to the seller but he didn't post them on the auction.

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1. What proof is there that this is DVD's computer?

"What proof would you consider sufficient?"


2. What happened to the case?

"The case covers have been left off for the purpose of cooling.  Over the years, they've been misplaced."

3. Is DVD selling this himself? Money going to charity?

"No, Mr. Van Dyke is not selling this unit, himself so the proceeds are not going to charity.  Mr. Van Dyke does a great deal of work for charities, as it is.  He considers his charitble work personal, so he rarely talks about it."


--

So...


I think that at least the information in the first two questions should have been put on the auction in the first place. Since there's no proof, and the auction's details aren't so great, and the sellers apparent inability to add at least the question I asked about the case to his auction, then if you want it you shouldn't bid because of a possible DVD connection. Just bid because the hardware is worth that much on its own. :-/


I'm very surprised that you did not post the rest of the correspondance between us?

I asked you what, in your opinion would constitute proof?  I've asked it twice and I still get the same comment:

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Just give proof. Any proof at all is better than the zero proof you have given so far.


And I'm still asking for clarification of what "Any Proof" is?

Give me an example and I'll be happy to provide something along those lines.

Would you prefer if Bill McEwen vouched for me?  How about Dan Lutz or Bill Panagouleous, just to name a few?

Alex

PS .. my apologies .. I see that you have posted the rest of our emails ... good for you!

NOW, what would you prefer to see as proof?

Please answer the question and I will respond in kind.
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: anivichano on January 19, 2008, 07:33:13 AM
Greetings Nlandas,

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Nlandas wrote:
Anyone have time to call Mr. Van Dyke's advertising agency?


Since its not going through his agency, they won't know.  They'll have to contact Dick, personally, since he gave me the machine to do as I wanted.  We two were the only ones involved in this transaction ... no official publicity.

So, if there's some other form of verification you would like to request, please let me know and I'll do what I can to oblidge.

At the moment all you have is my word.  There are a few in the Amiga community who know me and that I've worked with Dick for years.  Any one of you who's been to an NAB show or a Siggraph show and seen Dick speak on behalf of Newtek would have seen me there as well ... I'm just not as recognizable as Dick :-)

Alex
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: Methuselas on January 19, 2008, 08:01:56 AM
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anivichano wrote:

You are quite correct.  How would you go about finding the truth?

I'd met Dick while I was employed by Anti-Gravity and have been his personal computer technician, every since.



Oooh. You worked for Anti-Gravity??? You mind giving me back the grand or so I sent them for the Boxer I *NEVER* got!  :madashell:
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: anivichano on January 19, 2008, 08:10:05 AM
Greetings Methuselas,

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Methuselas wrote:
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Oooh. You worked for Anti-Gravity??? You mind giving me back the grand or so I sent them for the Boxer I *NEVER* got!  :madashell:


You are correct in stating that I worked FOR them ... I was an employee who had his paycheck bounced and never had a thing to do with the Boxer.  All I did was repair the machines and watch the soap-operas that were happening there :-)

I left after a few months.  Not sure if I was going to get paid from one week to the next :-(

Sorry I can't be of more help.

Alex
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: anivichano on January 19, 2008, 08:20:50 AM
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Nlandas wrote:
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Oli_hd wrote:
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Would there be any way to tell if it's a Commodore or an Amiga Tech A4000T without the side and front, or are they exactly the same?


You could always ask me?

Yes it is an Amiga Tech A4000T and the front panel went the way of the cover ... lost in the vacuum of some storage unit???

I'm really surprised at some of the posters here.  If you have a question about the machine or its authenticity, please ask me.

I've posted that I will answer questions, on the ebay listing and I have responded to all who have asked.  I don't normally frequent this site and would not have known that you people have ligitimate questions.

I request that your questions are ligitimate, do not ask about rumors or speculations and that the questions are to the point and not vague?

I will endevour to answer as best as I can.

Alex
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: monami on January 19, 2008, 09:19:35 AM
hi,

why exactly is this no longer on ebay?
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: anivichano on January 19, 2008, 10:56:22 AM
Greetings monami,

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monami wrote:
hi,

why exactly is this no longer on ebay?


I'm pursuing the issue with ebay, but it appears that someone has reported me as "spamming" where I'm using Mr. Van Dyke's name only to get attention and that the listing is not legitimate.

At least, I assume that someone has reported me to ebay, since a couple of months ago, I had sold Mr. Van Dyke's Ultimatte machine with his autograph on it and had no problems.  

In any case, Mr. Van Dyke has been notified and I'm sure this will clear up soon. :-)

Alex
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: Oli_hd on January 19, 2008, 12:54:08 PM
Hi anivichano, thanks for making an account here to sort it out.

Im sure it was a bit depressing reading the people thinking the A4KT was a fake.
And thanks for clearing up about the 040/060 thing. The only reason I didnt e-mail is because Im not going to bid. (Its cool and all but you are probably looking at $1000+ and I already have an A4000T)

I saw one reply you did to someone saying you could do a photograph of Dick signing the Amiga, I think that would be enough for anyone to prove its really his (assuming the picture wasnt at an Amiga show in the 90's ;-) )
So if you did provide that Im sure it would be enough.
Its just signatures can be faked so easily.

