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Offline pappavis

What do I need to run Morphos?
« on: September 16, 2013, 10:11:50 PM »
I've been absent from Amiga >=11 years. I want to get back into Amiga. What do I need?

For many years i was active on an Amiga A500 & upgraded my AmigaA1200.
In 2005 sold it all.

Question;
1. What do i need (hardware)?
2. Which software?

What I DONT want;
* not emulate old 68k-series.
 * not buying any ole'  Amiga hardware

My assumptions;
 * MorphOS os the current 'AmigaOS' with same look & feel.
 * Morphos runs out of the box on a Apple PowerPC like MacMini G4..?

TIA!
met vriendelijke groet,
pappavis

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Offline nicholas

Re: What do I need to run Morphos?
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2013, 10:22:21 PM »
Supported hardware list is here:

http://morphos.de/hardware
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Offline Borut

Re: What do I need to run Morphos?
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2013, 11:07:18 PM »
Quote from: pappavis;748144
I've been absent from Amiga >=11 years. I want to get back into Amiga. What do I need?

For many years i was active on an Amiga A500 & upgraded my AmigaA1200.
In 2005 sold it all.

Question;
1. What do i need (hardware)?
2. Which software?

What I DONT want;
* not emulate old 68k-series.
 * not buying any ole'  Amiga hardware

My assumptions;
 * MorphOS os the current 'AmigaOS' with same look & feel.
 * Morphos runs out of the box on a Apple PowerPC like MacMini G4..?

TIA!

If You want MorphOS Your question was already answered, otherwise for AmigaOS look here http://www.amigaos.net/content/72/supported-hardware.

68k apps can be emulated on both systems if You want to.

Have fun!
 

Offline nicholas

Re: What do I need to run Morphos?
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2013, 11:55:12 PM »
Quote from: Borut;748151
If You want MorphOS Your question was already answered, otherwise for AmigaOS look here http://www.amigaos.net/content/72/supported-hardware.

68k apps can be emulated on both systems if You want to.

Have fun!


He asked about MorphOS not OS4.

A PowerMac G4 will cost about €40 or less and MorphOS is free to try out. Cheapest OS4 machine will be ten times that price at least plus €150 to try OS4 as there is no demo version.

@pappavis

You might find this excellent thread by takemehomegrandma very useful to find out what Mac hardware to use with MorphOS

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=65055
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Offline XDelusion

Re: What do I need to run Morphos?
« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2013, 12:09:23 AM »
I use a conventional toaster oven myself.
Earth has a lot of things other folks might want... like the whole planet. And maybe these folks would like a few changes made, like more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere and room for their way of life. - William S. Burroughs
 

Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: What do I need to run Morphos?
« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2013, 12:25:55 AM »
Quote from: nicholas;748154
He asked about MorphOS not OS4.


Just to play devil's advocate, he also stated that he's been away from the Amiga scene for 11 years.  Given the way the question was phrased, he might never have heard of OS4.  Although MorphOS does seem to be the less expensive way to achieve a NG "Amiga".  ;)

In either case, welcome back!  :)
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Offline nicholas

Re: What do I need to run Morphos?
« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2013, 12:32:43 AM »
Quote from: XDelusion;748156
I use a conventional toaster oven myself.


http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=745541&postcount=1 ;)
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Offline nicholas

Re: What do I need to run Morphos?
« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2013, 12:35:40 AM »
Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;748157
Just to play devil's advocate, he also stated that he's been away from the Amiga scene for 11 years.  Given the way the question was phrased, he might never have heard of OS4.  Although MorphOS does seem to be the less expensive way to achieve a NG "Amiga".  ;)

In either case, welcome back!  :)


I'll bite. ;)

Would it not be a tad strange for someone away from the scene that long to have heard of MorphOS but not OS4?
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Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: What do I need to run Morphos?
« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2013, 12:50:25 AM »
Could be it was just the first thing that came up on a Google search?  Dunno, guess we'll have to wait for OP to answer the mystery!  ;)

Actually I heard of MorphOS first, but that was back in 2003... I don't even recall, was there such a thing as OS4 at the time?  :p

Edit:  Haha, look what I found in an old thread.  On the Internet nothing ever dies.  ;)  http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=44903
« Last Edit: September 17, 2013, 12:55:03 AM by Oldsmobile_Mike »
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Offline XDelusion

Re: What do I need to run Morphos?
« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2013, 01:06:57 AM »
Earth has a lot of things other folks might want... like the whole planet. And maybe these folks would like a few changes made, like more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere and room for their way of life. - William S. Burroughs
 

Offline fishy_fiz

Re: What do I need to run Morphos?
« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2013, 03:10:20 AM »
There's also AROS, which also runs on standard pc hardware (as well as 680x0, ppc, arm, x86-64), and is free (MOS licensse is roughly 100 euro, give or take a little depending on which hardware you run it on. License is charged per machine, although a transfer is sometimes possible if you can prove youre transferring to a different machine for a reason). You can of course try MOS for free (for 1/2 hour, then system is slowed down drastically) if you have hardware that's supported.

All 3 options (MOS, OS4, AROS) have their pros and cons. The differences between all 3 are smaller than most people here will try to convince you of.
Also, I appologize in advance for the almost inevitable reflux action most people here will demonstrate when they get the smell of a potential new user of their chosen amiga clone system.
Near as I can tell this is where I write something under the guise of being innocuous, but really its a pot shot at another persons/peoples choice of Amiga based systems. Unfortunately only I cant see how transparent and petty it makes me look.
 

Offline Iggy

Re: What do I need to run Morphos?
« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2013, 03:51:14 AM »
Welcome back.
Ambient, MorphOS' interface, may surprise you as it actually looks modern.
But the controls are pure AmigaOS.

And we've got a really nice browser bundled with the OS.

Give MorphOS a spin and see what you think.
Except for the minimal cost of the hardware, trying it is free.
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Offline mmace

Re: What do I need to run Morphos?
« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2013, 08:44:28 AM »
I came back to "Amiga" this weekend after 13 years away, and after a lot of research I went the way of MorphOS due to cost and support.
After a lot of digging I found that I needed 64Mb video RAM, which if you're getting a Mac Mini it HAS to be the 1.5Ghz one, which was silently upgraded by Apple from the 1.42Ghz ones, so the box and everything about it says 1.42Ghz, until you go into "About my Mac" in OSX.

Another pitfall, when people put them on eBay, it forces them to put in the model number and the majority eBay gets the automated description wrong and buts that it has 64Mb video RAM. I spent 2 weeks constantly checking eBay and emailing the users and asking them to check in "About my Mac", any that came back with 1.5Ghz I put a bid on, early last week I got one for £110 delivered.
I chose Mac Mini due to the low noise level and power consumption over the big Power Mac towers as it sits in the lounge at home. You can get a PowerMac G4 for £50 or under
 

Offline Colani1200

Re: What do I need to run Morphos?
« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2013, 09:03:25 AM »
Quote from: mmace;748211

After a lot of digging I found that I needed 64Mb video RAM


No. 64 MB Video RAM are better, but not mandatory for MorphOS.
 

Offline mmace

Re: What do I need to run Morphos?
« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2013, 09:32:38 AM »
Quote from: Colani1200;748212
No. 64 MB Video RAM are better, but not mandatory for MorphOS.
"I" needed 64Mb