iPad 2

[Kesa]

Nothing like the PC world of the 80s or the Amiga, we didn't walk down the street or sit on a train with an A1000 & monitor under our arm or sitting on our lap to try and look cool... :lol:

So everyone DIDN'T do that? I used to do it because i thought everyone did it and i didn't want to be different

P.S. i use to pretend it was a gettoblaster and thought i was as cool as s**t

[amigakid]

I didnt care for the first one and don't care for the second one.  What's the big deal of the second one, the new Android tablets coming out are superior by far.  Apple is so closed and so controlled I'll pass.  The new one looks like the old one with a few more advances..oooohhhh.  As a long  time Amiga owner, user and lover I find that every year Apple becomes more and more closed, controlling and not for me.  For peats sakes why is it sooooo hard to just add a removable media slot or USB slot?  I'll tell u why because they are money and power hungry.  No memory slot means you can never upgrade the memory (well at least not unless you take it apart) so you have to buy the more expensive model.  No USB? Come on give me a break, Apple doesn't listen to what people want, they just give u what they think you want.  If they added USB then you would be able to hook up a real Keyboard and mouse, but without it then you have to pay $39 for their stupid accessories to have one.  If Apple really was for the customers then they would have removable batteries, USB, Removable media to say as a start, the things people have complained about since day one.  If you like Apple that's cool, but for me its the openess and uncontrolling world of Android.

[bloodline]

Gawd... what a sad & crazy statement to make...

How on earth could you class someone as an Artist if all they did "was press a button"...

What "skills and talent" does it take to carry out this monumental task of pressing a button in order to become an Artist...

Oh look, I just pressed the button for me front door bell and it's playing a wee tune, wow I must be an Artist...

Without going into my likes & dislikes of what I call music and artists, a simple fact remains if an Artist or Band cant play well live then they are indeed talentless...

Technology already exists that can propel totally talentless musically retarded emotionally brain dead morons to massive success, you only have to look at the musically inept "Black Eyed Peas" as a prime example. They can't make music and they are horrible live... The general public love them...

But I've toured with musicians much much more talented than myself, who have never even achieved what little success I did...

I guess popular arts have always been this way, technology will always allow the talentless to suceed, but it will also be used by the brilliant to make something that will be remembered for the rest of civilisation

The black eyed peas will be forgotten tomorrow, because they are shit... But other truely tallented artists using the same technology will be remembered.






*disclaimer I don't like the black eyed peas.

[Kesa]

Technology already exists that can propel totally talentless musically retarded emotionally brain dead morons to massive success, you only have to look at the musically inept "Black Eyed Peas" as a prime example. They can't make music and they are horrible live... The general public love them...

But I've toured with musicians much much more talented than myself, who have never even achieved what little success I did...

I guess popular arts have always been this way, technology will always allow the talentless to suceed, but it will also be used by the brilliant to make something that will be remembered for the rest of civilisation

The black eyed peas will be forgotten tomorrow, because they are shit... But other truely tallented artists using the same technology will be remembered.






*disclaimer I don't like the black eyed peas.

Please provide examples of these truely talented artists that will be remembered. I want to listen

The first artist that comes into my head are the Chemical Brothers and maybe Lady Gaga

Overrated would be the Prodigy - they are shit.

[bloodline]

Please provide examples of these truely talented artists that will be remembered. I want to listen

I was thinking of the pioneers of the last 50 years, from the introduction of the electric guitar, the multitrack recording studio, the analogue synth, the sampler and the DAW... All these things have been used and abused... But now we only remember the artists who were good... Not necessarily who were the most popular

The first artist that comes into my head are the Chemical Brothers and maybe Lady Gaga

not overly impressed by Lady Gaga, she doesn't write or compose the music (she has "input" to get a credit, but that is often little more than sitting with the production team during a session), but her production team have found a formula that does work and they use it well.

Overrated would be the Prodigy - they are shit.

I'm no fan of the Prodigy, but Liam Howlett's smapler work on Fat of the Land is exceptional. I would have to say that Fat of the Land was really pushing the boundaries for samplers at the time, it's easy to do all that stuff now... But to do it on a few Roland W-30s and akai samplers in the late 90s was amazing. I would say that if you listen to that album from a technical stand point you will appreciate it more

[Kronos]

you only have to look at the musically inept "Black Eyed Peas" as a prime example. They can't make music and they are horrible live...

I wouldn't know, but for me they are (just like the Gaga) radio-music. Stuff that I will turn the volume up when I hear while snailing along the Autobahn (read when music ist just background entertainment.

I would never ever buy a record by them and when I really ! listen ! to music I tend to get somewhat away from the mainstream (sometimes only a little bit sometimes right into the land of the bizzare).

*disclaimer I don't like the black eyed peas.

Who would have thought .....

[dentunes]

But to do it on a few Roland W-30s and akai samplers in the late 90s was amazing. I would say that if you listen to that album from a technical stand point you will appreciate it more

Man, haven't heard the W-30 mentioned in ages. Nothing like a keyboard that required floppy disks to load the operating system in before you could use it!

