Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?

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Will software companies embrace it?
Will the expermental software writers go to it?
Will we have new graphic and sound demos?
Will Fred Fish come back?
How about the rag mags?

>Will software companies embrace it?

No, not until it sells a certain number of units or show some unique hardware implementation.

>Will the expermental software writers go to it?

Perhaps, who knows?

>Will we have new graphic and sound demos?

Don't think so. Most amiga demo coders are 68k assembly true to their bone. Nothing much has been written for OS4 or SAM.

>Will Fred Fish come back?

That would scare me. He is RIP.

>How about the rag mags?

We have Amiga Future. No new magazines will come before Amiga Future proves there is a market.

New hardware won't do it alone. It's also up to the community too, coders and users to make this happen. But also Hyperion has to give out development machines.

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Of course they will. I'm sure Jens Schoenfeld is salivating at this very moment.

Nothing more than what is the case with current OS4 I would suspect.

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OS4 runs 68k system friendly software. Some says MOS does this better. I don't know, but in theory it's supposed to be the same level of compatability.

But anything that tries to tap paula or denise directly will fail.

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JJ, we need wireless. That wired networking is better (robust and faster) isn't an argument as to why we can live without wireless.

Cables are nasty, you trip over them and loose family members in nasy fall accidents :LOL:

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Ethernet ower power works great everywhere in my flat, except where I need it. Too much noice from all the equipment which is hooked up there...

Amiga is far behind, smp, memory protection, security model for multiuser, java, 3d, wifi, usb, firewire... The list could probably be longer kolla. But we need to start somewhere, or the gap will just grow. I think that we'll get smp with X1000. On amiga roundtable Rouge said that smp would be started right after MAP. I think he "lied", I think it's part of MAP.

Amiga needs WPA Wifi. It'll probably take a long long time if we have to wait for MOS or Hyperion to do it.

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Hans isn't an official OS4 radeon driver writer as far as I know. I followed that thread and I read his post as his interpretation of what the XMOS is. Not factual knowledge.

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http://hdrlab.org.nz/ is his webpage.  He's writing the Radeon HD series drivers for AOS 4 as you can see from there.  Do you think he is doing this on an unofficial capacity or something?

I know his site, I've donated to this cause. Hans doesn't have an AmigaOne X1000. If he did this in an official capacity, I would expect him to have a developer machine like Rouge does.

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And who is to say that Acube is not involved in this board

How about A-Cube?

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How about not being a pedant?

Is that some clever snarky remark? :-P

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Okay, maybe I should have worded my post differently. But to speculate that A-Cube is involved, when they've said they're not involved is close to calling them liars. It's not okay in my book unless one can show they've lied in the past or have proof that they lie today.

It's this ingoring certain things that's been said by A-EON and others that annoy me in this ongoing debate on the AmigaOne X1000. It's not you spesifically JJ, it's other people too here.

Like the continuing insistance by many that this is a "tuned" POC/demo board. Why would we not accept A-EONs word that it's a new board designed to their specifications? Why isn't that good enough, to those of you who advocate that it's not, why not find the proof, and stop spreading FUD.

There are things that's strange in this. Why are we not focusing on that? Those issues are getting lost in the noise over less issues IMHO.

Like, why can't we get a clear picture of the case?
Why can't we get a high resolution of the motherboard?
Why does the wesite look like its designed by amateurs from 1994?
Why would the "higher upper ups" keep the CPU secret?
What OS updates follows the new motherboard?
Will there be a Radeon driver?
What other drivers will come with the OS?

Lots of questions still, but instead we pick and pick on things that for the most part have been answered.

Sigh. Perhaps I'm a pedant...

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Allow me to speculate.

Like, why can't we get a clear picture of the case?
A: It doesn't exist (yet), or the haven't recieved a tooling sample, or they're just too busy.

Why can't we get a high resolution of the motherboard?
A: They obvisously don't have their own board in hand or time to shoot pictures.

Why does the wesite look like its designed by amateurs from 1994?
A: Becuase it's a grage shop or small business and when it comes to web design you get what you pay for.

Why would the "higher upper ups" keep the CPU secret?
A: Becuase they don't have an offical supplier yet, or the deal sin't official yet.

What OS updates follows the new motherboard?
A: Slow updates as witnessed by the previous pace of updates.

Will there be a Radeon driver?
A: Eventually I suppose...

What other drivers will come with the OS?
A: Ideally all of them but with previous experience as a reference it may fall on the shoulders of the hobbyist to fill in the gaps for some drivers.

Seems like the community have been heard, or that they maybe have a strategy that pans longer than a day by day basis ;-P

Trevor Dick on whats ahead, just a little less cryptic

Despite all the hooting and hollaring, hemming and hawing... I applaud the efforts of Acube and Hyperion. Market conditions are what they are...

+1, I agree 100% Even though we all wish we could cheer on a stronger machine and a company with more resources. I'm glad A-Cube has competition, and that we have more choice.

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Isn't there some public records we can search? If this is to be sold in the EU or US there gotta be a paper trail? French and German beaurocracy has conquered the world!