Its dead sad that DVD is selling his miggy though, I guess 50Mhz just aint enough to do 3D stuff at HD resolution. :)

Thanks again for popping by and I hope you get top dollar for it (2000+ maybe)

I hope ebay gets it all sorted.

PS: If you do get a pic of him signing the computer it would be so cool if you could post a copy of it. ;-)

(although it would probably be wise to take a different photo to upload as I bet everyone will sign their A4000T's and flogging them as "owned by DVD")
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: redrumloa on January 19, 2008, 02:20:22 PM
@anivichano

Welcome to Amiga.org, thanks for clearing this up. Let us know if the auction gets re-listed. We are all skeptical, myself included, for a reason. There has been a long history of hoaxes, scams and impersonations in the Amiga community. HERE (http://www.amiga.org/userinfo.php?uid=11822) is a perfect example.On top of that, eBay has a serious problem of counterfeit items selling. So please don't it personally.  :-)
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: Plaz on January 19, 2008, 02:35:36 PM
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Give me an example and I'll be happy to provide something along those lines


Here's two suggestions....

#1
The "coup de grâce" would be a snap shot of Mr. Van Dyke autographing this machine. Of course we know he's a busy guy and may not be able to schedule for such a shoot.
 
#2
Perhaps a less reliable but more convienent idea would be to make a phone call. Could you provide a .avi or .wma audio clip of Mr. Van Dyke confirming your possesion of his 4000? Unless you have a professional voice impersonator, I think his distint voice confirming you and the machine would be enough for me.

The fact you've come over to discuss the situation has alreay boosted your credibility, but any one looking to spend perhaps a couple thousand dollars will probably like more proof.

Plaz
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: anivichano on January 19, 2008, 05:27:48 PM
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Oli_hd wrote:
Hi anivichano, thanks for making an account here to sort it out.


Sure thing.  For some odd reason (perhaps since I really haven't done much with my Amiga and forgot) I didn't think of looking here :-(

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Im sure it was a bit depressing reading the people thinking the A4KT was a fake.


Not at all.  I was surprised that the listing was pulled.  However I'm glad that there is some healthy skepticism and that people have shown enough concern to do something about it.

I've found this entire experience to be quite entertaining.  I can't buy fun like this :-)

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And thanks for clearing up about the 040/060 thing. The only reason I didnt e-mail is because Im not going to bid.
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At the bottom of my listing, I've stated that if there are ANY questions to please ask.  I don't care if you're bidding or not.  I've already had several emails that have nothing to do with this bid.  So feel free to ask.


(Its cool and all but you are probably looking at $1000+ and I already have an A4000T)

I saw one reply you did to someone saying you could do a photograph of Dick signing the Amiga, I think that would be enough for anyone to prove its really his (assuming the picture wasnt at an Amiga show in the 90's ;-) )
So if you did provide that Im sure it would be enough.
Its just signatures can be faked so easily.
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That's easily done.  I have to take the Amiga back to Dick so that he can sign it and I'll snap his pic.

Of course, I expect a good percentage of readers to accuse me of "Photoshoping" (or in Dick's case, Aura'ng) the photo ... heck Dick might do it himself, just to be funny ;-)


Its dead sad that DVD is selling his miggy though, I guess 50Mhz just aint enough to do 3D stuff at HD resolution. :)
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The poor thing was just sitting under his desk, gathering dust. :-(

He pointed out that he clearly recalls times that he's gone to bed in anticipation of 15 frames being rendered, overnight.  Now its more along the lines of 15 seconds or less.


Thanks again for popping by and I hope you get top dollar for it (2000+ maybe)

I hope ebay gets it all sorted.
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Thanks.

Ebay has already contacted me and apologized:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180208438492&ssPageName=ADME:L:LCA:US:1123


PS: If you do get a pic of him signing the computer it would be so cool if you could post a copy of it. ;-)
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I would be happy to do so, as long as I get permissions from both the buyer and Dick.

If you would do me the favor of reminding me at the end of the auction, it would be big help!


(although it would probably be wise to take a different photo to upload as I bet everyone will sign their A4000T's and flogging them as "owned by DVD")


True.  I'm open to suggestions.

Of course, a personallized autograph is anticipated, as long as it follows common rules of decency and politeness. So that might help to keep it authentic?

Many thanks,

Alex
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: anivichano on January 19, 2008, 05:41:14 PM
Greetings redrumloa,

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redrumloa wrote:
@anivichano

Welcome to Amiga.org, thanks for clearing this up.
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Thank you and its my pleasure. :-)


Let us know if the auction gets re-listed. We are all skeptical, myself included, for a reason. There has been a long history of hoaxes, scams and impersonations in the Amiga community. HERE (http://www.amiga.org/userinfo.php?uid=11822) is a perfect example.On top of that, eBay has a serious problem of counterfeit items selling. So please don't it personally.  :-)


It has been relisted:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180208438492&ssPageName=ADME:L:LCA:US:1123

and I can't take it personally!

I'm not a well known name in the larger Amiga community.  I'm certain that there are a lot of Amiga users who still don't know that Dick used Amigas and even more that didn't know I'm his tech ... or even who the heck I am.  Really, I'm noone significant ... didn't invent the Amiga, didn't promote the Amiga, didn't get my picture taken with Jay Miner or Dave Haynie ... didn't even make a prequel movie of "Dances with Wolves" ... i.e. ... "Dances with Penguins" so I expect a good amount of skepticism!

