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Title: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: SysAdmin on March 13, 2012, 09:45:33 PM
We are in the process of uploading a video to YouTube showing the work in progress of Aladdin 4D 6.0. Once the upload is complete a link will be listed below for you to watch.

To appease the doubters a very rough cut video is now available showing the application running on OS X Lion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wk8i5C24WEA
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: phoenixkonsole on March 13, 2012, 10:45:34 PM
awesome
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: bbond007 on March 14, 2012, 12:01:08 AM
Quote from: Transition;683620
We are in the process of uploading a video to YouTube showing the work in progress of Aladdin 4D 6.0. Once the upload is complete a link will be listed below for you to watch.


same picture converted to HAM6
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: Ral-Clan on March 14, 2012, 12:26:51 AM
Great news.  I was using Aladdin 4d trying to teach myself how to use the wirebend tool just before I read this post.

Please release an updated Classic OS version as well (at least bugfixed).
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: Terminills on March 14, 2012, 01:55:14 PM
Quote from: Transition;683620
We are in the process of uploading a video to YouTube showing the work in progress of Aladdin 4D 6.0. Once the upload is complete a link will be listed below for you to watch.


Are you sending this by way of punchcard?
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: koaftder on March 14, 2012, 04:04:47 PM
Looking forward to seeing how the project is coming along.
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: B00tDisk on March 14, 2012, 04:48:11 PM
Quote from: Terminills;683704
Are you sending this by way of punchcard?


Someone keeps calling and knocking the dialup line off. :D
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: Pyromania on March 14, 2012, 05:06:09 PM
Quote from: B00tDisk;683728
Someone keeps calling and knocking the dialup line off. :D


Sorry for the delay, we shot this video in UltraHD so the uncompressed file size is 100000 Petabytes.
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: B00tDisk on March 14, 2012, 10:30:36 PM
Quote from: Pyromania;683733
Sorry for the delay, we shot this video in UltraHD so the uncompressed file size is 100000 Petabytes.

LOL.  Take your meds!
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: SysAdmin on March 15, 2012, 01:44:45 AM
We have purposefully withheld the video until this thread reaches 1000 views. Unfortunately many think that Aladdin 4D 6.0 is vaporware. While this is understandable to a point it does bother the founder of DiscreetFX since this is a personal project he has put R&D into. Over 3000 man hours have gone into the development of A4D 6.0. Far from being a work of fiction, Aladdin 4D 6.0 is very real beta software.
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: Hans_ on March 15, 2012, 02:00:03 AM
Quote from: Transition;683791
We have purposefully withheld the video until this thread reaches 1000 views. Unfortunately many think that Aladdin 4D 6.0 is vaporware. While this is understandable to a point it does bother the founder of DiscreetFX since this is a personal project he has put R&D into. Over 3000 man hours have gone into the development of A4D 6.0. Far from being a work of fiction, Aladdin 4D 6.0 is very real beta software.


This thread would reach 1000 views a lot quicker if you published the video.

Hans
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: TheBilgeRat on March 15, 2012, 02:02:51 AM
Quote from: Transition;683791
We have purposefully withheld the video until this thread reaches 1000 views. Unfortunately many think that Aladdin 4D 6.0 is vaporware. While this is understandable to a point it does bother the founder of DiscreetFX since this is a personal project he has put R&D into. Over 3000 man hours have gone into the development of A4D 6.0. Far from being a work of fiction, Aladdin 4D 6.0 is very real beta software.

Umm....ok?
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: mbrantley on March 15, 2012, 02:40:57 AM
Quote from: Transition;683791
We have purposefully withheld the video until this thread reaches 1000 views.


How ... peculiar.

You have our attention. Let's see that video.
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: Matt_H on March 15, 2012, 03:17:26 AM
Quote from: Transition;683791
We have purposefully withheld the video until this thread reaches 1000 views. Unfortunately many think that Aladdin 4D 6.0 is vaporware. While this is understandable to a point it does bother the founder of DiscreetFX since this is a personal project he has put R&D into. Over 3000 man hours have gone into the development of A4D 6.0. Far from being a work of fiction, Aladdin 4D 6.0 is very real beta software.


This sort of behavior certainly isn't helping mediate that perception...
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: F1Lupo on March 15, 2012, 03:24:04 AM
sheesh isnt it enough you guys make us wait for 3 years for a simple screen shot & now we need to wait for a youtube video too...why not post the darn thread when you had the video ready to go??? ay caramba:rant:
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: SysAdmin on March 15, 2012, 03:26:49 AM
Quote from: klx300r;683811
sheesh isnt it enough you guys make us wait for 3 years for a simple screen shot on now we need to wait for a youtube video too...why not post the darn thread when you had the video ready to go??? ay caramba:rant:

Careful or the Genie gets it! We would love to show you a screen shot for Amiga OS 4.x when DiscreetFX Labs gets it to us. The Technology Preview Video will be for the OS X Lion version.
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: F1Lupo on March 15, 2012, 03:38:04 AM
Quote from: Transition;683812
Careful or the Genie gets it! We would love to show you a screen shot for Amiga OS 4.x when DiscreetFX Labs gets it to us. The Technology Preview Video will be for the OS X Lion version.

man I can't stand OSX or any Apple so please stop mentioning it and adding salt to my waiting wounds...btw, Genie is on my team cuz she wants to be RELEASED now:lol:
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: koaftder on March 15, 2012, 03:58:06 AM
We're at a 1000 views now, preview please.
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: hooligan on March 15, 2012, 07:00:51 AM
What kind of monkeybusiness (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uj3ATi4xBvI) is this again.. jeez...
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: Manu on March 15, 2012, 07:07:30 AM
Quote from: Transition;683791
We have purposefully withheld the video until this thread reaches 1000 views. Unfortunately many think that Aladdin 4D 6.0 is vaporware. While this is understandable to a point it does bother the founder of DiscreetFX since this is a personal project he has put R&D into. Over 3000 man hours have gone into the development of A4D 6.0. Far from being a work of fiction, Aladdin 4D 6.0 is very real beta software.