[dentunes]

I wouldn't know, but for me they are (just like the Gaga) radio-music. Stuff that I will turn the volume up when I hear while snailing along the Autobahn (read when music ist just background entertainment.

I would never ever buy a record by them and when I really ! listen ! to music I tend to get somewhat away from the mainstream (sometimes only a little bit sometimes right into the land of the bizzare).



Who would have thought .....

Were you aware the new Korg keyboard is called Kronos?

Maybe you changed your name to be like it, I don't know.
PS I may have already said this before. I have a shocking memory.

[bloodline]

I wouldn't know, but for me they are (just like the Gaga) radio-music. Stuff that I will turn the volume up when I hear while snailing along the Autobahn (read when music ist just background entertainment.

Speaking of the Autobahn, Kraftwerk are an example of remembered pioneers, others produced music using synthesisers around the same time, but we tend to forget them as they didn't do anything great... /me puts Man Machine on iPod

I would never ever buy a record by them and when I really ! listen ! to music I tend to get somewhat away from the mainstream (sometimes only a little bit sometimes right into the land of the bizzare).

Me too, I recently bought Unheilig's last album (Grosse Freiheit)... Probably quite mainstream in Germany, but unusual here in the UK

Who would have thought .....

I know! Weird huh... But the clues were there if you look for them :lol:

[bloodline]

Man, haven't heard the W-30 mentioned in ages. Nothing like a keyboard that required floppy disks to load the operating system in before you could use it!

I still have a W-30 here, with 7seconds of sample time you have to be very clever how you use it. I keep it around (much like my Amigas), because it add a very unique "colour" to the audio... 12bit sampler and real analogue filters (and probabaly the age of the components) are just unique

[Kronos]

Me too, I recently bought Unheilig's last album (Grosse Freiheit)... Probably quite mainstream in Germany, but unusual here in the UK

*shrug*

DM are mainstream too, doesn't mean I stop buying ....

Bout Unheilig, my favorite:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NS4UbYdBZE

Talking bout somewhat mainstream but still weird on UTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsrR6nSF3TU

Sounds like it was made with Amiga Sisters meet Lotus-Turbo-Esprit *


*disclaimer : I really like the sisters, right to the point of admitting being a fan

[bloodline]

*shrug*

DM are mainstream too, doesn't mean I stop buying ....

Another synth/sampler pioneer (and for me, a musical pioneer too).

Bout Unheilig, my favorite:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NS4UbYdBZE

Love it!

Talking bout somewhat mainstream but still weird on UTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsrR6nSF3TU

Sounds like it was made with Amiga Sisters meet Lotus-Turbo-Esprit *


*disclaimer : I really like the sisters, right to the point of admitting being a fan

 
:lol:

[Franko]

I guess popular arts have always been this way, technology will always allow the talentless to suceed, but it will also be used by the brilliant to make something that will be remembered for the rest of civilisation

I likes them words...

All this talk about music has reminded me of a question that I've often asked folk but never had an answer too...

Why does no-one invent new musical instruments anymore, I mean pianos, guitars the sax etc.. were all invented gawd knows how long ago, but other than synths why has no-one ever invented a new musical instrument that has caught on like the afore-mentioned... :confused:

(Always puzzled me has that...

[dentunes]

I still have a W-30 here, with 7seconds of sample time you have to be very clever how you use it. I keep it around (much like my Amigas), because it add a very unique "colour" to the audio... 12bit sampler and real analogue filters (and probabaly the age of the components) are just unique

I have a Roland MT-32 still sitting between my two Apple Cinema Displays for old school gaming (Space Quest, Leisure Suit Larry and pretty much every other Sierra game back then). It doesn't get much use for gigs anymore, like it did back in the early 90's

[Kesa]

I likes them words...

All this talk about music has reminded me of a question that I've often asked folk but never had an answer too...

Why does no-one invent new musical instruments anymore, I mean pianos, guitars the sax etc.. were all invented gawd knows how long ago, but other than synths why has no-one ever invented a new musical instrument that has caught on like the afore-mentioned... :confused:

(Always puzzled me has that...

That's easy. It's because everything has already been invented. There's nothing more to invent. It's like maths - all maths has been discovered. So i guess the only thing to do now is not to try and invent but find different ways of using what we already have. In Australia there is a Ukulele revival going on so i guess that's a new way to use an instrument that has been around forever. Really quite funny when you think about it because it's not even Australian!

[dentunes]

That's easy. It's because everything has already been invented. There's nothing more to invent. It's like maths - all maths has been discovered. So i guess the only thing to do now is not to try and invent but find different ways of using what we already have. In Australia there is a Ukulele revival going on so i guess that's a new way to use an instrument that has been around forever. Really quite funny when you think about it because it's not even Australian!

So you are at Gold Coasts's Nobby's Beach. The ukulele revival is due to schools replacing recorders with them. I guess they believe more people will play guitar than Brass/Woodwind so have selected Ukulele instead.

Don't I know it, running one of the Allans Music + Billy Hyde stores down here in Melbourne. Ukulele sales at Christmas were just stupid!