I hope that noone was offended by my responses and I've quite enjoyed this experience :-)

Good luck,

Alex
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: anivichano on January 19, 2008, 05:50:26 PM
Greetings Plaz,

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Plaz wrote:
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Give me an example and I'll be happy to provide something along those lines


Here's two suggestions....

#1
The "coup de grâce" would be a snap shot of Mr. Van Dyke autographing this machine. Of course we know he's a busy guy and may not be able to schedule for such a shoot.


You are correct that he's busy, however he's obliged to make time to sign this machine ... it has not been signed, yet and he's willing to personallize the autograph.

At that time, its no trouble to snap a couple of pics.

However, for those who require proof, prior to the end of the bid, this might not be sufficient.  I will consider other suggestions, so please feel free to make requests.

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#2
Perhaps a less reliable but more convienent idea would be to make a phone call. Could you provide a .avi or .wma audio clip of Mr. Van Dyke confirming your possesion of his 4000? Unless you have a professional voice impersonator, I think his distint voice confirming you and the machine would be enough for me.

The fact you've come over to discuss the situation has alreay boosted your credibility, but any one looking to spend perhaps a couple thousand dollars will probably like more proof.

Plaz


A phone call would be difficult since I'm not set up to record such a thing and impersonation is too real (if I really were that desperate).

It is a possiblity, but me, personally, I wouldn't accept it as proof.

Other suggestions, please?

Good luck,

Alex
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: hardlink on January 19, 2008, 06:11:53 PM
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anivichano wrote:

It has been relisted:



Darn! I was first and highest bidder for a day last time around, but I missed it by 20 seconds this time  :-P
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: monami on January 19, 2008, 06:23:12 PM
yay i got the first bid! a completely unrealistic 100 dollars...

on the downside i can't keep singing chim chiminey. it's been 2 days now and i don't know all the words. arrrg!
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: sdyates on January 19, 2008, 06:47:37 PM
I thought Dick had passed away a few years back... I used to love his courtroom show -- nice guy
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: anivichano on January 19, 2008, 07:00:10 PM
Greetings monami,

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on the downside i can't keep singing chim chiminey. it's been 2 days now and i don't know all the words. arrrg!


Try:

http://www.angelfire.com/movies/disneybroadway/marypoppins.html

Enjoy,

Alex
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: Kin-Hell on January 19, 2008, 07:07:07 PM
Chim Chim Cher-oo!  :-D
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: adonay on January 19, 2008, 08:02:47 PM
It does not mater who owned it i would not buy a computer that ugly "incomplete" . As for autograph hmm why would i want another mans scramble.

Although i recognize him as a great artist
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: Nlandas on January 19, 2008, 10:22:52 PM
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Plaz wrote:
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Fake?? (Edit It may not be a fake, unknown at this time)


Did anyone notice how high the bid got before it was pulled?

Plaz


It was $610 the last I saw for quite a while. I wish people who didn't want it wouldn't bid on it just so that they can go. I bid on DVD's Amiga. All that does is push it up out of people's price who might want it.
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: Nlandas on January 19, 2008, 10:47:20 PM
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anivichano wrote:
Greetings Nlandas,

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Nlandas wrote:
Anyone have time to call Mr. Van Dyke's advertising agency?


Since its not going through his agency, they won't know.  They'll have to contact Dick, personally, since he gave me the machine to do as I wanted.  We two were the only ones involved in this transaction ... no official publicity.

So, if there's some other form of verification you would like to request, please let me know and I'll do what I can to oblidge.

At the moment all you have is my word.  There are a few in the Amiga community who know me and that I've worked with Dick for years.  Any one of you who's been to an NAB show or a Siggraph show and seen Dick speak on behalf of Newtek would have seen me there as well ... I'm just not as recognizable as Dick :-)

Alex


Hey Alex,

I don't need more proof. I've talked with you enough on email to tell that your not trying to pull anything over. It would have been readily apparent after a short while if you were.  :-)

I was just trying to keep the Yahoos busy.  :-D

I figured that his agency wouldn't know immediately and that they would have had to check with Mr. Van Dyke to confirm that someone wasn't pulling a fast one.

-Nyle
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: ami_junki on January 19, 2008, 11:47:33 PM
@anivichano

Hi Anivichano,

Welcome to Amiga.org, I had written to you early on, I am amiga.junkie on ebay, sorry to see that you have been have problems selling the machine and with ebay.  I guess the Amiga community is so jaded that it is tough for them to accept real deal sometimes. I wish you all the best for selling the machine and thank you for helping me out, I look forward to it greatly.

Good luck with the auction!
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: persia on January 20, 2008, 01:37:20 AM
@anivichano

Does DvD still do video work?  I presume if he does he's switched to Final Cut.

Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: Nlandas on January 20, 2008, 03:21:00 AM
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persia wrote:
@anivichano

Does DvD still do video work?  I presume if he does he's switched to Final Cut.



Hi Persia,

Alex says that DVD is indeed still into video work. He loves Lightwave and recently he's been playing around with DAZ studio. DAZ recently bought Bryce. Their DAZ studio is free for Mac and PC.

DAZ FREE 3D STUDIO (http://www.daz3d.com/i.x/software/studio/-/?)

I didn't ask which platform he chose.

