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MIDI Beyond theBasics and Other Such Stuff
« on: March 30, 2012, 08:28:49 PM »
Hello, I have finally got the inspiration to work on some more tracks and perhaps finish off a couple that I abandoned.

The thing is that I'm tired of only being able to use OctaMED S.S. to trigger a key on my keyboard, not to mention being limited to the fact that when OctaMED triggers the key it plays it as if the Key is being held down rather than letting me define how hard and how long the key is pressed. Does anyone have any info on this?

Beyond that I'd like to be able to trigger drums from my drum machine, but even though my drum machine is set to the propper MIDI channel, it does not respond. Likewise when I wire the drum machine for input into the Amiga, nothing happens when I strike a drum pad.

Mind you I can feed input into the Amiga via a Keyboard just fine so I know my settings must be configured correctly.

On top of all this I'd also like to know how one goes about triggering your Keyboard and Drum Machine to start playing, and playing at the same BPM as the Amiga, when I tell the Amiga to play. I.E. let's say I've defined my patterns and songs on my Drum Machine and I've written up a little song on OctaMED, and I want them to sync and start playing together when I press play on OctaMED.

Lastly, I would like to know how one is supposd to use the Auxilarly jack on the back of your hardware. Is this the port that I run into my Effects Processor, then from there, out the Left and RIght audio jacks and into my Mixer?
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Re: MIDI Beyond theBasics and Other Such Stuff
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2012, 10:19:58 PM »
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Beyond that I'd like to be able to trigger drums from my drum machine,  but even though my drum machine is set to the propper MIDI channel, it  does not respond. Likewise when I wire the drum machine for input into  the Amiga, nothing happens when I strike a drum pad.
Don't know which drummachine you have, but in general these machines are not designed to output midi notes. Midi out is basically for sending start/stop/tempo signals and for using midi thru.

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On top of all this I'd also like to know how one goes about triggering  your Keyboard and Drum Machine to start playing, and playing at the same  BPM as the Amiga, when I tell the Amiga to play. I.E. let's say I've  defined my patterns and songs on my Drum Machine and I've written up a  little song on OctaMED, and I want them to sync and start playing  together when I press play on OctaMED.
I think you should put the drummachine in the right sync mode. This to make sure it
a) plays in sync with the amiga
or
b) plays the midi notes
It's normally set one or the other.
Set midi channel on the amiga and drummachine to 10, which is the normal channel for these type of machines.
 

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Re: MIDI Beyond theBasics and Other Such Stuff
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2012, 10:24:28 PM »
I have an Akai Xr-20 for the note.

Am also using a MicrKorg
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« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2012, 12:09:12 AM »
You should be able to transmit midi notes with the xr 20, if you set the option to "on". In SS, have you selected 'midi/input active', 'read key-up's' and 'read volume' ?

Your setup should look like: korg->amiga->xr20->korg
The korg first, as master keyboard and later when playing, as instrument. My own setup looks a bit like this (also starts with the korg) only a bit more complicated ;)
 

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Re: MIDI Beyond theBasics and Other Such Stuff
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2012, 03:39:13 AM »
Guys lets keep this thread alive we need more like this. There is very little info on making Amiga music with midi on line.

Is there someone out there that can do a cool youtube vid showing their gear, how its integrated and how to use it??
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Re: MIDI Beyond theBasics and Other Such Stuff
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2012, 04:11:58 AM »
Like this? :)

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vPocY3UlK5A

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Re: MIDI Beyond theBasics and Other Such Stuff
« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2012, 04:18:31 AM »
Also, as a side note.

I ran my Miracle Piano's out to my Korg's IN.

My hope was to use the Miracle Piano's Keys in place of the Korg's tiny keys. The Magic ddoes not have a means to select a Midi channel so I presume it out puts to 1?

Can't get the Korg to respond.

Edit: I need to check if the Miracle has dip switches.
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« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2012, 02:52:24 PM »
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My hope was to use the Miracle Piano's Keys in place of the Korg's tiny keys.
Maybe your hands are too big. :D

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The Magic ddoes not have a means to select a Midi channel so I presume it out puts to 1?
Yeah, the 'magic' should output to channel 1 (i guess you have the manual->http://pianoeducation.org/pnompfaq.html#manuals). Just change the channel on the korg to match that.
 

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Re: MIDI Beyond theBasics and Other Such Stuff
« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2012, 04:51:57 PM »
You are correct, channel 1, and I had to unplug the serial cable.

Sadly I can only activate a limited key range with it...

Maybe I need that foot pedal that I'm lacking? Oh well...


Got everything else working though!!!!!!! Thankx x303!!!
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Re: MIDI Beyond theBasics and Other Such Stuff
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2012, 05:50:03 PM »
This was sequenced with an A500 according to the notes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfdPfsYlgck
 

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« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2012, 06:17:15 PM »
I just got Roland GAIA and I would like to get it running with OctaMED Studio sometime.
I would like to find a book which explains all the MIDI basics.

I think the drums are running on MIDI CH10.
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« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2012, 06:27:34 PM »
Quote from: amiman99;686281
I just got Roland GAIA and I would like to get it running with OctaMED Studio sometime.
I would like to find a book which explains all the MIDI basics.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIDI
Not enough info, check out all the links below the page.
 

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Re: MIDI Beyond theBasics and Other Such Stuff
« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2012, 06:29:31 PM »
Animan99: If you follow X303's advice, and learn how to set up your MIDI on your device, then play around a bit, you'll find that setting this all up is a LOT easier than it seems!

I really wish I hadn't promised my brother that I'd come over for the week's end, else I'd be doing nothing but this for the next 48 hours! :)
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Re: MIDI Beyond theBasics and Other Such Stuff
« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2012, 06:36:50 PM »
I'm a visual person so links like that help me more, this is what I found http://www.synthman.com/roland/support/supplementalnotes/SUPNOTES/MIDI.html
Specific links to OctaMED or othe Amiga sw would be better.
I also have Atari STE with 4MB RAM and Notator SW, maybe this way is easier???
A500 KS 2.1, 1MB Chip, 68000
A600 KS 3.1, 2MB Chip, ACA630 32MB RAM
A1000 KS 1.3, 8MB RAM
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A2000 KS 2.1, 68030 25MHz, 6MB RAM
A3000 KS 3.1, 68030 25MHz, 16MB RAM
A4000 KS 3.0, 68040 25MHz, 16MB RAM
CDTV KS 3.1, 4MB RAM
CD32
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Re: MIDI Beyond theBasics and Other Such Stuff
« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2012, 06:47:00 PM »
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Specific links to OctaMED or othe Amiga sw would be better.
http://aminet.net/package/mus/midi/cam_deAB
This program (demo) looks a bit like cubase. Loads of options to play with.