Oh my. I just lost my interest in your product.
Not that you care it seems.
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: bitman on March 15, 2012, 08:47:35 AM
Quote from: Transition;683812
The Technology Preview Video will be for the OS X Lion version.

WHAT? Why post Mac news in an Amiga forum? You do everything you can to make me not want to visit this site anymore.
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: koaftder on March 15, 2012, 09:07:21 AM
They're supporting 7 operating systems, cut 'em some slack.
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: Pyromania on March 15, 2012, 10:27:00 AM
Quote from: bitman;683833
WHAT? Why post Mac news in an Amiga forum? You do everything you can to make me not want to visit this site anymore.


bitman sorry about that, I actually wanted the Amiga OS 4.x or MorphOS version done first personally. The programmer wanted to do the Mac version first. One positive effect this should create is to bring in much needed money to develop and expand the Amiga versions. The multiplatform feature of Aladdin 4D 6.0 means no one version is slighted for the others. Well, maybe the Windows version will be a very low priority.

:)
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: SysAdmin on March 15, 2012, 12:39:54 PM
It quickly got to 10,000 views on this news item. So now we are not releasing the video until we reach 100,000 views.
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: Akiko on March 15, 2012, 01:08:20 PM
Absolutely absurd.
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: bitman on March 15, 2012, 01:15:05 PM
Quote from: Transition;683859
It quickly got to 10,000 views on this news item. So now we are not releasing the video until we reach 100,000 views.


This is just as lame as "Aladdin 4D New Name / New Ownership"

You act like complete ******
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: Ral-Clan on March 15, 2012, 01:18:36 PM
Quote from: Transition;683859
It quickly got to 10,000 views on this news item. So now we are not releasing the video until we reach 100,000 views.


This may be a joke (it's hard to tell because it's not really funny).  But whether or not it is, you're succeeding at making your customer base (me included) irritated with your company (and I'm probably one of the few remaining real Aladdin4d users).
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: Pyromania on March 15, 2012, 01:22:47 PM
Quote from: ral-clan;683864
This may be a joke (it's hard to tell because it's not really funny).  But whether or not it is, you're succeeding at making your customer base (me included) irritated with your company (and I'm probably one of the few remaining real Aladdin4d users).


Agreed, please ignore Transition. I'll make sure the video gets posted first thing when I get home from work tonight. DiscreetFX as you may already know is a part time venture.
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: KimmoK on March 15, 2012, 01:33:50 PM
"Once the upload is complete ..."

It must be a huge file...
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: mbrantley on March 15, 2012, 01:57:12 PM
Quote from: Transition;683859
It quickly got to 10,000 views on this news item. So now we are not releasing the video until we reach 100,000 views.


I do not care anymore. I'm not going to watch the video. I'm not in the habit of making negative posts, but jeez...
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: cgutjahr on March 15, 2012, 02:24:03 PM
Quote from: Pyromania;683865
Agreed, please ignore Transition.

It's not just transition, one day after his announcment you were still joking around, it took you another day to actually realise you screwed up. Again.

Here's some honest advice: If you ever want to be taken serious again, shut up until you have a product ready. "Product", as in a real, new *Amiga* product that wasn't available before and "ready" as in "available right now".

No special sales with 'funny' descriptions anymore, no "cloud based internet app stores" with no content, no announcements of announcements.

Have mercy, please.
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: Manu on March 15, 2012, 02:30:13 PM
Quote from: mbrantley;683867
I do not care anymore. I'm not going to watch the video. I'm not in the habit of making negative posts, but jeez...


+1

Couln't care less.
 
I don't know why I'm even in this thread reading it  :)
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: F1Lupo on March 15, 2012, 02:34:33 PM
Quote from: Transition;683859
It quickly got to 10,000 views on this news item. So now we are not releasing the video until we reach 100,000 views.

i see you were the class clown at school:quickdraw:
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: rednova on March 15, 2012, 03:17:13 PM
Ok, I am adding a 'view' to help getting the video-link.

Cheers !!!

Rednova
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: Crom00 on March 15, 2012, 03:46:08 PM
I gotta agree this behavior is strange.
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: rayt on March 15, 2012, 03:47:58 PM
I don't see the point in this anyway..  aren't there ports of blender available for os4/mos? It should be far superior in terms of features plus its free.
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: jorkany on March 15, 2012, 03:49:34 PM
Awesome screenshot of this "epic" thread available here. And you don't need 100,000 views to download it:

http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/904/alladin6threadao.png
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: Gulliver on March 15, 2012, 03:49:52 PM
This Aladdin thing is starting to sound like an Amiga Inc. anouncement...
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: hooligan on March 15, 2012, 03:50:02 PM
I thought Pyromania and Transition are one and same
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: wawrzon on March 15, 2012, 04:01:35 PM
Quote

I thought Pyromania and Transition are one and same

some sort of mental disorder is definitely involved. guess how the nick should really read like?
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: Vlabguy1 on March 15, 2012, 04:17:07 PM
So where is the video???