-Nyle
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: anivichano on January 20, 2008, 03:22:32 AM
Greetings ami-junki,

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ami_junki wrote:
@anivichano

Hi Anivichano,

Welcome to Amiga.org,


Thanks! :-)

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I had written to you early on, I am amiga.junkie on ebay, sorry to see that you have been have problems selling the machine and with ebay.


Thanks for your concern and good wishes.  It was never a problem with ebay and quite honestly, I've enjoyed the commotion this entire incident has caused :-)

Overall, its been no trouble at all ... if anything, I believe more people are now aware of the sale :-)

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I guess the Amiga community is so jaded that it is tough for them to accept real deal sometimes. I wish you all the best for selling the machine and thank you for helping me out, I look forward to it greatly.

Good luck with the auction!


Its been a pleasure!

Many thanks,

Alex
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: anivichano on January 20, 2008, 03:25:27 AM
Greetings persia,

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persia wrote:
@anivichano

Does DvD still do video work?  I presume if he does he's switched to Final Cut.



Sorry, but Dick has not jumped ship to Final Cut.  He has stayed very loyal to the company who started it all for him ;-)

Alex
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: persia on January 20, 2008, 05:13:28 PM
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anivichano wrote:
Greetings persia,

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persia wrote:
@anivichano

Does DvD still do video work?  I presume if he does he's switched to Final Cut.



Sorry, but Dick has not jumped ship to Final Cut.  He has stayed very loyal to the company who started it all for him ;-)

Alex


The company that started it all for him died April 29, 1994.  No one should be expected to stay loyal to a company that has been dead for almost 14 years.

Besides one of the previous posts said that he used the current version of Lightwave and Daz Studio, so clearly he uses either a PC or Mac now...
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: anivichano on January 20, 2008, 05:31:45 PM
Greetings persia,

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persia wrote:

The company that started it all for him died April 29, 1994.  No one should be expected to stay loyal to a company that has been dead for almost 14 years.

Besides one of the previous posts said that he used the current version of Lightwave and Daz Studio, so clearly he uses either a PC or Mac now...


Only one of the companies died in 1994.  As you've pointed out, Lightwave is still around and that company makes other products, still.  The Toaster is far from dead and with all the hardware and software support, its quite impressive.

As for the MAC, in my opinion, Steve Jobs has killed it!  The last REAL MAC was the G5 and I'm greatly saddened at its demise.  :-(

Alex

Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: persia on January 21, 2008, 02:55:27 AM
Leopard on a MacIntel is probably the quintessential Mac experience so far.

I bet DvD is using Lightwave 9.3 as we speak.
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: ami_junki on January 21, 2008, 04:26:53 AM
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anivichano wrote:
Greetings persia,

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persia wrote:

The company that started it all for him died April 29, 1994.  No one should be expected to stay loyal to a company that has been dead for almost 14 years.

Besides one of the previous posts said that he used the current version of Lightwave and Daz Studio, so clearly he uses either a PC or Mac now...


Only one of the companies died in 1994.  As you've pointed out, Lightwave is still around and that company makes other products, still.  The Toaster is far from dead and with all the hardware and software support, its quite impressive.

As for the MAC, in my opinion, Steve Jobs has killed it!  The last REAL MAC was the G5 and I'm greatly saddened at its demise.  :-(

Alex




Exactly!  I got a MacBook but the experience somehow is just not the same anymore infact makes me wanna get a G5 again, getting well annoyed with the whole Mac scene ... well at least the Amiga scene is still great!
 :lol:  :lol:  Still can`t beat painting with Deluxe Paint 4 on an A1200 and listening to mods .... ahhhh the great memories
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: anivichano on January 21, 2008, 04:53:50 AM
Greetings persia,

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persia wrote:
Leopard on a MacIntel is probably the quintessential Mac experience so far.

I bet DvD is using Lightwave 9.3 as we speak.


I'll take that bet :-)

The last version of Lightwave which would import Poser scenes is back in Lightwave 7.x ...

He does have version 9.3 and I'm guessing that he uses it ... but I spent a lot of time reverting his one system to Lightwave 7.x, since I'd mistakenly updated that one, too ... he was not happy.

He's much happier now :-)

Alex
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: anivichano on January 21, 2008, 05:02:24 AM
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ami_junki wrote:
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Exactly!  I got a MacBook but the experience somehow is just not the same anymore infact makes me wanna get a G5 again, getting well annoyed with the whole Mac scene ... well at least the Amiga scene is still great!
 :lol:  :lol:  Still can`t beat painting with Deluxe Paint 4 on an A1200 and listening to mods .... ahhhh the great memories


People don't understand that the REAL magic of the MAC was that wonderful Motorola CPU. ... the same family as the Amiga ... by comparison, Intel is back in the stone age!!! ...  Anyone who trys to tell me otherwise doesn't appreciate the true beauty of the MAC!

So what does Jobs do????  He sells out to Intel!!! Sets the MAC back 20 years!!! (in my opinion, of course).

Next I'm expecting the traitor to sell out to M$ in a huge way ... I'm betting that the next MAC OS will be MacVista!!  :-P

Sorry ... didn't mean to get on a soapbox, but the traitorous practices of the computer community have really upset me .... don't get me started on the auto industry or our despicable leaders!!!

