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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Software Issues and Discussion => Topic started by: runequester on September 26, 2010, 03:54:52 AM
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So what sort of patches, tweaks, little apps etc do you generally consider a "must" whether for convenience, performance etc for a 3.0/3.1 install ?
Please include some basic description rather than just the name :)
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Hey runequester; Well, I've been using 3.9 for a while, I'm pretty sure most of these are cool under 3.1.
-Magic Menu V. 2.30 (improves look and operation of menus)
-PowerSnap V2.22a (allows cut-and-paste text between almost any amiga programs)
-MCP (Grrr, it does pretty much EVERYthing, not gonna list it all...) Note: some ppl think MCP is a buggy bit of *^&^, but I've used it for years, no problem
-ReqAttack 1.1 (Improves requesters, mostly cosmetic)
-ToolsDaemon (allows you to add menus, sub-menus, hotkeys, etc.)
-some virus checker (there might be virii around on old disks..)
-FBlit (helps to conserve Chip RAM usage)
I'm sure others can add to the list... :)
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Thanks! I'll poke around and give some of these a shot :)
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You could save yourself a lot of time and hassles by downloading classicwb. Its probably been the most stable Workbench environment I've ever used (unless you install CGX4-there is a conflict there that I haven't worked out yet
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MUI (although probably such an obvious one it probably didnt need mentioning).
Im a bit of an eye candy guy, so for that side of things:
VisualPrefs (lots of options to customise the look of Amiga OS that arent possible by default)
Birdie2k (lets you apply graphics to windows)
One of many icon types/systems. Probably newicons is the way to go for aga machines.
TrueType Fonts.
Magic Menu2 (probably not eye candy on non rtg machines, but still an essential)
Other stuff that's worthwhile are things like:
PowerWindowsNG (a lot of its content is covered elsewhere, but I really dislike the way amiga os requires entire windows to be on the physical view and powerwindows redeems that)
A file system other than ofs/ffs. PFS3 or SFS are probably your best choices in my opinion.
Snoopdos (very handy for when youre customising you os3.x system to find problems)
Stackattack (being that a lot of amiga oses instabilities are stack related this is an essential in my op.)
About a billion others, some of which have already been mentioned by others in this thread
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You could save yourself a lot of time and hassles by downloading classicwb. Its probably been the most stable Workbench environment I've ever used (unless you install CGX4-there is a conflict there that I haven't worked out yet
Agreed. I have Classic Workbench AGA installed on my A4000 and Classic Workbench installed on my Minimig. OK, the buggering around with WinUAE is a bit of a pain, but it is worthwhile in the end. I use P96 for RTG so I haven't seen a conflict there. However, I'm having issues with my Deneb in DMA or PIO mode and my Power Flyer IDE card which I "suspect" may be related to CW, but I can work around the issues.
I wish somebody could get a licence to issue a full Classic Workbench
installation off disk that already includes the necessary OS3.x files and call it OS3.99. :)
I've had nothing but frustration trying to get AmiKit and AmigaSys installed on a real Amiga.
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I've had nothing but frustration trying to get AmiKit and AmigaSys installed on a real Amiga.
I hope this helps:
http://amikit.amiga.sk/download/misc/documents/AmiKit_on_real_Amiga.pdf
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I hope this helps:
http://amikit.amiga.sk/download/misc/documents/AmiKit_on_real_Amiga.pdf
Cheers Amikit :-) :-)
I take the opportunity to congrat you for your fine job.
I'm not into amiga emulation, but Amikit is the only package i enjoy on my laptop :-)
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I hope this helps:
http://amikit.amiga.sk/download/misc/documents/AmiKit_on_real_Amiga.pdf
Thanks for that. I'm at work until the 20th, but I'll give that a go when I get home.
I have AmiKit working great on the latest AmigaForever on my PC, but every attempt to do the install via the setup prog and WB3.1 disks on my actual A4000 ended in disaster.
