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S-video on LCD tv?
« on: June 19, 2007, 02:42:48 PM »

Hey guys, I am considering a flatscreen HDTV LCD with s-video input.  I am going to use an RGB->s-video converter (neobitz) and was just wondering if any of you are using s-video on a flat screen and what type of results you are getting?

I'm confused though about lcd resolutions ... when using a scan doubler I suffered from resolution problems and chopped/blocky graphics.. will I have the same problem when using s-video input instead of vga input?

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Re: S-video on LCD tv?
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2007, 05:21:53 PM »
I've used svideo on an LCd TV, and I can't say I noticed any difference from composite.

The choppy/blocky thing comes from the interlacing, if we're talking about the same thing.
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Re: S-video on LCD tv?
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2007, 07:22:30 PM »
Hi,
In S-Video imput, You will lost a lot of details and it will make more "rounded" pixels...
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Re: S-video on LCD tv?
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2007, 07:27:24 PM »

I guess what I am asking is, on my LCD monitor, the amiga can't display 1024x768, so the monitor interpolates and I end up with a crummy display... when using s-video in is the effect the same?

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Re: S-video on LCD tv?
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2007, 12:51:09 PM »
If you stick to regular PAL/NTSC screen resolutions then an LCDTV will do a better job of scaling than an LCD monitor.

That said it *could* look much worse because S-Video is no where near the sharpness of RGB.

Ask around and see if you can get one with an RGB SCART input. I know this is a mainly european feature, but maybe you can get one these days?? Globalisation and everything.
 

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Re: S-video on LCD tv?
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2007, 02:42:53 PM »
Samsung makes some 17" and 19" LCDs with built-in off-the-shelf video tuner capable of both S-Video and SCART RGB inputs. Basically, it's a LCD monitor with video input, so expect lower performance compared to real LCDTV. I've tested SM932MP model a year ago and it was really dissapointing. I guess you could expect some pixelization due low resolution being poorely scaled up (non native resolution), but that wasn't the major showstopper. Samsung used really bad ADC in order to cut down unit cost and it's very noticable on large amount of "snow" and other crosstalk, noise (both A/V, even on HQ gold-plated cabling).

If you stick on S-Video, I'd recommend using PC with cheap TV-tuner card. Connect your Amiga S-Video into card's input socket and use DSCALER software to remedy a good part of image shortcomings on LCDs. DSCALER has a wide array of postprocessing overlay filters which can mimic natural color anti-aliasing effect found on CRTs where Amiga display was acceptable.

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Re: S-video on LCD tv?
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2007, 03:32:47 PM »
Get a lcd tv with scart, then you can use real rgb.
 

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Re: S-video on LCD tv?
« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2007, 05:47:26 PM »
I use a Merlin RTG card in my A4000 which converts all Video compatible--ie all 15khz Amiga modes--to composite and S-Video. I use the S-Video for native Amiga modes and the Video Toaster. It is a lot better quality than a 1084 monitor but not nearly as good as VGA. Works great with the Toaster as long as you have a Sync Strainer. Since you have an LCD TV designed for video, the compatibility should be good. And if you're not in Europe, finding a scart TV can be difficult. I have seen RGB to HDTV converters around and if your TV has component video inputs, this might be an option and would probably give you better quality.
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