Alex

Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: persia on January 21, 2008, 05:06:21 AM
It's nostalgia, that's why we're here.  I remember Amiga from my youth, playing the old games makes me young again and for that I am thankful, but even a duo core Mac runs rings around the Amiga for video and audio production.

The Amiga harkens back to an earlier age in technology, an age where they allowed white out in reports and papers, an age where things like simple video transitions would create a wow in friends and colleagues.

Such as it ever was.  Our kids will become nostalgic over a computer with only a couple of cores and barely 2 gigs of RAM.  Their kids will be nostalgic over things that are unimaginably complex to us.  That's life.

 
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: motrucker on January 21, 2008, 08:09:59 AM
@ anivichano

  I had read way back when, that Jobs didn't really want to switch to intel, but had no choice. He, and Apple had a practice of not taking all (most?) of the Motorola CPUs they ordered when ready, and then months later would try to get the rest at a discounted price. The article said Motorola told Jobs to get it together, or get out. Or maybe just to go...
  I can't find that article now, But I know the news came from   the NCAUG (National Capital Amiga User Group) web site.
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: anivichano on January 21, 2008, 08:34:34 AM
Greetings motrucker,

Thanks for the info.

I know that there are many reasons why Jobs went away from Motorola.  Heck, for that matter Commodore tried to bring in Intel as the "new Amiga" and that failed.

In all, its very sad to see the magic go away, regardless of the technology or the excuses.  Woz was my hero ... on the MAC side. ... on the other side, Miner and Haynie are burned into my brain cells :-)

With the increasing popularity of Linux, there may finally be a chance for basic computer design to progress past the 1960's :-)

And cudos to AMD for their efforts!!!

Alex
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: stefcep2 on January 21, 2008, 09:16:03 AM


Quote: "In all, its very sad to see the magic go away, regardless of the technology or the excuses. Woz was my hero ... on the MAC side. ... on the other side, Miner and Haynie are burned into my brain cells "

What negatives, exactly, have resulted in the look and feel of Macs since they changed CPU's?  What is this "magic" you speak of that "has gone away"?

Quote:"With the increasing popularity of Linux, there may finally be a chance for basic computer design to progress past the 1960's "

I have been dabbling with Linux (Ubuntu, PCLinuxOS, Fedora) for about 1 year.  It has a LONG way to go before it will even remotely be as user-friendly as AmigaOS is, or OSX is or even Windows is.  Fully-functional Linux is a resource hog about as much as XP.  Its display system X is a pain and so are the two GUI systems Gnome and KDE which are SLOW.  And its multitasking is POOR.  Its directory structure is not intuitive: important system directories, which are consistent across distros, have vague names eg "etc"-WTF?  And there is so much fartsing around to do really simple things.  Fine if you want to spend ages learning how your system works.  Oh did I mention if you use a "meta" distro ie constant updating one like PCLinux OS then you HAVE to update your system continuously with whatever new version of whatever file happens to pop-up in the repo's. Otherwise your computer may not boot after you installed that 500k emulator because it needed 550 MB of "updates" to work which you ignored because you thought it ridiculous to install 550 MB just to run a 500k emulator..Linux IMHO at the moment has the look and feel of an amatuer production.  I think its sad that there have been some really good propriatory OS's eg AmigaOS,BeOS, OS/2 that have failed but Linux isn't the way forward yet
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: monami on January 21, 2008, 09:43:04 AM
yes but it's free. :-)
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: anivichano on January 21, 2008, 10:08:57 AM
Greetings stefcep2,

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stefcep2 wrote:


Quote: "In all, its very sad to see the magic go away, regardless of the technology or the excuses. Woz was my hero ... on the MAC side. ... on the other side, Miner and Haynie are burned into my brain cells "

What negatives, exactly, have resulted in the look and feel of Macs since they changed CPU's?  What is this "magic" you speak of that "has gone away"?


In this particular case, the Amiga is still far superior to current systems in hardware.

Just the basics .... until the AMD64 systems came out, the Amiga user interface was, overall, faster than the PCs.

I could swap out hard drives, while the Amiga was running, without crashing ... just now, with eSATA, one can swap only those drives.

Not to mention that ridiculous alphabet system .. c drive, d drive ... ect. ... on Amy, you could name a drive, whatever you wanted (on MAC, too). ... as well as setting which partition you wanted to boot from.

Don't forget the wonderful assigns, so that you have shortcuts to your most often paths.

Now, with respect to MAC, the biggest issue (and its minor for most) is the way the memory and hard drives are accessed to give a "smother" and more responsive human interface ... a sign of quality, in my book.


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Quote:"With the increasing popularity of Linux, there may finally be a chance for basic computer design to progress past the 1960's "

I have been dabbling with Linux

I think its sad that there have been some really good propriatory OS's eg AmigaOS,BeOS, OS/2 that have failed but Linux isn't the way forward yet


I agree with you on the quality of Linux, but that has nothing to do with my hopes.  I'm hoping that the widespread use of Linux allows different hardware configurations to come of age.  The current wintel monopoly does not allow for much deviation of the Intel hardware design, which is a dinosaur from the 60's (IMHO) and its time that hardware evolve to at least the level of the Amiga, if not to 1990's tech levels!

Trouble is, as long as M$ dictates the OS and supports Intel as the hardware platform of choice, there will be very little advancement.  As it was, AMD "strongarmed" M$ into releasing XP64 when AMD testified at M$ ant-trust hearings ... we might still be stuck with only 32bit systems, otherwise.