Rich
ny
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: bitman on March 15, 2012, 04:22:05 PM
Quote from: hooligan;683880
I thought Pyromania and Transition are one and same

Who is also "the pogrammer" of Alladin 4D. Serius case of split personallity.

So that's 3 persons in one.
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: AmigaNG on March 15, 2012, 04:33:38 PM
Quote from: Transition;683859
It quickly got to 10,000 views on this news item. So now we are not releasing the video until we reach 100,000 views.
Weather the video gets posted or not, what little creditability your company and you guys had, with me any way, left on this post. shame because I am thankful for your support in the Amiga community weather its simple just keeping this site online or the competitions you do now again and donations you made to Amiga bounties but this is just getting ridiculous now.
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: koaftder on March 15, 2012, 05:03:52 PM
I don't get all this hate for DiscreetFX. They've given out tons of free stuff over the years and they've been good hosts for the site. All this flack just because they couldn't get a video up on youtube by the time they thought they could? C'mon.
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: warpdesign on March 15, 2012, 05:13:31 PM
Quote
I don't get all this hate for DiscreetFX. They've given out tons of free stuff over the years and they've been good hosts for the site. All this flack just because they couldn't get a video up on youtube by the time they thought they could? C'mon.
The fact he may have done very little good things doesn't give him (and I say "him", there's no such thing as a Company behind it, even though he likes to pretend the contrary) the right to disrespect the users/customers.

It's not like this was the first thing he did like this.

There has been *tons* of jokes like this one:

Quote
No special sales with 'funny' descriptions anymore, no "cloud based internet app stores" with no content, no announcements of announcements.
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: jorkany on March 15, 2012, 05:14:53 PM
Quote from: koaftder;683888
I don't get all this hate for DiscreetFX. They've given out tons of free stuff over the years and they've been good hosts for the site. All this flack just because they couldn't get a video up on youtube by the time they thought they could? C'mon.


Trolling your own website is pretty low. Leave that to the professionals!
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on March 15, 2012, 05:28:56 PM
Still no video?  Wow.  :'(
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: Pyromania on March 15, 2012, 05:57:10 PM
Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;683892
Still no video?  Wow.  :'(


As I already mentioned, I'll finish uploading the video when I get home from work tonight.
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: Pyromania on March 15, 2012, 06:29:45 PM
Quote from: bitman;683885
Who is also "the pogrammer" of Alladin 4D. Serius case of split personallity.

So that's 3 persons in one.


The problem with your theory is I don't know how to program in C so I can't be the programmer of Aladdin 4D, Deron is. I also know a thing or two about computers so can't be the other individual either. Three different people are in fact three different people but feel free to believe what you want.
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: Krischan76 on March 15, 2012, 07:52:55 PM
Jehova! Jehova! Jehova!
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: warpdesign on March 15, 2012, 08:05:31 PM
Quote
As I already mentioned, I'll finish uploading the video when I get home from work tonight.
Next time announce the video when it's uploaded.

Next time, announce an version when Devon has started working on it, and can estimate its release date.

If you can't, then just do not announce anything.

Is that too much too ask ?
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: Hans_ on March 15, 2012, 08:09:03 PM
@Transition and Pyromania

All of this ridiculousness and criticism could have been avoided if you had simply uploaded the video first, and then posted a news article about it.

Hans
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: wawrzon on March 15, 2012, 09:16:01 PM
yeah i really have a hard time with blender particle animation here, need to see at least a video of a package thats more crappy and inconsistent. start even to miss my copy of lightwave9 i left at home..
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: F1Lupo on March 15, 2012, 10:07:27 PM
Quote from: jorkany;683890
Trolling your own website is pretty low. Leave that to the professionals!

no one here (ok maybe TMHTG) is more qualified to make that statement:razz:
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: amigadave on March 16, 2012, 05:46:31 AM
Quote from: Pyromania;683895
As I already mentioned, I'll finish uploading the video when I get home from work tonight.

It is about 20 minutes before 11pm on the West coast of the USA, so I guess Pyromania is working very late tonight, as it would be 2 to 3 hours later where I think he lives and works and he apparently still has not made it home after work to upload the video to this thread.

I was looking forward to seeing it in action.

Maybe he was just too tired when he got home, so I will wait patiently another day with hopes that Pyromania will have some spare time to upload the video here for all of us to see Aladdin6.0 beta running (finally).

So please, Pyromania, make some time tomorrow morning, or some time throughout your day, to upload the video you have promised us, so we can have a look at the "Work In Progress" on Aladdin6.0 beta.
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: B00tDisk on March 16, 2012, 06:15:21 AM
Oh look here it is, he just posted it up!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IX8m_fc-LX0
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: Manu on March 16, 2012, 06:54:30 AM
Quote from: amigadave;683963
So please, Pyromania, make some time tomorrow morning, or some time throughout your day, to upload the video you have promised us, so we can have a look at the "Work In Progress" on Aladdin6.0 beta.

Don't bother guys, it won't get uploaded. They already hate us, besides this thread
hasn't got 100 000 views yet. ;-)
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: Boot_WB on March 16, 2012, 12:19:54 PM
Quote from: Pyromania;683899
The problem with your theory is I don't know how to program in C so I can't be the programmer of Aladdin 4D, Deron is. I also know a thing or two about computers so can't be the other individual either. Three different people are in fact three different people but feel free to believe what you want.


A large part of the cause of this 'problem' is the way DiscreetFX chooses to present itself (as an entity).
There may or may not be more than one person involved.
You constantly refer to DiscreetFX 'labs' (which I presume is either your mom's basement, or a spare bedroom).
You constantly refer to 'upcoming' or 'in development' products yet show no sign of progress.

