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Offline jorkany

Re: X1000 Nemo Rev. 2 Motherboard in Production
« Reply #45 on: March 21, 2011, 02:35:42 PM »
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yes agree with you l feel the same Dont like osx either leaves me cold it works well
But when comes to cinfirguring am lost let alone work how things get installed where or why havent got a clue . need to get sam 460 some time


Well, going OT but since you went there...

Errr, dragging an application into the Application folder...and you don't know how things get installed or where? I have to say, I'm impressed!
 

Offline vidarh

Re: X1000 Nemo Rev. 2 Motherboard in Production
« Reply #46 on: March 21, 2011, 02:41:58 PM »
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Saying that the Rev 2 motherboard is in production because a schematic has been posted is really stretching things at best and misleading at worst.


However saying it's in production because the founder of the company making them says it's in production is not stretching things. Unless you're ready to accuse Trevor about outright lying about that.
 

Offline jorkany

Re: X1000 Nemo Rev. 2 Motherboard in Production
« Reply #47 on: March 21, 2011, 02:53:05 PM »
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However saying it's in production because the founder of the company making them says it's in production is not stretching things. Unless you're ready to accuse Trevor about outright lying about that.


Trevor already admitted this was a run for the 5 sample boards. Yet he still seems to refer to it as a "production run".

Now, unlike the automobile industry I know of no official measurement to qualify a computer board as a "production run" so lying would also be subjective. However the fact is the news item doesn't state that there are only five boards, and we don't even need to get into the whole history of false announcements A-eon has made in the past. So it's buyer beware.
 

Offline the_leander

Re: X1000 Nemo Rev. 2 Motherboard in Production
« Reply #48 on: March 21, 2011, 04:21:15 PM »
Quote from: jorkany;623471
Trevor already admitted this was a run for the 5 sample boards. Yet he still seems to refer to it as a "production run".

Now, unlike the automobile industry I know of no official measurement to qualify a computer board as a "production run" so lying would also be subjective. However the fact is the news item doesn't state that there are only five boards, and we don't even need to get into the whole history of false announcements A-eon has made in the past. So it's buyer beware.


In the computer industry this would likely qualify as "sampling" rather than production, which implies that the board has reached the end point in it's development.

So yes, I'd go with misleading, at least as far as the headline goes.
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Re: X1000 Nemo Rev. 2 Motherboard in Production
« Reply #49 on: March 21, 2011, 06:02:25 PM »
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Trevor already admitted this was a run for the 5 sample boards. Yet he still seems to refer to it as a "production run

Actually Trevor said:-

"With the production of the AmigaOne X1000 Beta test boards in progress,   A-EON Technology is pleased to release details of the final revision 2   Nemo motherboard layout."

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Re: X1000 Nemo Rev. 2 Motherboard in Production
« Reply #50 on: March 21, 2011, 08:33:37 PM »
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Actually Trevor said:-

"With the production of the AmigaOne X1000 Beta test boards in progress,   A-EON Technology is pleased to release details of the final revision 2   Nemo motherboard layout."

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Offline Nickman

Re: X1000 Nemo Rev. 2 Motherboard in Production
« Reply #51 on: March 21, 2011, 08:36:58 PM »
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Actually Trevor said:-

"With the production of the AmigaOne X1000 Beta test boards in progress,   A-EON Technology is pleased to release details of the final revision 2   Nemo motherboard layout."

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http://amigaworld.net/modules/news/article.php?storyid=5858&start=20#78793

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So are the boards in production the "5 off for approval"


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Offline mechy

Re: X1000 Nemo Rev. 2 Motherboard in Production
« Reply #52 on: March 21, 2011, 08:43:57 PM »
Its beyond me how anyone can get excited over any of this? I mean we have a grossly overpriced board,with mediocre specs. Its has a somewhat useless xorro(lol) bus thats is PCI-E..so why not call it PCI-E FFS! pci-e is all good and great if there is drivers for anything.

I suspect its the same clowns that get excited over commodore-usa offerings.

Jack had it right - computers for the masses,not the classes!

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With the production of AmigaOne X1000  Beta test boards in progress, A-EON technology is pleased to release  schematics of the final revision 2 Nemo motherboard layout.  In true  "Amiga tradition" the lead designers have added their signatures to the  Nemo motherboard. We are also pleased to reveal details of the upgraded  XENA subsystem featuring a 500MHz, dual-core XS1-L2 XMOS chip. Please  check out the latest images of the revision 2 Nemo and XENA schematics  in the Media gallery on the A-EON Technology website.


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Offline jorkany

Re: X1000 Nemo Rev. 2 Motherboard in Production
« Reply #53 on: March 21, 2011, 08:53:10 PM »
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Its beyond me how anyone can get excited over any of this? I mean we have a grossly overpriced board,with mediocre specs. Its has a somewhat useless xorro(lol) bus thats is PCI-E..so why not call it PCI-E FFS! pci-e is all good and great if there is drivers for anything.

Physically it is a PCI-E connector, but it is not connected to a PCI-E bus.
 