Chicken and the egg syndrome ... if you can't get better hardware, you won't get better software (OS) ... Linux may be the stepping stone to break that mold?

In all, I don't disagree with you at all.  I'm just hoping for better! :-)

Thanks,

Alex
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: stefcep2 on January 21, 2008, 10:25:40 AM
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monami wrote:
yes but it's free. :-)


And you get what you pay for...
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: stefcep2 on January 21, 2008, 10:43:10 AM
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"The current wintel monopoly does not allow for much deviation of the Intel hardware design, which is a dinosaur from the 60's (IMHO) and its time that hardware evolve to at least the level of the Amiga, if not to 1990's tech levels!"

I could not agree more with you on the sad fact that computer hardware nowdays is made to accomodate the Windows-way of doing things. And no amount of arguing this point with supposed senior members on the Linux forums could make them see that.

Linux is seen as the hope for PC revolution but being on some of those forums made me see that many of these "gurus" are not interested in moving Linux forward as a unit, but rather on moving their chosen distro fdorward relative to other distro's.  They DO NOT take constructive end-user criticism at all well eg I stated my concern re:meta-updates in PCLinuxOS, and the guy behind that distro told me to go elsewhere if i didn't like it and locked the thread.  This despite the fact that 80% of support questions for this distro arise because users do not want to constantly update the OS, and only want to install what they want.  They have,what about 80 distro's of Linux?, wasting their time on re-inventing the wheel, and other trivial things.  And as long as this lack of co-operation exists, MS will feel quite comfortable.
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: Krusher on January 21, 2008, 11:03:31 AM
One could always use ReactOS (http://www.reactos.org/en/index.html)

 :roflmao:
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: gdanko on January 21, 2008, 02:21:08 PM
What does any of this have to do with the topic? These topics always end up as some platform debate. Lame.
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: Kin-Hell on January 21, 2008, 02:40:32 PM
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gdanko wrote:
What does any of this have to do with the topic? These topics always end up as some platform debate. Lame.


...maybe the Dicks get attracted to "Dick" links.....

Chim Chim Cher-oo!......
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: A1260 on January 21, 2008, 03:45:37 PM
no one did bid on the dick dyke a4000t and it ended on Jan-18-08 16:24:20 PST, selling price was only US $49.99 :-o

one lucky mother could have got the dick dyke a4000t for only $49.99!!...  but nooooo.... no one wanted it for that price, and you can just wonder why people whine about expensive old amiga hw...

now its up for sale AGAIN, this time it have a bid for US $305.00...   talk about throwing away your money :lol:

Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: da9000 on January 22, 2008, 12:21:16 AM
ami_junki wrote:
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Exactly!  I got a MacBook but the experience somehow is just not the same anymore infact makes me wanna get a G5 again


I'll take the donation. I don't see how you can sense the endian differences and internal architecure of the CPUs as a user. The OS dictates behaviour and both systems run an identical (at the presentation level) UI.

I never understood how people other than Superman aquired X-ray vision...



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anivichano wrote:
People don't understand that the REAL magic of the MAC was that wonderful Motorola CPU. ... the same family as the Amiga ... by comparison, Intel is back in the stone age!!! ...  Anyone who trys to tell me otherwise doesn't appreciate the true beauty of the MAC!


Sorry Alex, it's Mac, not MAC. So perhaps you're talking about something else, because I don't see any magic missing from any x86 Macs.

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anivichano wrote:
So what does Jobs do????  He sells out to Intel!!! Sets the MAC back 20 years!!! (in my opinion, of course).

Next I'm expecting the traitor to sell out to M$ in a huge way ... I'm betting that the next MAC OS will be MacVista!!  :-P


Boy, I had no idea there were rocks large enough for entire human beings to live under.

What makes you think that Jobs would EVER give up one of Apple's greatest "weapons", Mac OS X, for something as crappy as Vista? Please get out of whichever rock you're hiding. I also dislike Intel (I've been doing low-level x86 programming for over a decade, so I've had my share of "eat your own dog food"), but Macs are far (in the opposite direction) from "20 years back" because of the switch to Intel. Also realize that the predecessor of Mac OS X, NeXTSTEP had support for Intel CPUs since 1993-94. It ain't something new.

Yes, I want architectures (as in subsystems), including Intel's ISA (for the uninitiated ISA = Instruction Set Architecture, and not the typical ISA-bus acronym) to change, and I'm hoping AMD will help, because not only they did a good job with the K8 and 64bit cores, but frankly there are no other players around :-(  And worse off, until we get away from the Van Neuman computational model, I don't this happening soon.

Anyways, good luck with Van Dyke's Amiga sale. It's sad to hear another Amigan jumping ship, but it's fully understandable. Hope it goes to the best home. Just one question: does he know this machine is "worth" more than $1000 to the seller?


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stefcep2 wrote:
What negatives, exactly, have resulted in the look and feel of Macs since they changed CPU's?  What is this "magic" you speak of that "has gone away"?



I fully agree with your line of thinking about Alex's post on the Macs.

