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Offline maffoo

MorphOS and wireless?
« on: March 03, 2011, 09:37:17 PM »
Hi

I've got a Mac Mini G4 with Airport, and I've installed MorphOS 2.7. It isn't convenient to have it connected directly to my router so I've been trying to get it working with wireless. I've tried a couple of old wireless routers but I can't get them to act as bridges without downgrading the security to WEP, so I've given up on that idea :(

I found a post on here from December that said that Airport support isn't working yet so I'm assuming that's a no-go for the time being. Does anyone know of any compatible USB adapters that I could use? I have a couple of cheap USB adapters around, but I can't get them to work with MorphOS.  Failing that, any suggestions for a cheap wireless bridge that works with WPA/WPA2?

Thanks in advance.

Matthew
 

Offline kolla

Re: MorphOS and wireless?
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2011, 09:46:43 PM »
MorphOS has no wireless support at all.
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Offline maffoo

Re: MorphOS and wireless?
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2011, 09:49:24 PM »
Quote from: kolla;619385
MorphOS has no wireless support at all.




That's a pain :( Looks like I'll have to find some sort of wireless bridge after all.
 

Offline _ThEcRoW

Re: MorphOS and wireless?
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2011, 09:54:24 PM »
You can have a normal ap acting as ap client and getting the internet connection from a wifi router. I had it this way and performed quite well. As for the security issues, you can use whatever security encryption you want, it's only for the ap-router connection, the mini would get the connection via ethernet.

You don't have to set a bridge, only need your router set up normally and wifi active, then, with the ap(that it would be to the mac mini) configure it as ap client, and from there, connect an ethernet cable to the mini. Essentially the ap is acting as a wifi card, the difference is that instead of using a usb port, or the internal airport, you are using your ethernet port.
I had this until my ap died from some strange reason. Now i'm using a pc with debian acting as router, but soon will get another ap to get it directly the connection as it had originally.
Cheers!
« Last Edit: March 03, 2011, 10:00:19 PM by _ThEcRoW »
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Offline nicholas

Re: MorphOS and wireless?
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2011, 10:00:25 PM »
Quote from: kolla;619385
MorphOS has no wireless support at all.


That's not true, IIRC the 68k prism2.device works fine with PCI devices.

Not that it's any help on a Mini.
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Offline Karlos

Re: MorphOS and wireless?
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2011, 10:04:40 PM »
Wifi is for phones only. Real men use cat-5 cable routed all around their abode.
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Offline maffoo

Re: MorphOS and wireless?
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2011, 10:13:54 PM »
Quote from: _ThEcRoW;619389
You can have a normal ap acting as ap client and getting the internet connection from a wifi router. I had it this way and performed quite well. As for the security issues, you can use whatever security encryption you want, it's only for the ap-router connection, the mini would get the connection via ethernet.

You don't have to set a bridge, only need your router set up normally and wifi active, then, with the ap(that it would be to the mac mini) configure it as ap client, and from there, connect an ethernet cable to the mini. Essentially the ap is acting as a wifi card, the difference is that instead of using a usb port, or the internal airport, you are using your ethernet port.
I had this until my ap died from some strange reason. Now i'm using a pc with debian acting as router, but soon will get another ap to get it directly the connection as it had originally.
Cheers!


That's how I thought it would work, so I tried a couple of routers which can be set up as access points. However, while they will happily connect to my ADSL modem/router if I disable wireless security or set it to WEP they won't connect if I try to use WPA (the best my router supports.) I'm a bit wary of using WEP as I gather that it isn't that secure, and while I don't think me neighbours will try to use my connection I would rather not take the chance :)
 

Offline ncafferkey

Re: MorphOS and wireless?
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2011, 10:43:20 PM »
I'd highly recommend an Edimax BR-6204Wg for this job (I have two). BTW, "access point" is the wrong terminology for the mode you need. An access point is essentially a cut-down wireless router, whereas you need a router acting in client mode.
 

