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Re: debian hardinfo benchmarks
« on: May 02, 2012, 05:40:38 PM »
@ Piru

can you please adjust the nice graphs you made to take into account the 2'nd core of the X1000 ;)

i'll let you guys get back to trolling & thanks for starting your own thread this time.
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Re: debian hardinfo benchmarks
« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2012, 09:07:42 PM »
Quote from: Geit;691343
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It seems it is easier to call the presentation of facts trolling, just because one does not like the results.

 Geit

you must not visit this site regularly.
The facts are that the graphs should state that the X1000 results are based on only once core of the X1000's cpu.  For a real world example run a Blender demo on only one cpu and then run it with all the cpu's cores and then you will see real 'facts'
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Re: debian hardinfo benchmarks
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2012, 05:00:04 AM »
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Because this is the truth, so people may know it.


the truth would be nice eh..see post 20.

@ Piru

I know you don't want to troll this way dude so tell 'the truth' on this thread and change those graphs to refelct that the X1000 is only operating on one core.
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Re: debian hardinfo benchmarks
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2012, 11:13:15 PM »
Quote from: jorkany;691449
How many times must you be told: all of the machines in the graph are running on one core. If any of them were running on two cores you might have some kind of point, but they aren't, none of them. Just because you don't understand this doesn't mean Piru is "trolling".

c'mon seriously now you do realize it is very misleading to not clarify on the graphs that the benchmarks in question only utilize ONE CPU core.  

As it stands those numbers are totally useless and Piru knows it unless you want to only compare the Samflex@800 and Apple product.

So let's do a 3D Blender benchmark and only use 1 core of the X1000 and then use the full potential of the CPU and compare the results under Debian hmmm I wonder which result would be better:rolleyes:
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Re: debian hardinfo benchmarks
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2012, 12:24:02 AM »
Quote from: Kesa;691475
Exactly. That's why i don't bother with benchmarks. Benchmarks are like thinktanks. Thinktanks are usually used when certain parties have an agenda and then use stats to prove it. Piru is just sugar coating the numbers in the benchmark to belittle the X1000 for the purpose of promoting Morphos. Sure, numbers don't lie - but people do.

yes we all know Piru's 'agenda' with this thread but I think he is usually fair with his facts and will change the info on the graphs to reflect the truth of the benchmarks.
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Re: debian hardinfo benchmarks
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2012, 01:44:19 AM »
@ Piru

thanks for the link but you forgot to update the graphs in your first post ?

btw, you also forgot to mention on your new thread that Blender on the X1000 doesn't have 3D acceleration yet so those numbers should be better when 3D on Debian PPC arrives
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Re: debian hardinfo benchmarks
« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2012, 02:44:43 PM »
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Maybe I misunderstood the processor part of the Hardinfo benchmark, but isn't it a CPU test (which in today reads: Core) by design? If you want a view of real life effects of single or multiple cores you would use other tests, like indeed the Blender benchmark?



...which won't affect anything at all, the 3D acceleration is purely a GUI thing in Blender.

grandma, for the 10'th time, Hardinfo is NOT MULTI THREADED so knowing that the benchmark figures are misleading..period. :smack:
our friend Piru knows this and chooses to not correct the graphs for some 'strange' reason.

as for Blender results you see the difference that using 1 thread as compared to both right? having 3D acceleration should slightly improve the render times as they definitely won't get worse ;)
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Re: debian hardinfo benchmarks
« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2012, 04:22:41 PM »
Quote from: takemehomegrandma;691588
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Given the above, everything *is already correct*, modifying the data would be tampering with the results! If you want to measure the CPU's SMP capabilities you would have to use other benchmarks, like blender (or numerous others)! It seems you don't understand ..


Who is talking about changing data & tampering??? Again as I stated too many times, a simple line stating that the X1000 results are based on only 1 thread will suffice.
Not noting that simple fact is simply wrong/ misleading/ inaccurate/ trolling.
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Re: debian hardinfo benchmarks
« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2012, 01:26:20 AM »
Quote from: takemehomegrandma;691598
Why? The benchmark (and the results) can only be 1 thread, right?

why does it say so somewhere ? if it was made clear this was the case then there would be no doubt, right?
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Re: debian hardinfo benchmarks
« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2012, 01:34:36 AM »
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I wonder if he would be so obsessive about unnecessary labeling if the X1000 had been a better performer?

I just would like a test to be factual. If the benchmarks used multi threads those graphs would look quite different, but then again, this thread wasnt started to outline facts and truths right :rolleyes:
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Re: debian hardinfo benchmarks
« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2012, 01:35:35 AM »
Quote from: kickstart;691618
@takehomegrandma

You have too many patience with some people.

I must have patience with grandma as I work with elderly people all the time:razz:
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Re: debian hardinfo benchmarks
« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2012, 04:15:42 PM »
Quote from: takemehomegrandma;691872
@klx300r

Are you OK? Your desperate and frantic postings here in this thread and in that Blender benchmark thread shows signs of a mental break-down! You should take it easy...
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well now that you ask things have been stressful lately:knuddel:

I just never thought Piru would stoop that low...I never have said one bad thing about MOS ever so please don't confuse me with others.

 I've tried MOS and think it's a professional and fast OS and if I could have got myself a PegII years ago I would be using it right now! this isnt about blue vs red for me honestly
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