Hell you can't even upload a single video of a beta running *on a different platform*, let alone on AmigaOS. If you can't even put enough code together to create a window, or compile the program core without a GUI and show it outputting to a terminal, or even show the current compile errors list... what confidence can anyone have that you are actually working on it, let alone competent enough to have a chance of success. Let alone producing some useful software with enhancements and improvements.

Hell, the original was written *from scratch* in less time than you've been porting this version for which you have the source.

There's nothing wrong with creating a corporate persona which gives the impression of being larger/more polished than in reality. Every company does this. However, this only works if you have some professionalism to back it up.
It all tends to fall apart when you consistently have NO PRODUCTS TO SELL over a several year period. Where's your revenue stream? Do you sell that many copies of croutons/millenium/whatever?

Announcing Video Toaster/Flyer boards for sale as if it were a corporate announcement. Please, unless you have a stock of these (ie a wholesale amount for sale) use Ebay or the classified forums (like everyone else who has one or two for sale).

Constant announcements of Aladdin 4D 'in development' - not even a screenshot, not one line of code, no progress announcements, just constant 'we'll have to check with the guys down at the crimelab.' Please.

Then there's the whole farce with A.org site ownership.

And the constant mind-dribbles (Aladeen, this thread, random bollocks in various threads).

I mean, c'mon guys. Either act like a corporate entity (some professionalism, the occasional product, some signs of life), or act like interested individuals and be honest. You seem to have taken Amiga.Inc's behaviour as a template for your own.

I truly hope things change in this regard - you clearly have (financial) resources, you clearly have (vague) good intentions with regard to this platform. Use it wisely, behind the scenes if necessary (see Trevor Dickinsons' way of supporting development).
Please, stop trying to showboat when you have nothing to back it up whatsoever. And please stop subjecting us to this 'humour.' Given the history of failed developments for Amiga in the past, you really should know better.
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: Pyromania on March 16, 2012, 01:00:45 PM
@Boot_WB

Thanks for your feedback , it helps us improve our process.
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: Ral-Clan on March 16, 2012, 01:51:55 PM
I couldn't have said it better than Boot_WB.  He was spot on with his comments.

Quote from: Boot_WB;683985
There may or may not be more than one person involved.
You constantly refer to DiscreetFX 'labs' (which I presume is either your mom's basement, or a spare bedroom).


I always get a chuckle when they talk about "DiscreetFX Labs" too.  I WANT DiscreetFX to succeed - I WANT there to be a new Aladdin4d (which I will pay for).  But no need to put up a false front.  No need to be embarassed that it's just one programmer working on Alladin4d from his house with a bag of Doritos beside the computer.  We know the Amiga is now a small cottage industry.  Deron Kazmaier (Pagestream) admits he works from his home (he has a blog about it).  Jens Schoenfeld doesn't talk like he has a team of lab-coated technicians and a white room.  Even Greg Gorby (original Alladin4d developer) talked about working from his home office by himself (when the Amiga market went bust).  But we all still admire these guys because they have delivered.

Good Luck to DiscreetFX, and please don't take Boot_WB's message as a bashing - use it as constructive criticism.  I wish you all the best!
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: wawrzon on March 16, 2012, 01:57:23 PM
id guess, the upload has stalled at midnight. nothing wrong with it as long as making fool of oneself helps to keep up site traffic.
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: Pyromania on March 16, 2012, 03:04:19 PM
@ral-clan

Well it's good that you admire Deron Kazmaier, he is the programmer of Aladdin 4D 6.0 and is paid for his services. Deron is a great guy but since I can't program in C only he truly knows what is taking so long.
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: Ral-Clan on March 16, 2012, 03:16:45 PM
Quote from: Pyromania;684010
@ral-clan

Well it's good that you admire Deron Kazmaier, he is the programmer of Aladdin 4D 6.0 and is paid for his services. Deron is a great guy but since I can't program in C only he truly knows what is taking so long.


Oh interesting.  At least I know there is a good programmer on the job.

Have you ever though of contacting the other programmer that worked on Aladdin4d under Greg Gorby?  I think his name is Devon Graham.  I have conducted some online searches to try and track him down but he's about as hard to find as Greg Gorby is!
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: koaftder on March 16, 2012, 03:43:31 PM
Quote from: Boot_WB;683985
(see Trevor Dickinsons' way of supporting development).


Hilarious! What is X!? "scientific users take note", "you won't have to wait until summer 2010!"
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: Pyromania on March 16, 2012, 03:54:11 PM
@ral-cal

Thanks for your great suggestions and thank you for being a good customer. I did not know about Devon until you mentioned him so have never attempted to contact him. I have been in contact with Greg Gorby recently and he is very happy that Aladdin 4D development continues.

I'm embarrassed to say work commitments have prevented me from doing the final edits and uploading the video. Rest assured just when you think it will never be available that's when you will see it. I'm off this weekend so no more excuses for me.
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: Pyromania on March 16, 2012, 03:54:12 PM
@ral-cal

Thanks for your great suggestions and thank you for being a good customer. I did not know about Devon until you mentioned him so have never attempted to contact him. I have been in contact with Greg Gorby recently and he is very happy that Aladdin 4D development continues.

I'm embarrassed to say work commitments have prevented me from doing the final edits and uploading the video. Rest assured just when you think it will never be available that's when you will see it. I'm off this weekend so no more excuses for me.
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: jorkany on March 16, 2012, 04:25:29 PM
Quote from: ral-clan;683996
No need to be embarassed that it's just one programmer working on Alladin4d from his house with a bag of Doritos beside the computer.