However, as far as you Linux comments, I'm sorry to have to say the below  (before I start, I've been using Linux since the day I was told I could play Doom over ethernet, that's around 1995, have followed kernel development, done little kernel programming, and lots in various open source projects from XMMS to X11, etc. Aka, I'm no newbie to Linux):

1) You clearly have no concept of how scalable sytems work. Linux and Unix is the embodiment of a scalable architecture (due to their history and birthplace in highly-networked and distribute environments from AT&T/Bell Labs to academia, DARPA projects, etc), which is an architecture vastly more complicated and compartamentalized in order to overcome the problems with closed systems, which would have "neater layouts" (not only at the filesystem level but also internal module/API/ABI levels) and also less updates (many updates are a necessity for highly modularized and interdependent systems, which is due to optimal usage of resources, such as libraries of code, and data. This is known as re-use or code-reuse and is a staple of less buggy software. If you're not familiar, just think of this: what are the chances of writing the same sentence on the blackboard and making more mistakes: 10 times or 1000 times? By re-using already written code, you minimize, statistically speaking, error propagation). This allows for far faster growth, something you're not aware of, as you state that multi-tasking is poor under Linux. You have no concept of the pre-emptive kernel work, low-latency kernel work, RT Linux work, etc. Yes, those are not things you click and get, that's only on a Mac. These you have to either compile or get the right distribution for, but there are few modern OSs (sorry, AmigaOS doesn't count given it's current featureset) other than RT OSs which guarantee sub-millisecond latency response.

2) Your comments are clearly biased against Linux due to your tainted experience. But you've missed the point: Linux, being an open system allows people to do whatever they want. You went asking the PCLinux or whatever the name was, people to cut down on their methodology (frequent updates), but that's obviously not their "mantra", so their best answer was what you got: you want to look at another Linux that doesn't believe in that. Although not the only one, and not recommended for newbies, I often use Slackware which is much "slower" at updates, and serves me better. The whole point is: Linux isn't one entity, and neither does it owe you anything just because it's free. What it is, is a system which you can modify (if you so wish badly enough, and if not try to find others who feel the same way and wish it more badly than you, so that they have actually taken the time and put the effort to do so), so that it does what you want it.

3) I also don't like many aspects of Linux and Unix, but I understand that complex and advanced systems aren't built overnight and because of that they carry a lot of history. In your particular case, "/etc" is confusing to you (much like the SYS:L would be an Amiga newbie), since you've no concept of Unix's history and the "baggage" that Linux got due to its ideological roots (not talking about code here) being in the Unix world. Apple for example, despite deriving part of their Mac OS X from FreeBSD, have chosen to change the historical conventions. Linux folks don't see it necessary. Don't like it? Goes back to the previous point, make your own distro and change the naming (but be warned: it'll be a pain, because you're going against historical trends, once again, which have been deemed by those working on Linux as HELPFUL to them, unlike what you think, and thus fully ingrained into their Linux work). If that sounds like too much pain, then Linux or your current distros aren't for you. Now, what people mean when they say "Linux is the future", is not that it's perfect, but that it's a platform embodying the perfect mentality for massive-scale parallel software developement. Aka, it's Open Source.

And to end on a positive note: I'm certain there'll be a Linux version/distro in the future that foregoes the old Unix baggage in many ways (X11 included, and I for one would like to see something like Apple's PDF based Quartz-like architecture for GUI - DRI doesn't suck completely, but it's not really such a good architecture, nor very clean - too long a discussion for now) and evolves into the future of Linux.


Sorry for the off-topic guys. I saw a box of soap and stepped on it... Feel free to ignore it, but don't be fooled into thinking that ignorance is bliss. It's mental poverty.
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: amigadave on January 22, 2008, 12:33:05 AM
If you feel compelled to continue this discussion about Macs, Linux distributions, etc., please have the decency to start a new thread and copy the parts you want from this thread.  Thanks
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: amigadave on January 22, 2008, 12:43:41 AM
For those who mistakenly think the auction ended with no bids for the $49.95, I don't know exactly what happened, but it is currently relisted and the bid amount is $425 with 4+ days to go.
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: joetee on January 26, 2008, 03:57:39 PM
>by amigadave on 2008/1/21 19:43:41
said:
> If you feel compelled to continue this discussion about
> Macs, Linux distributions, etc., please have the decency > to start a new thread and copy the parts you want from
> this thread. Thanks

Yes please a new thread! ...and start another one for Anti-Gravity gripes!!!

Amigadave said also:

> For those who mistakenly think the auction ended with no > bids for the $49.95, I don't know exactly what happened, > but it is currently relisted and the bid amount is $425
> with 4+ days to go.

Yep. Its getting pricy _because its worth it_!
 (1Hr left)
A 4000T, an 060, a Flyer, an Amiga X-Surf, A Cyber-GFX, SCSI H&CD drives, SW, and even a HD Floppy!

My bid of Four hundred and Twenty (420) was surpassed - should I bid 840?
Yep!
.     .   .  . ..JoeT.. .   .    .     .
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: Plaz on January 26, 2008, 04:23:50 PM
The system was relisted at this link....
Van Dyke's Amiga on Ebay (http://cgi.ebay.com/Dick-Van-Dyke-s-personal-RARE-Amiga-4000T-Toaster-Sys_W0QQitemZ180208438492QQihZ008QQcategoryZ4598QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

Up to $700+ so far, but ends in about an hour.

