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Offline Ral-Clan

Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
« Reply #90 on: March 18, 2012, 04:01:26 PM »
Thanks for posting the video.  I'm guessing three things from what I see:

- the rendering engine isn't finished yet
- looks like the horizontal to vertical aspect ratio hasn't been fixed yet for 1:1 pixel screens.  This is a problem when using the current Aladdin4d 5.0 on RTG screens.  It was originally programmed for Amiga native chipset mode screens where the pixels weren't square, and when you run it on RTG square pixel screens the vertical dimension of objects in the editor screen is slightly squished.  You can see this most clearly when the shuttle is viewed head-on in the demo video and is "banking" at 45 degrees (although it's possible the aspect was messed up in encoding the video for YouTube).
- It also seemed that rotating the object in the editor (with the keypad) is rather slow compared to on a real Amiga RTG screen (and at least when running under WinUAE).  I would have expected it to rotate a little faster on a modern machine.

Other than that I'm looking forward to the final version.  Despite the software's age it really is nice and is capable of some very nice results.  It may not be Blender or Maya but it is not trying to be, either.  It is still complex enough that you could spend years before you'd use it to it's full potential.
« Last Edit: March 18, 2012, 04:18:47 PM by ral-clan »
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Offline Pyromania

Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
« Reply #91 on: March 18, 2012, 04:17:24 PM »
@ral-clan

The slowness you see is probably because this version is compiled with debug on.
 

Offline rednova

Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
« Reply #92 on: March 18, 2012, 05:46:26 PM »
Dear friends:

I always loved aladdin 4d since the time it was released.
Even though I now use lightwave, I still love aladdin 4d
and enjoy using it for fun.
I look forward to the next version of a4d, and will do
my best to help aladdin succeed.
Thank you Discreet for keeping aladdin alive.
Love !!!

rednova
-mobilis in mobile-
 

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Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
« Reply #93 on: March 18, 2012, 06:08:08 PM »
Hey, trueSpace is still a free download...!
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Offline Pyromania

Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
« Reply #94 on: March 18, 2012, 06:16:53 PM »
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Hey, trueSpace is still a free download...!


It's not free, you have to buy Windows first.
 

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Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
« Reply #95 on: March 18, 2012, 06:52:35 PM »
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Em.. rotating wireframe. Thats your technology preview?


After viewing the video I think maybe I see why it's taking so long...43,000+ unread emails!
 

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Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
« Reply #96 on: March 18, 2012, 07:07:36 PM »
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It's not free, you have to buy Windows first.


Right, and Amiga OS4 is free.

Except, not.
Back away from the EU-SSR!
 

Offline Pyromania

Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
« Reply #97 on: March 19, 2012, 03:09:33 AM »
Please note 2nd video is 80% complete so I am uploading it to YouTube now. This is the original video that was promised a few days ago. Link below should work in a few minutes. Thanx for watching!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LJ9C9w_l0o&feature=colike
« Last Edit: March 19, 2012, 03:17:19 AM by Pyromania »
 

Offline bbond007

Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
« Reply #98 on: March 19, 2012, 05:03:27 AM »
Quote from: Pyromania;684369
Please note 2nd video is 80% complete so I am uploading it to YouTube now. This is the original video that was promised a few days ago. Link below should work in a few minutes. Thanx for watching!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LJ9C9w_l0o&feature=colike


i hope this is not a rickroll
 

Offline takemehomegrandma

Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
« Reply #99 on: March 19, 2012, 07:52:36 AM »
Quote from: Pyromania;684369
Please note 2nd video is 80% complete so I am uploading it to YouTube now. This is the original video that was promised a few days ago. Link below should work in a few minutes. Thanx for watching!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LJ9C9w_l0o&feature=colike

"The video you have requested is not available.
Sorry about that."


Was that regular minutes or "Amiga minutes"...? :p ;)
MorphOS is Amiga done right! :)
 

Offline Pyromania

Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
« Reply #100 on: March 19, 2012, 09:25:57 AM »
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"The video you have requested is not available.
Sorry about that."


Was that regular minutes or "Amiga minutes"...? :p ;)

Seems my video failed to process for some reason, just my luck.


:(


Re-uploading video again.
« Last Edit: March 19, 2012, 09:26:23 AM by Pyromania »
 

Offline haywirepc

Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
« Reply #101 on: March 19, 2012, 12:44:01 PM »
Good work. Blender is free though... Thats a tough price to beat but perhaps if this is ported back to amiga os and morphos it will have some more value there...
 

Offline Ral-Clan

Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
« Reply #102 on: March 19, 2012, 01:47:15 PM »
Quote from: haywirepc;684389
Good work. Blender is free though... Thats a tough price to beat but perhaps if this is ported back to amiga os and morphos it will have some more value there...


Well, Aladdin4d does have the advantage that it's not as complicated as Blender (therefore maybe easier to use / faster learning curve).

It is also much less resource intensive (it can run on a 1mb machine I believe) so smaller systems will benefit that could never run Blender.  Because of this I don't know why DiscreetFX doesn't make the classic Amiga OS version a priority - since Blender won't run on those systems they won't have competition.  In fact, Aladdin4d will be the only 3d modelling application still supported and being developed for Classic Amiga systems - so they would have a bit of a captive (although small) market.

But this market is automatically expanded by the minimig and Natami (if and when the Natami comes out). Also the FFPG (?) Arcade system, the MMC Arcade box thingy and that C64 cartridge thingy that can emulate a classic Amiga....oh....and UAE as well.

Heck, now that I think about it, it makes a LOT of sense to develop a Classic OS version of the upgraded Aladdin4d (probably easier too as the code already exists for the 68K version).  Probably not monetary sense, but I'm not sure any OS development of this software will make anyone rich.
« Last Edit: March 19, 2012, 01:51:48 PM by ral-clan »
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Offline TheBilgeRat

Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
« Reply #103 on: March 19, 2012, 03:41:12 PM »
That video has been removed by the user.
Sorry about that


Was it up, then gone?
 

Offline Boot_WB

Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
« Reply #104 on: March 19, 2012, 06:15:46 PM »
Quote from: Pyromania;684285
A video showing that the application is not vaporware and is up and running is now available.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wk8i5C24WEA

This is just a temporary video until the longer more complete video is done.

Wouldn't it be simpler just to get Deron to screen-capture a video from the current development version for you? He would also, naturally, be aware of which aspects to 'show off' in the video.

Am looking forward to the updated 'new' video. :)
« Last Edit: March 19, 2012, 06:30:56 PM by Boot_WB »
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