Taco Bell recently introduced their Dorito shell tacos. Perhaps this will speed things up?
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: Ral-Clan on March 16, 2012, 04:51:05 PM
Quote from: Pyromania;684015
@ral-cal

Thanks for your great suggestions and thank you for being a good customer. I did not know about Devon until you mentioned him so have never attempted to contact him.


Yes, this programmer introduces himself (along with Greg Gorby) at the beginning of the Aladdin4d video tutorial Greg released in the late 1990s.  I *think* his name was Devon Graham, but the video will confirm it.

He was mentioned as being on staff as programmer in the old Aladdin's Lamp newletters and eventually had to be laid off I think (or he moved off to another job) when the Amiga market started to go downhill.

I'm sure Greg can confirm, and maybe he still has contact information for Devon.

EDIT: In the newsletter (3rd quarter issue 4) Devon states that he is the "technical support representative".  Maybe he was also a programmer?
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: wawrzon on March 16, 2012, 05:01:32 PM
Quote

Rest assured just when you think it will never be available that's when you will see it.

if you ask me, that has been already long enough the case. this sentence is obviously internally contradictory. difficult to judge if its smartness or stupidity.
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: Boot_WB on March 16, 2012, 06:40:58 PM
Quote from: koaftder;684014
Hilarious! What is X!? "scientific users take note", "you won't have to wait until summer 2010!"

I was referring to the less publicised donating of machines to key software developers, and trying to fund and organise the porting/coding of much-needed infrastructure/software for the platform. Without making a big song and dance about it.
Y'know, actually doing something constructive for the platform. ;-)

@Pyromania

I am trying to be critical in a constructive way. I respect DiscreetFX's long standing promotion of the Amiga in general, and positive moves made in terms of obtaining and open sourcing software.

I do think that DiscreetFX is (or wants to be) a force for good in the Amiga community, and support that aim. Things seem to have been going a bit wrong in the last couple of years I would say though. More honesty would be welcome, get rid of the public cloak-and-dagger stuff, stop Transition/whatever from making some bad judgement calls in the PR department, and *most importantly* concentrate on getting some stuff out of the door in terms of product (code, not repackaged objects like model collections/gifs/croutons/whatever), or stop promoting yourself on the basis that you're actively developing said software, and promote the stuff you are doing.

It's great if you are fostering development of this software, but why the constant news items? Get a blog like anyone else would for minor stuff until you reach some milestone worthy of announcement. I would love to take DiscreetFX's news items seriously, but I just do not expect to find anything worthy of note when I open the click on the 'read more' button anymore. Sorry. :-(
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: F1Lupo on March 16, 2012, 07:59:46 PM
almost 100,000 views now:eek:
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: jorkany on March 16, 2012, 08:20:40 PM
Quote from: klx300r;684052
almost 100,000 views now:eek:


It's the Acropolis!




...or maybe some database tampering?
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: koaftder on March 16, 2012, 09:33:30 PM
Well, the 100,000 views requirement has been met...
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: Pyromania on March 16, 2012, 10:12:15 PM
Quote from: koaftder;684061
Well, the 100,000 views requirement has been met...


I think I already mentioned work commitments delayed me doing final edits on the video.
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: number6 on March 16, 2012, 10:23:38 PM
Quote from: Pyromania;684065
I think I already mentioned work commitments delayed me doing final edits on the video.



Dunno. But yesterday morning (according to what I read as posting time) you said:

Quote
Agreed, please ignore Transition. I'll make sure the video gets posted first thing when I get home from work tonight.


btw-the ignore Transistion task has been successfully completed by all the members now. Heh.

#6
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: Methuselas on March 16, 2012, 10:26:45 PM
While I am not one for making promises I can't keep, nor am I one for promoting stuff that isn't available, I *AM*, however, one for a good joke every now and again.

I don't understand the venom in this whole thread. It's not like DiscreetFX has a development team the size of say, AutoDesk. Yeah, they dropped the ball, by not uploading the video first, but that's no reason to get upset about it (although, I do think Transition's comments about the 100k hits was a bit too much).

Remember, they made sure we still had Amiga.org and while some people here don't like it, I"m grateful they did. Otherwise, I wouldn't have an amiga site to still go to.
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: Johan Samuelsson on March 17, 2012, 02:41:52 AM
HAHA!!!! The Pyromaniac does it again! Hilarious!!! :D
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: bbond007 on March 17, 2012, 03:38:05 AM
where is Ashton Kutcher? i think we have been punked....
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: bbond007 on March 17, 2012, 05:16:52 AM
Quote from: ral-clan;683636
Great news.  I was using Aladdin 4d trying to teach myself how to use the wirebend tool just before I read this post.

Please release an updated Classic OS version as well (at least bugfixed).


Here is a screenshot from the new and improved classic version:

I was not really supposed to share it due to NDA. I'm probably going to get sued...
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: Pyromania on March 17, 2012, 02:41:20 PM
I'm working on the final editing so the video should be up later this afternoon/evening. I have made everyone wait so long the final product better be DAM good. While you wait please enjoy this classic Aladdin 4D video by its original creator Greg Gorby.

http://www.archive.org/details/Computer_7
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: Ral-Clan on March 17, 2012, 02:55:11 PM
Quote from: Pyromania;684147
I'm working on the final editing so the video should be up later this afternoon/evening. I have made everyone wait so long the final product better be DAM good. While you wait please enjoy this classic Aladdin 4D video by its original creator Greg Gorby.

http://www.archive.org/details/Computer_7


Oooh!  I have been looking for this Computer Chronicles episode for a while!  Thanks for linking to it!
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: Vlabguy1 on March 17, 2012, 03:28:01 PM
Looking forward to the vid. Thanks for posting that link, never seen that before.  Nice to know what my OpalVision board can do :).