Offline CSixx

Re: MorphOS and wireless?
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2011, 10:54:08 PM »
 

Offline _ThEcRoW

Re: MorphOS and wireless?
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2011, 11:02:41 PM »
@maffoo

The ap i used was a normal one, and it can connect via wep/wpa etc.... It's strange that your ap won't connect to a router via wpa. Is that ap very old?. I used a plain dlink and it allowed connections on the various ciphers wifi actually has.
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Offline _ThEcRoW

Re: MorphOS and wireless?
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2011, 11:05:27 PM »
@ncafferkey

That's why i specified to connect it to the router using "ap client" mode. It's a common method of linking via wifi when there is no possibility of internal wifi available. It's used by people on many consoles to connect it to their routers without spending a lot more in the "official" wifi dongle, for example in x360.
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Offline bbond007

Re: MorphOS and wireless?
« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2011, 11:46:16 PM »
Quote from: CSixx;619415
I have one of these, and it works great.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833122373


That looks like a nice product.

I know I paid about the same for a linksys wrt54Gl version and loaded dd-wrt on it. It can operate as a client bridge (among other things) and gives you the added advantage of having 4 RJ45 ports.
 

Offline maffoo

Re: MorphOS and wireless?
« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2011, 07:55:27 PM »
Quote from: _ThEcRoW;619419
@maffoo

The ap i used was a normal one, and it can connect via wep/wpa etc.... It's strange that your ap won't connect to a router via wpa. Is that ap very old?. I used a plain dlink and it allowed connections on the various ciphers wifi actually has.


The ones I've tried are quite old, the first I tried is Dynamode and when that didn't work I got a cheap Belkin off Ebay. I actually got the Belkin because I wanted to try using the dd-wrt firmware, and the model number (F5D7231C) is on the list of compatible routers, but when it arrived it turned out to be about the only revision that isn't supported :( I should also mention that my modem/router is also quite old, I had a newer one at one point that was provided by my ISP but it died so I went back to the reliable old one :)

Would something like this work?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Vonets-VAP11G-Wifi-Bridge-Dreambox-PS3-XBox-Wireless-/330537262203?pt=UK_Computing_Networking_SM&hash=item4cf58e5c7b

It's reasonably cheap and says it supports AP Client mode, which sounds like what I need!

Thanks for all the help.

Matthew
 

Offline save2600

Re: MorphOS and wireless?
« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2011, 06:49:46 PM »
Quote from: maffoo;619386
That's a pain :( Looks like I'll have to find some sort of wireless bridge after all.

On a MacMini/MoprhOS system, I'm typing this from my wireless keyboard/mouse and sending wirelessly via a Netgear WNCE2001 Wireless Internet Adapter. Another $60 invested in this rig, but damn is it sweet! I'm sure there are cheaper solutions out there, but this thing is nice and tiny. As small as or smaller, than a radar detector (haven't seen what one of those things look like since the 90's). The adapter recognized my password protected wireless router and hooks via the ethernet port. Super speedy too. Here's a pic of my MorphOS setup:

http://www.amiga.org/gallery/index.php?n=3460

@CSixx...LOL! I just clicked on your Newegg link and yep, that's exactly what I bought at Best Buy today. Thought I'd take a chance on it and see if it worked. This thing is great. I love how small and portable it is. Can hook it to my Blu-Ray player now or my Airportless PowerMac I'm using as a music only "server" next to my drum kit for updates, iTunes authorizations, etc.

While MorphOS doesn't support Airport and Poseidon doesn't support any of these WiFi USB sticks,  at least there's wireless workaround solutions to be had!
« Last Edit: March 22, 2011, 07:30:09 PM by save2600 »
 

Offline toca180

Re: MorphOS and wireless?
« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2011, 08:25:38 PM »
I just got a Netgear WNCE2001 Wireless Internet Adapter. Great piece of kit. You can even connect it to a switch and it will make the switch wireless. :afro:

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