Is Amiga NG underpowered?

[ElPolloDiabl]

Is Amiga NG underpowered and that is why I don't want to buy one?
I hate to troll, but the new PowerPC systems are getting old or seriously old.
Any chance of us moving to an ARM platform?

[xboxOwn]

Is Amiga NG underpowered and that is why I don't want to buy one?
I hate to troll, but the new PowerPC systems are getting old or seriously old.
Any chance of us moving to an ARM platform?

I have one suggestion. Lay down on your bed or couch, close your eyes until you sleep. Then in your dreams you can have all your wishes come to true. Downsize of it though, you will have to wake up. But ONLY there will you have your Amiga NG in an ARM platform.

You could do that as a solution OOOOoorrr skip OS 4.1 and use either AROS/MorphOS.

[OlafS3]

I have one suggestion. Lay down on your bed or couch, close your eyes until you sleep. Then in your dreams you can have all your wishes come to true. Downsize of it though, you will have to wake up. But ONLY there will you have your Amiga NG in an ARM platform.

You could do that as a solution OOOOoorrr skip OS 4.1 and use either AROS/MorphOS.

+1

That would be my advice too

If you want ARM (and use something on Raspberry) you have the option to use AROS (2 devs are right now working on a native version with full hardware seupport). Or use MorphOS on one of the many cheap options.

[SamuraiCrow]

RasPi support is being added to Aros on a daily basis.  $35 mobo anyone?  But before you shout for joy, remember that a PPC is about 2x as fast per clock cycle and Intel is about 4x as fast per clock cycle versus an ARM CPU.

Since code density affects the efficiency of the caches, RISC processors have poor performance.  My suggestion is wait for the next-generation of 68k compatible FPGA cores.  They may not be as fast as PPC native code on PPC but can probably beat some emulators.  Likewise ARM CPUs are sloooow per clock cycle.

[broadblues]

Is Amiga NG underpowered

Depnds what you want to do, *all* computers are underpowered as the demands of the user expand to twice the available processing power....

and that is why I don't want to buy one?

How should we know why you don't want to buy one?

I hate to troll,

So don;t :-)

but the new PowerPC systems are getting old or seriously old.

There are new systems in the works and my X1k and SAM are still giving me great service

Any chance of us moving to an ARM platform?

I wouldn't hold my breath, and if were started tomorrow, by the time you got it all fully working the worl would be using the LEG processor faimilly and we'd start this conversation again.

[NovaCoder]

Well as it runs on a PC now...the answer is no!

[carvedeye]

Is Amiga NG underpowered and that is why I don't want to buy one?
I hate to troll, but the new PowerPC systems are getting old or seriously old.
Any chance of us moving to an ARM platform?

I personaly think that AmigaOS should be ported to X86 hardware and only then would NG Amiga's have a chance of becoming mainstream.

[SamuraiCrow]

I personaly think that AmigaOS should be ported to X86 hardware and only then would NG Amiga's have a chance of becoming mainstream.

There's going to be a mandatory ROM lockout of non-approved (hobby) OSs on all new Windows 10 systems.  NG Amigas have no chance of becoming mainstream.   I'm going back to the classics using FPGA technology.  Classics have a better chance by sheer virtue of having more software.

[eliyahu]

Is Amiga NG underpowered and that is why I don't want to buy one?
I hate to troll, but the new PowerPC systems are getting old or seriously old.
Any chance of us moving to an ARM platform?

i don't consider that question trolling at all. it really depends on what you want to do. for me, the next-gen amigas have plenty of power. but then again i'm not using blender to do HD video editing on a regular basis. i have a company-provided PC for all work-related computing. on my next-gen amigas i watch my video collection, do my taxes and home accounting, participate in IRC, browse the web, manage my personal email accounts, figure out my nightly star-gazing, play around with tons of classic amiga apps and games, do digital sketching....

with the possible exception of web browsing, i've never thought, "man, i really need more grunt." but that's just my own use-case. was there something in particular you wanted to do on these machines? maybe that way we could figure out if the next-gen amigas have enough power or not. they make sense for some people (like me) and no sense for others. it just depends.

-- eliyahu

[ElPolloDiabl]

@above
With a good graphics card raw CPU power would not be as important. I should make a list of any difficult programs that I might use.

[Gulliver]

Is Amiga NG underpowered and that is why I don't want to buy one?
I hate to troll, but the new PowerPC systems are getting old or seriously old.
Any chance of us moving to an ARM platform?

Yes, it is astonishingly underpowered.

But there is one notable exception: AROS x86

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

I'm happily chugging along at 33MHz on my classic system, able to do everything I need it to do including browse the web, play mp3's, gaming, etc.  These kind of questions really drive me nuts; what's underpowered for one person might be fantastic for someone else, ya know?  :griping:

[xboxOwn]

I'm happily chugging along at 33MHz on my classic system, able to do everything I need it to do including browse the web, play mp3's, gaming, etc.  These kind of questions really drive me nuts; what's underpowered for one person might be fantastic for someone else, ya know?  :griping:

Yeah, like take my pc for example. 8 core processor with windows 7 and 8 GB ram. What I use it fo?  Movies, browse net, Netflix, youtube, watch online movies and play xbox 360 qualities on my pc. Do I ever intend to upgrade ib future? Never! Until I am dead. To others my pc is junk to me it is a rocket

[danbeaver]

Is Amiga NG underpowered and that is why I don't want to buy one?
I hate to troll, but the new PowerPC systems are getting old or seriously old.
Any chance of us moving to an ARM platform?

What has been your experience with the Amiga NG computers?  The ARM chip based devices? Have you found specific OS4.1 programs that you believe would benefit from a more "powerful" ARM CPU?  Have you considered porting them to an ARM based device?

If you have not asked yourself these questions, then I think that would be the first step in any inquiry of this nature.