Rich
ny
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: Boot_WB on March 17, 2012, 03:48:57 PM
Quote from: bbond007;684113
Here is a screenshot from the new and improved classic version:

I was not really supposed to share it due to NDA. I'm probably going to get sued...


Nice bong. :-) Used to have one just like that.
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: Pyromania on March 18, 2012, 01:48:30 PM
A video showing that the application is not vaporware and is up and running is now available.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wk8i5C24WEA

This is just a temporary video until the longer more complete video is done.
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: hooligan on March 18, 2012, 02:01:29 PM
Quote from: Pyromania;684285
A video showing that the application is not vaporware and is up and running is now available.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wk8i5C24WEA

This is just a temporary video until the longer more complete video is done.


Em.. rotating wireframe. Thats your technology preview?
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: eliyahu on March 18, 2012, 02:03:11 PM
Quote from: Pyromania;684285
A video showing that the application is not vaporware and is up and running is now available.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wk8i5C24WEA

This is just a temporary video until the longer more complete video is done.
nice to see something, even it is only a mac application. out of curiosity, it looks very much like aladdin 4D v5.0.  are there any new features in the next version, or is it mostly just a port to the mac (and later, hopefully, back to amiga NG platforms)?

-- eliyahu
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: Pyromania on March 18, 2012, 02:11:27 PM
@eliyahu

While it is mainly a port a few new features are added like an updated interface with artist drawn toolbar (thank you Mason from Germany) and a few other modern tweaks.
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: eliyahu on March 18, 2012, 02:15:35 PM
Quote from: Pyromania;684289
@eliyahu

While it is mainly a port a few new features are added like an updated interface with artist drawn toolbar (thank you Mason from Germany) and a few other modern tweaks.
ok. that's what i figured. if/when the OS4.x version ships, i'd love to see some benchmarks comparing rendering time of the included sample projects (like the shuttle) on v5.0 and v6.0 to see just how much performance improvement folks could expect. just a suggestion. :)

thanks for posting the video.

-- eliyahu
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: Vlabguy1 on March 18, 2012, 02:18:45 PM
Quote from: Pyromania;684285
A video showing that the application is not vaporware and is up and running is now available.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wk8i5C24WEA

This is just a temporary video until the longer more complete video is done.


A bit confused here, sorry.  Just curious why the dramatic music?

Rich
ny
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: Boot_WB on March 18, 2012, 02:37:15 PM
Quote from: Pyromania;684285
A video showing that the application is not vaporware and is up and running is now available.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wk8i5C24WEA

This is just a temporary video until the longer more complete video is done.


I'm impressed, and look forward to trying this out - I hope you release a limited demo version. Intuitive model editing tools are a tricky beast to capture: allowing access to powerful tools and modelling methods for flexibility/accuracy, but keeping the interface clean and simple enough for the beginner...

The model preview/edit mode (I assume that's what we're seeing) looks good from an initial glance - always good to see an 'outline' display when rotating/panning dynamically to smooth the model movement.
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: Ral-Clan on March 18, 2012, 04:01:26 PM
Thanks for posting the video.  I'm guessing three things from what I see:

- the rendering engine isn't finished yet
- looks like the horizontal to vertical aspect ratio hasn't been fixed yet for 1:1 pixel screens.  This is a problem when using the current Aladdin4d 5.0 on RTG screens.  It was originally programmed for Amiga native chipset mode screens where the pixels weren't square, and when you run it on RTG square pixel screens the vertical dimension of objects in the editor screen is slightly squished.  You can see this most clearly when the shuttle is viewed head-on in the demo video and is "banking" at 45 degrees (although it's possible the aspect was messed up in encoding the video for YouTube).
- It also seemed that rotating the object in the editor (with the keypad) is rather slow compared to on a real Amiga RTG screen (and at least when running under WinUAE).  I would have expected it to rotate a little faster on a modern machine.

Other than that I'm looking forward to the final version.  Despite the software's age it really is nice and is capable of some very nice results.  It may not be Blender or Maya but it is not trying to be, either.  It is still complex enough that you could spend years before you'd use it to it's full potential.
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: Pyromania on March 18, 2012, 04:17:24 PM
@ral-clan

The slowness you see is probably because this version is compiled with debug on.
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: rednova on March 18, 2012, 05:46:26 PM
Dear friends:

I always loved aladdin 4d since the time it was released.
Even though I now use lightwave, I still love aladdin 4d
and enjoy using it for fun.
I look forward to the next version of a4d, and will do
my best to help aladdin succeed.
Thank you Discreet for keeping aladdin alive.
Love !!!

rednova
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: B00tDisk on March 18, 2012, 06:08:08 PM
Hey, trueSpace is still a free download...!
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: Pyromania on March 18, 2012, 06:16:53 PM
Quote from: B00tDisk;684313
Hey, trueSpace is still a free download...!


It's not free, you have to buy Windows first.
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: jorkany on March 18, 2012, 06:52:35 PM
Quote from: hooligan;684286
Em.. rotating wireframe. Thats your technology preview?


After viewing the video I think maybe I see why it's taking so long...43,000+ unread emails!
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: B00tDisk on March 18, 2012, 07:07:36 PM
Quote from: Pyromania;684314
It's not free, you have to buy Windows first.