This looks a pretty good way to install it using the working AmigaForever install and it will be a breeze to transfer via an archive file on a USB stick.
I'll let you know how it goes. :)
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Cheers Amikit :-) :-)
I take the opportunity to congrat you for your fine job.
I'm not into amiga emulation, but Amikit is the only package i enjoy on my laptop :-)
Thank you very much! :)
Thanks for that.
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I'll let you know how it goes. :)
You're welcome. If you have any questions please use the AmiKit forum at http://amikit.amiga.sk/forum/index.php
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Agreed. I have Classic Workbench AGA installed on my A4000 and Classic Workbench installed on my Minimig. OK, the buggering around with WinUAE is a bit of a pain, but it is worthwhile in the end. I use P96 for RTG so I haven't seen a conflict there. However, I'm having issues with my Deneb in DMA or PIO mode and my Power Flyer IDE card which I "suspect" may be related to CW, but I can work around the issues.
I wish somebody could get a licence to issue a full Classic Workbench
installation off disk that already includes the necessary OS3.x files and call it OS3.99. :)
I've had nothing but frustration trying to get AmiKit and AmigaSys installed on a real Amiga.
oh your so right had such a task to get my wb 3.1 installed again ,
had down a dsm archive so one sent me years go mircle that was still there . then had salvage using disc salv 2 then find 2 floppys that still chould be formated
my workbench and another l forgget but was alot stress wonder if people that do the amiga forever chould sell such thing l dont really want buy full emualtion package .
say just on cdrom with discs as adf etc make possible if you dont have cdrom on your amiga
oh thanks for the info and orginall poster as joged my memory on cool things to add
fbit was great need that know as only got 4 megs ram
found utl called mrq think was reqwester add on
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@ Amikit
Buuut this was supposed to be about a 3.0 - 3.1 installation. Hey AmigaKit, how about you make a lite version for say, 68030s with no RTG, but a kickass 3.1 based system with the best patches etc.
You know, kick it down a notch, little bamm!
Nobody cares about 3.9 anymore in the 68K world. They all realized it was junk, without MUI, MagicWB, and a crappy TCP/IP stack. Cool people use 3.1 and build their own hot rod.
Props to the classicwb install stuff though, that is the right direction.
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"Nobody cares about 3.9 anymore in the 68K world. They all realized it was junk, without MUI, MagicWB, and a crappy TCP/IP stack. Cool people use 3.1 and build their own hot rod."
lol thought I was only dinosaur using 3.1
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thanks amikit
your top store hope to buy from you soon
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@ Amikit
Buuut this was supposed to be about a 3.0 - 3.1 installation. Hey AmigaKit, how about you make a lite version for say, 68030s with no RTG, but a kickass 3.1 based system with the best patches etc.
You know, kick it down a notch, little bamm!
Nobody cares about 3.9 anymore in the 68K world. They all realized it was junk, without MUI, MagicWB, and a crappy TCP/IP stack. Cool people use 3.1 and build their own hot rod.
Props to the classicwb install stuff though, that is the right direction.
+1 or make that +10!
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@ Amikit
Buuut this was supposed to be about a 3.0 - 3.1 installation. Hey AmigaKit, how about you make a lite version for say, 68030s with no RTG, but a kickass 3.1 based system with the best patches etc.
You know, kick it down a notch, little bamm!
Nobody cares about 3.9 anymore in the 68K world. They all realized it was junk, without MUI, MagicWB, and a crappy TCP/IP stack. Cool people use 3.1 and build their own hot rod.
Props to the classicwb install stuff though, that is the right direction.
large hd drive support is nice, and the icon info tool with drag and drop is nice. i also like the real time scrolling of icons in a window. multiview works better too. the dock is less hassle than a tool manager dock. but I hate the double reset, especially on an A4000 with all its zorro slots filled. I wish 3.9 came with a new kickstart.