Plaz
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: tokyoracer on January 26, 2008, 06:20:57 PM
Nearly $1k (about £500). That's impressively cheap if I'm honest.
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: Krusher on January 26, 2008, 06:28:47 PM
I'd rather saw it go to joetee, but alas, it's going to Switzerland.
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: Plaz on January 27, 2008, 07:57:08 PM
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Krusher wrote:
I'd rather saw it go to joetee, but alas, it's going to Switzerland.


I though it would bring a little more, maybe $1200us. I consider $987us a bit of a bargain. With missing bits like the case cover and drives I don't think it had a chance of going over $1500 autographed.

So the winner is in Switzerland? That's going to add a hefty shipping charge from the US. However with the falling value of the dollar, maybe it's still a great bargain in Switzerland.

Plaz
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: DaBest on January 27, 2008, 09:00:59 PM
And it's going up & up & up & up in price.
Shees......almost $1000 now......

But the real question is???????????

How's the ownderfull Amiga sad invention of a BATTERY doing

 :crazy:  :lol:  :-D  :-P  :roll:  :-P
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: anivichano on February 02, 2008, 07:49:27 AM
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DaBest wrote:

But the real question is???????????

How's the ownderfull Amiga sad invention of a BATTERY doing





In this case, very well.  This motherboard uses the button type batteries.

Help, please.  How would I go about to upload a photo for this group?

Many thanks,

Alex
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: Nlandas on February 03, 2008, 05:57:59 PM
Hi Alex,

If you can put the image onto a website anywhere then you can click the link above to add an image from the URL. It's the third button from the left below all the smilies.

If you don't have web space, I do and I'd be happy to host it for you. Just email it to me at my address that you have.

Thanks,
Nyle(toohuge)
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: carvedeye on February 03, 2008, 07:42:07 PM
i have just clicked on the link and noticed it ended and there were no bids?....i cant believe it never sold.
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: Invisix on February 03, 2008, 08:00:26 PM
It received 29 bids and sold for $986.98 USD.

I don't care what anyone says... I still think this guy totally duped people into believing this was Dick Van Dykes A4000T.

Some people are very gullible.

By the way, here is the link to the relist (auction has ended): http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180208438492
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: Nlandas on February 03, 2008, 08:13:24 PM
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Invisix wrote:
It received 29 bids and sold for $986.98 USD.

I don't care what anyone says... I still think this guy totally duped people into believing this was Dick Van Dykes A4000T.

Some people are very gullible.


Then I hope he posts the picture and helps to eliminate some of your concern.

I think the unit went for less than it was worth.

The Cybervision card alone goes for over $400USD on eBay and then it had Ethernet, VT 4000, etc. It is worth more than what it sold for even if you don't think DVD owned it.

Regardless, Alex strikes me as a nice person.

-Nyle
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: anivichano on February 05, 2008, 07:50:13 PM
Greetings Invisix,

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Invisix wrote:


I don't care what anyone says... I still think this guy totally duped people into believing this was Dick Van Dykes A4000T.

Some people are very gullible.




You have a right to your opinion.

On the other hand, unsubstantiated opinions are just a lot of hot air.  Is it really more important for you to speak without doing ANY research, at all?  I find that very unkind.

Kindly view:
http://www.landas.com/Quick/PICT00013.JPG
http://www.landas.com/Quick/PICT00021.JPG
http://www.landas.com/Quick/PICT0003.JPG

Smaller 640X480 views -
http://www.landas.com/Quick/small_PICT00013.jpg
http://www.landas.com/Quick/small_PICT00021.jpg
http://www.landas.com/Quick/small_PICT0003.jpg

Thanks,

Alex
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: Nlandas on February 06, 2008, 01:47:20 AM
Did anyone check out the photos?  :-o

Looks like anivichano, really does know DVD after all.

-Nyle   :-)
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: Miked on February 06, 2008, 02:42:51 AM
I can't help but think if those pictures were part of the ebay sale, the price might have been much higher!
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: anivichano on February 06, 2008, 03:28:12 AM
Greetings Miked,

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Miked wrote:
I can't help but think if those pictures were part of the ebay sale, the price might have been much higher!


It would have been nice, but it was not the objective.  Besides which, hindsight is 20/20 ... I didn't even think of that, when I picked up the machine, otherwise I would have taken some picks.  Of course, Dick's schedule did not allow me to get some picks, during the listing :-(

To me, personally, this was a success.  Dick is happy, the guy who bought it is ecstatic and I'm happy ... I really can't ask for more :-)

I hope all of my transactions are as successful (and entertaining) :-)

Its always a real pleasure to work on an A4000T or A3000 ... no matter how much people rave about their new machines, in my heart, the Amiga is still #1 !!!

Alex
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: persia on February 06, 2008, 03:54:29 AM
And check out the replacement computer in the background!  Looks like Dick continues his NewTek ways with a WIndows PC.
Title: Re: Dick Van Dyke sells his Amiga 4000T on ebay
Post by: anivichano on February 06, 2008, 04:23:20 AM
Greetings persia,

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persia wrote:
And check out the replacement computer in the background!  Looks like Dick continues his NewTek ways with a WIndows PC.


Actually, there are 3 PCs there ... however, that 42 inch monitor will work on MACs as well :-)

Westinghouse LVM-42

It doesn't have the high resolution that the MAC 30 inch monitor has, but the size is so that he doesn't need to wear glasses and that resolution is fine for video work.

And yes, I've been lusting after that monitor :-(

Alex