Right, and Amiga OS4 is free.

Except, not.
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: Pyromania on March 19, 2012, 03:09:33 AM
Please note 2nd video is 80% complete so I am uploading it to YouTube now. This is the original video that was promised a few days ago. Link below should work in a few minutes. Thanx for watching!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LJ9C9w_l0o&feature=colike
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: bbond007 on March 19, 2012, 05:03:27 AM
Quote from: Pyromania;684369
Please note 2nd video is 80% complete so I am uploading it to YouTube now. This is the original video that was promised a few days ago. Link below should work in a few minutes. Thanx for watching!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LJ9C9w_l0o&feature=colike


i hope this is not a rickroll
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: takemehomegrandma on March 19, 2012, 07:52:36 AM
Quote from: Pyromania;684369
Please note 2nd video is 80% complete so I am uploading it to YouTube now. This is the original video that was promised a few days ago. Link below should work in a few minutes. Thanx for watching!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LJ9C9w_l0o&feature=colike

"The video you have requested is not available.
Sorry about that."


Was that regular minutes or "Amiga minutes"...? :p ;)
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: Pyromania on March 19, 2012, 09:25:57 AM
Quote from: takemehomegrandma;684379
"The video you have requested is not available.
Sorry about that."


Was that regular minutes or "Amiga minutes"...? :p ;)

Seems my video failed to process for some reason, just my luck.


:(


Re-uploading video again.
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: haywirepc on March 19, 2012, 12:44:01 PM
Good work. Blender is free though... Thats a tough price to beat but perhaps if this is ported back to amiga os and morphos it will have some more value there...
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: Ral-Clan on March 19, 2012, 01:47:15 PM
Quote from: haywirepc;684389
Good work. Blender is free though... Thats a tough price to beat but perhaps if this is ported back to amiga os and morphos it will have some more value there...


Well, Aladdin4d does have the advantage that it's not as complicated as Blender (therefore maybe easier to use / faster learning curve).

It is also much less resource intensive (it can run on a 1mb machine I believe) so smaller systems will benefit that could never run Blender.  Because of this I don't know why DiscreetFX doesn't make the classic Amiga OS version a priority - since Blender won't run on those systems they won't have competition.  In fact, Aladdin4d will be the only 3d modelling application still supported and being developed for Classic Amiga systems - so they would have a bit of a captive (although small) market.

But this market is automatically expanded by the minimig and Natami (if and when the Natami comes out). Also the FFPG (?) Arcade system, the MMC Arcade box thingy and that C64 cartridge thingy that can emulate a classic Amiga....oh....and UAE as well.

Heck, now that I think about it, it makes a LOT of sense to develop a Classic OS version of the upgraded Aladdin4d (probably easier too as the code already exists for the 68K version).  Probably not monetary sense, but I'm not sure any OS development of this software will make anyone rich.
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: TheBilgeRat on March 19, 2012, 03:41:12 PM
That video has been removed by the user.
Sorry about that


Was it up, then gone?
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: Boot_WB on March 19, 2012, 06:15:46 PM
Quote from: Pyromania;684285
A video showing that the application is not vaporware and is up and running is now available.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wk8i5C24WEA

This is just a temporary video until the longer more complete video is done.

Wouldn't it be simpler just to get Deron to screen-capture a video from the current development version for you? He would also, naturally, be aware of which aspects to 'show off' in the video.

Am looking forward to the updated 'new' video. :)
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: Pyromania on March 20, 2012, 01:18:57 AM
I'm not sure why the second video does not work on YouTube, it just says processing forever. At first I thought it was because it was almost 5 GB in size. But I converted it and got it down to under 300 MB and it still never finishes processing. Gave up on that one and upload it to DiscreetFX server.

It can be found on the link below. This has been tested on OS X Lion, please let me know if it works for other operating systems. I'll be looking for other sites to post the video to as well. Right click on the video and do a save as.

http://www.aladdin4d.com

Vimeo link: https://vimeo.com/38820866

YouTube Link: http://youtu.be/KoHgUt2UPVU
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: bloodline on March 20, 2012, 09:02:24 AM
Quote from: haywirepc;684389
Good work. Blender is free though... Thats a tough price to beat but perhaps if this is ported back to amiga os and morphos it will have some more value there...
Blender is free, but I struggled to get it to do anything sensible... After an hour or so, I gave up and went back to Google Sketchup :(
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: rayt on March 20, 2012, 10:59:30 AM
"This video is only about 80% complete but is being uploaded now because customers requested it."

That's funny. Didn't the customers only request it because a (presumably complete) video was actually the whole point of this news item?

Anyway, seems that you generated a lot more attention this way than you could ever have by just providing the video concurrently with the announcement ;)
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: Duce on March 20, 2012, 11:18:42 AM
This video has been removed by the user.
Sorry about that.

Stop wasting peoples time, please.
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: Pyromania on March 20, 2012, 11:22:08 AM
Quote from: Duce;684471
This video has been removed by the user.
Sorry about that.

Stop wasting peoples time, please.

Vimeo link: https://vimeo.com/38820866

YouTube Link: http://youtu.be/KoHgUt2UPVU
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: Pyromania on March 20, 2012, 11:27:47 AM
Quote from: rayt;684470
"This video is only about 80% complete but is being uploaded now because customers requested it."

That's funny. Didn't the customers only request it because a (presumably complete) video was actually the whole point of this news item?