Offline F1Lupo

Re: X1000 Nemo Rev. 2 Motherboard in Production
« Reply #54 on: March 21, 2011, 08:58:23 PM »
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Its beyond me how anyone can get excited over any of this? I mean we have a grossly overpriced board,with mediocre specs. Its has a somewhat useless xorro(lol) bus thats is PCI-E..so why not call it PCI-E FFS! pci-e is all good and great if there is drivers for anything.

I suspect its the same clowns that get excited over commodore-usa offerings.

wow..thanks for your very insightful post:rolleyes:

FWIW, this 'clown' wants nothing to do with off the shelf PC's with Amiga stickers on them
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Offline Daedalus

Re: X1000 Nemo Rev. 2 Motherboard in Production
« Reply #55 on: March 21, 2011, 09:03:49 PM »
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Jack had it right - computers for the masses,not the classes!


Nowadays that crown is held by Dell - churning out millions of cheap computers on pretty thin margins. Which is fine if you want a cheap PC. But that's not the market the X1000 is aimed at - that ship sailed for the Amiga over 15 years ago. Nowadays it's a tiny market, and producing a custom machine for that market is a very expensive undertaking. But I'm sure you knew that already.
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Offline F1Lupo

Re: X1000 Nemo Rev. 2 Motherboard in Production
« Reply #56 on: March 21, 2011, 09:16:15 PM »
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Nowadays that crown is held by Dell - churning out millions of cheap computers on pretty thin margins. Which is fine if you want a cheap PC. But that's not the market the X1000 is aimed at - that ship sailed for the Amiga over 15 years ago. Nowadays it's a tiny market, and producing a custom machine for that market is a very expensive undertaking. But I'm sure you knew that already.

why bother, we're only engineers & 'clowns' to the all knowing mr. mechy..heck we all know he's capable of engineering/designing a new X1000 computer to run our favourite OS from scratch and sell it to us all for $500 including shipping:roflmao:

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Offline ddniUK

Re: X1000 Nemo Rev. 2 Motherboard in Production
« Reply #57 on: March 21, 2011, 09:16:34 PM »
AmigaOne X1000; What I have seen so far...

Is not:

1. On time
2. Attempting to take over the world
3. Attempting to be mainstream like classic Amigas were.
4. Attempting to be cheap
5. Attempting to please everyone
6. A public consultation exercise
7. A get rich quick scheme for it's creators

It is:

1. A personal passion for Trevor
2. A huge leap forward for AmigaOS systems
3. A bespoke system
4. A very costly endeavour
5. A cheap hobby compared to photography / Golf / SCUBA etc
6. A Rolex not a Timex
7. An easy target for all those who have invested $0.00 & 0hrs 0mins to spout venom and FUD.

I wait patiently, read a lot, listen and save. If it is all that I hope it to be then I will buy. If not then my Wife and I get a trip away :)
« Last Edit: March 22, 2011, 05:29:35 PM by ddniUK »
 

Offline mechy

Re: X1000 Nemo Rev. 2 Motherboard in Production
« Reply #58 on: March 21, 2011, 09:28:04 PM »
Do you understand what the x1000 is? its no more amiga than any pc with amiga stickers or a SAM board for that matter. Its made from off the shelf parts for the most part. it may be they "tied" all of the parts together, but its basically a PPC board with a pci-e expansion bus that is for... hmmm what use was this again? lol its not very fast by todays standards and certainly won't be by the time its released.too bad they didnt team up with natami and dump some resources there.
I give them credit for trying to do something different,but the cost($2000usd~) and the fact it has almost nothing to do with amiga other than supposedly running os4x makes me wonder why.
there's nothing new,special or incredible like the original A1000.I have to wonder if people read the specs on their site.

and your welcome for the insight mr clown :) you really should have those eyes looked at. heh


mech


Quote from: klx300r;623553
wow..thanks for your very insightful post:rolleyes:

FWIW, this 'clown' wants nothing to do with off the shelf PC's with Amiga stickers on them
 

Offline Tempest

Re: X1000 Nemo Rev. 2 Motherboard in Production
« Reply #59 on: March 21, 2011, 09:28:05 PM »
Quote from: ddniUK;623560
AmigaOne X1000; What I have seen so far...

Is not:

1. On time
2. Attempting to take over the world
3. Attempting to be mainstream like classic Amigas were.
4. Attempting to be cheap
5. Attempting to please everyone
6. A public consultation exercise
7. A get rich quick scheme for it's creators

It is:

1. A personal passion for Trevor
2. A huge leap forward for AmigaOS systems
3. A bespoke system
4. A very costly endeavour
5. A cheap hobby compared to photography / Golf / SCUBA etc
6. A Rolex not a Timex
7. An easy target for all those haters who have invested $0.00 & 0hrs 0mins to spout venom and FUD.

I wait patiently, read a lot, listen and save. If it is all that I hope it to be then I will buy. If not then my Wife and I get a trip away :)


I'm getting pretty tired by people who call other people haters just because they have no interest in a computer that's uber expensive and not a real Amiga anyways (no matter how many boingballs it comes with).

It's just a generic PPC computer with boingball stickers and an Amiga-like OS, it has nothing to offer that other computers can't do (unlike the real Amiga when it came out). There are much cheaper and better Amiga-like options available.