Anyway, seems that you generated a lot more attention this way than you could ever have by just providing the video concurrently with the announcement ;)


Was it a master plan or just human incompetence? Only you can decide.
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: Pyromania on March 20, 2012, 12:55:51 PM
Can you be the first one to spot the color digital video effect in this video and tell us what famous black & white DVE it's a remake of? Be the first one and win a lifetime of upgrades to Aladdin 4D.
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: wawrzon on March 20, 2012, 01:09:34 PM
Quote from: bloodline;684466
Blender is free, but I struggled to get it to do anything sensible... After an hour or so, I gave up and went back to Google Sketchup :(


having some ideas just now i am struggling with blender too. its completely messed up imho in terms of workflow and logic.. just like late lightwave, which i might fall back to, even though i liked the similarity of the interface and blender being open source.
sketchup doesnt sport particle anim, i assume, it probably barely even has a renderer, does it?
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: wawrzon on March 20, 2012, 01:11:39 PM
Quote from: Pyromania;684476
Can you be the first one to spot the color digital video effect in this video and tell us what famous black & white DVE it's a remake of? Be the first one and win a lifetime of upgrades to Aladdin 4D.


you mean these legs?? i really wondered what that has to tell me. the version on morphos is not the original 68k application by chance?
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: bloodline on March 20, 2012, 01:30:10 PM
Quote from: wawrzon;684477
having some ideas just now i am struggling with blender too. its completely messed up imho in terms of workflow and logic.. just like late lightwave, which i might fall back to, even though i liked the similarity of the interface and blender being open source.
sketchup doesnt sport particle anim, i assume, it probably barely even has a renderer, does it?
Sketch up is little more than a modelling tool, perfect for my needs as I use the models in games... I know it can "render" with texture mapping but it doesn't ray trace... I think it use OpenGL :)
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: cicero790 on March 20, 2012, 02:27:01 PM
I think its great that DFX releases the new Aladdin. Different tools for different purposes.

My silly video was perhaps badly timed in the midst of this release, but it does not count since it was made on a good but not so fun windows pc, on a not very welcoming program.
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: jorkany on March 20, 2012, 02:50:50 PM
Quote from: cicero790;684484
My silly video was perhaps badly timed in the midst of this release, but it does not count since it was made on a good but not so fun windows pc, on a not very welcoming program.


Pretty sure nobody knows what video you're talking about.
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: Pyromania on March 20, 2012, 03:16:31 PM
Attention desktop icon artists/wizards we need new launch icons for Aladdin 4D for Amiga OS 4.1, MorphOS & AROS. Make them a 24 bit Golden Lamp please. This is not for free, we will pay you.
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: cicero790 on March 20, 2012, 03:23:35 PM
@jorkany
No harm done then.
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: Ral-Clan on March 20, 2012, 03:25:37 PM
Quote from: Pyromania;684476
Can you be the first one to spot the color digital video effect in this video and tell us what famous black & white DVE it's a remake of? Be the first one and win a lifetime of upgrades to Aladdin 4D.


I'm guessing it's the legs that are swinging by.....and this looks like it's inspired by a Toaster wipe?
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: Pyromania on March 20, 2012, 06:41:39 PM
You are the winner ral-cal, a lifetime of free Aladdin 4D upgrades for you.
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: vox on March 20, 2012, 06:47:16 PM
Quote from: jorkany;683878
Awesome screenshot of this "epic" thread available here. And you don't need 100,000 views to download it:

http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/904/alladin6threadao.png


Never understood that kind of attention mania for no reason.
And neither the video is impressive or product features are revealed.

Hope it will reach some usable stage at AOS/MOS port anytime.
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: Ral-Clan on March 20, 2012, 06:51:40 PM
Quote from: Pyromania;684502
You are the winner ral-cal, a lifetime of free Aladdin 4D upgrades for you.



Holy Crap!  That's great!
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: pixie on March 20, 2012, 11:12:11 PM
So, out of a 100000 views thread we have 387 views on youtube, nice!!
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: wawrzon on March 21, 2012, 12:59:05 AM
Quote

Originally Posted by Pyromania  
You are the winner ral-cal, a lifetime of free Aladdin 4D upgrades for you.


actually the winner was me:

Quote

Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pyromania  
Can you be the first one to spot the color digital video effect in this video and tell us what famous black & white DVE it's a remake of? Be the first one and win a lifetime of upgrades to Aladdin 4D.
you mean these legs?? i really wondered what that has to tell me. the version on morphos is not the original 68k application by chance?

but you can keep your prize;)
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: Ral-Clan on March 21, 2012, 01:43:14 AM
Quote from: wawrzon;684572
actually the winner was me:

"...you mean these legs??"

but you can keep your prize;)

You got the legs, yes.  But I think you also had to guess the second part: what classic Amiga video effect was it based on.  It was the Video Toaster wipe effect.
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: wawrzon on March 21, 2012, 02:01:48 AM
@ ral-clan:
which is also pretty obvious, even though i couldnt know for sure. never owned vt. but then im not likely going to become a customer so i do not need lifetime updates. have fun!
Title: Re: Aladdin 4D 6.0 Technology Preview Video
Post by: Ral-Clan on March 21, 2012, 02:08:16 AM
Quote from: wawrzon;684579
@ ral-clan:
which is also pretty obvious, even though i couldnt know for sure. never owned vt. but then im not likely going to become a customer so i do not need lifetime updates. have fun!


Yeah I agree it was pretty obvious.  I guess they didn't want to make it too hard.  

Thanks, I'll actually probably use this as I already purchased the original Aladdin4d software.